What will you spend on fuel in 2008?

[mrsrobinson]

No no no... I didn't explain well enough. So if you spend 300 gallons of fuel on a Sunday afternoon fishing with the guys and then spend 700 gallons cruising to Manteo, NC with the wife few weeks later, you can say "Damn honey..... It took 1000 gallons of fuel to spend the weekend together but it's worth it... I love you..."

As an extension to this man-law, it also allows you to then explain to the wife how fishing saves money so she doesn't have to pay those high prices at the super market. Kinda that "us men were out risking our lives to put food on the table" thing.

As a good buddy of mine always says "Yeah, let me know how that works out for you".

 

[fc3]

If there's rioting, here's my suggestion:

Shoot the politicians first. And the bankers who got us into this sub-prime currency devaluing mess while they paid themselves billions in bonuses for being so darned smart.

Best regards,
Frank

 

[fc3]

As an extension to this man-law, it also allows you to then explain to the wife how fishing saves money so she doesn't have to pay those high prices at the super market. Kinda that "us men were out risking our lives to put food on the table" thing.

Oh I get it. It's like when my wife comes home after spending a grand on clothes and says, "I had a 20% off coupon, Honey! I actually saved money because I know how hard you work."

Best regards,
Frank

 

[desperado]

Oh I get it. It's like when my wife comes home after spending a grand on clothes and says, "I had a 20% off coupon, Honey! I actually saved money because I know how hard you work."

Best regards,
Frank

My wife likes to tell me how many points she got for us on our American Express :grin::grin::grin:

 

[comsnark]

Heh. . .well. . .it has taken 9 pages to get to "politics". But it is sort of inevitable, eh?

"There is no shortage of people who think that rise in oil prices from $30 to $110+/barrel over a few years is perfectly justifiable"

"considering the price of water at football stadiums and the price of oil in 1967."

Does this have any intelligent meaning?

Perhaps I could have worded that clearer. I have read a number of "right leaning" commentator types who think there is nothing wrong with the price of oil or the price of gasoline. The arguments put forth fall into a few categories;

1) Law of supply and demand: If the price goes up, people won't buy it and the price will come back down.

2) People seem happy to pay $2.00 a pint for bottled water at all manners of sporting and public events. Gasoline at $3.00 per Gallon is cheap by comparison

3) The price of oil in *inflation adjusted dollars* is not high. Compared to pricing in earlier times, the price of oil and gas has not kept up with inflation.

I don't agree with any of these statements; and there are flaws you can drive a 48DB through with plenty of clearance on all sides. I am just presenting what I have heard.

And there are no shortage of people on the other end of the spectrum that think fuel costs to the consumer need to double in order to further promote conservation.

I would imagine these are the same sort who thought of lending money to people to buy homes who could not afford to pay the money back when the interest rates soared.

I have read a number of "left leaning" commentators suggest that the only way to prevent global warming is to limit consumption; and the best way to limit consumption would be impose a huge tax on gasoline so that people would naturally conserve.

I don't particular agree with this view either. But I have heard it said more than twice.

No. . .I don't see riots anytime soon."

Considering gas theft has already begun and truckers are claiming to be losing .20 a mile , I say it is the beginning of a very real problem. Imagine the truckers shutting their trucks off and food, fuel and other essentials being restricted from distribution. All hell will break loose. No milk, no diapers, no gas, there will be unrest.

This can be very real. Unless you live in "Green Acres" of course.

The reason I don't see riots any time soon is that since only a few months ago I was reading commentators on BOTH sides of the political spectrum being comfortable with high fuel prices; albiet for different reasons.

Of course, what all these collective Yahoos fail to realize is that a huge economic disruption will result. Truckers will NOT shut off the trucks. But they will raise there prices to cover costs. These prices will get passed onto the consumer. But consumer *consumption* of all goods will go down as a result. . . and that ripples back through the retails, to the truckers, to the manufacturers . . .and back to people earning a living. Overall shipping will go down. And the economy goes into recession.

Nobody in all of this is considering the big picture.

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If there's rioting, here's my suggestion:

Shoot the politicians first. And the bankers who got us into this sub-prime currency devaluing mess while they paid themselves billions in bonuses for being so darned smart.

Politicians are a real problem. I don't see fiscal responsibility being espoused by ANY current canditates for ANY office. (ok. . that is Hyperbole, but in *general* it is true). Nobody seems to recognize that

1) Running huge debts is inflationary. Printing money for "tax bailouts"; "bank bailouts", "wars", and "pork". is inflationary.

2) Inflation hurts the economy directly.

3) Inflation deflates the dollar relative to other currencies, which automatically increases the costs of foreign goods (such as oil). That hurts the economy indirectly.

Bankers are another problem. But they are just the current "catalyst" that has driven this downturn. While I don't condone what they have done and I think plenty belong in court or in jail. . .they are not *directly* raising the cost of gasoline or bread.

 

[fc3]

If there's rioting, here's my suggestion:

Shoot the politicians first. And the bankers who got us into this sub-prime currency devaluing mess while they paid themselves billions in bonuses for being so darned smart.

Best regards,
Frank

Politicians are a real problem. I don't see fiscal responsibility being espoused by ANY current canditates for ANY office. (ok. . that is Hyperbole, but in *general* it is true). Nobody seems to recognize that

1) Running huge debts is inflationary. Printing money for "tax bailouts"; "bank bailouts", "wars", and "pork". is inflationary.

2) Inflation hurts the economy directly.

3) Inflation deflates the dollar relative to other currencies, which automatically increases the costs of foreign goods (such as oil). That hurts the economy indirectly.

Bankers are another problem. But they are just the current "catalyst" that has driven this downturn. While I don't condone what they have done and I think plenty belong in court or in jail. . .they are not *directly* raising the cost of gasoline or bread.

I'm not really getting into politics. I just like the aesthetic image of politicians scurrying like rats before they get their just deserts. And since I've spent more than my fair share of time with those myopic finance experts, it's only fair that they complete their emulation of rats.

To any sewer rats whom I have offended by the above comparison, tough! You're a rat, deal with it.

Best regards,
Frank

 

[Woody]

Heh. . .well. . .it has taken 9 pages to get to "politics". But it is sort of inevitable, eh?



Perhaps I could have worded that clearer. I have read a number of "right leaning" commentator types who think there is nothing wrong with the price of oil or the price of gasoline. The arguments put forth fall into a few categories;

1) Law of supply and demand: If the price goes up, people won't buy it and the price will come back down.

2) People seem happy to pay $2.00 a pint for bottled water at all manners of sporting and public events. Gasoline at $3.00 per Gallon is cheap by comparison

3) The price of oil in *inflation adjusted dollars* is not high. Compared to pricing in earlier times, the price of oil and gas has not kept up with inflation.

I don't agree with any of these statements; and there are flaws you can drive a 48DB through with plenty of clearance on all sides. I am just presenting what I have heard.



I have read a number of "left leaning" commentators suggest that the only way to prevent global warming is to limit consumption; and the best way to limit consumption would be impose a huge tax on gasoline so that people would naturally conserve.

I don't particular agree with this view either. But I have heard it said more than twice.



The reason I don't see riots any time soon is that since only a few months ago I was reading commentators on BOTH sides of the political spectrum being comfortable with high fuel prices; albiet for different reasons.

Of course, what all these collective Yahoos fail to realize is that a huge economic disruption will result. Truckers will NOT shut off the trucks. But they will raise there prices to cover costs. These prices will get passed onto the consumer. But consumer *consumption* of all goods will go down as a result. . . and that ripples back through the retails, to the truckers, to the manufacturers . . .and back to people earning a living. Overall shipping will go down. And the economy goes into recession.

Nobody in all of this is considering the big picture.

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Politicians are a real problem. I don't see fiscal responsibility being espoused by ANY current canditates for ANY office. (ok. . that is Hyperbole, but in *general* it is true). Nobody seems to recognize that

1) Running huge debts is inflationary. Printing money for "tax bailouts"; "bank bailouts", "wars", and "pork". is inflationary.

2) Inflation hurts the economy directly.

3) Inflation deflates the dollar relative to other currencies, which automatically increases the costs of foreign goods (such as oil). That hurts the economy indirectly.

Bankers are another problem. But they are just the current "catalyst" that has driven this downturn. While I don't condone what they have done and I think plenty belong in court or in jail. . .they are not *directly* raising the cost of gasoline or bread.

You still can get gas for $3/gal in NJ? Hey, I was at the grocery store the other day and found good oranges...2 for $1.39. Maybe we can work something out and both save money.

 

[comsnark]

No. . it was $3 when everyone was saying "this ain't too bad". I am not hearing that so much any more after watching prices go up 2 cents per day every for a month.

And BP Shell just announced record profits. . .significantly higher than forcaster predictions.

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And I think I agree with Frank in general: the bankers and politicians are pretty much cut from the same mangey cloth.

 

[Four Suns]

What the heck is this board coming to.. Comsnark agrees with Frank C. and Bill Kearny makes a post without calling anyone a name... Next thing you know SBW1 will praise Sea Ray, Frank W. will buy a gas 400 DB, and Todd will stop posting pictures....

I'm going to *anotherforum.com*

*edit by First born*

 

[Boatingfool]

Voted in the 10-15 range (hopefully I'm not kidding myself!). Its hard but I've been boating @ 9/10knots for half every trip so far this year to help keep things reasonable - thank god for autopilot!

Last year I would have said this is nuts, but now I'd jump for joy if they'd find a way to keep Diesel $3.89/gal...lol! :grin:

This past weekend in Annapolis they wanted 4.18/gal at one marina and $4.39 at another marina :smt119

 

[fc3]

What the heck is this board coming to.. Comsnark agrees with Frank C. and Bill Kearny makes a post without calling anyone a name... Next thing you know SBW1 will praise Sea Ray, Frank W. will buy a gas 400 DB, and Todd will stop posting pictures....

I'm going to *anotherforum.com*

*edit by First born*

And Gary and.. well everyone will kiss and makeup.

Best regards,
Frank C.

or probably not.

But if you get bored, there's always Boat/US's forum. Bring the big guns.

 

[boltman]

We will spend about 5000.00 in gas or more... But we told all the kids adult kids) that we're cutting Christmas spending in Half. They are adults now Christmas is over for them and they have Kids now too, come on.... I need boat feul and boat payments to make. And their asking for like Washers and Dryers for Christmas..... I told them GET OVER IT..... so feul takes care of this now....

 

[fc3]

We will spend about 5000.00 in gas or more... But we told all the kids adult kids) that we're cutting Christmas spending in Half. They are adults now Christmas is over for them and they have Kids now too, come on.... I need boat feul and boat payments to make. And their asking for like Washers and Dryers for Christmas..... I told them GET OVER IT..... so feul takes care of this now....

You came to the right place!

• Washer
• Dryer

$12.24! Plenty of money left for fuel.

Best regards,
Frank C

 

[Nehalennia]

What the heck is this board coming to.. Comsnark agrees with Frank C. and Bill Kearny makes a post without calling anyone a name... Next thing you know SBW1 will praise Sea Ray, Frank W. will buy a gas 400 DB, and Todd will stop posting pictures....

I'm going to *anotherforum.com*

*edit by First born*

Yeah but you said you weren't going to post again until Wesley or Jim fixed the bowrail (or was it the Gunrail) on the boat above in the Upper Right Corner.
I'm just getting the camera rolling again for the new season....on our camera

+ I meet up with "Go Aweigh2452" Doug and his Admiral Lea who seems to enjoy talking pictures of things behind me.

 

[JV II]

I'll be getting a "fuel subsidy" check from the US government to ease my fuel expense in the environment of high prices. My check will be for $1,500. That gives me a "rebate" of $1.00 per gallon (assuming I use 1500 gallons this year), so I'll only be paying ~$3.00 a gallon for gas this season.

 

[STIHLBOLTS]

Nothing like a paid off boat to make gas prices just a little lighter.:smt038:grin::grin::grin:

I don't have a problem with the gas prices, I have a problem with finding the time to get the boat out!!! :smt089 It does not look like I am going to get to splash till memorial weekend. :wow: :smt089:smt089

I just wish I could spend some money on fuel. :smt043

Gary this is a great poll. :thumbsup:

 

[Mick & Denise]

Nothing like a paid off boat to make gas prices just a little lighter.:smt038:grin::grin::grin:

I don't have a problem with the gas prices, I have a problem with finding the time to get the boat out!!! :smt089 It does not look like I am going to get to splash till memorial weekend. :wow: :smt089:smt089

I just wish I could spend some money on fuel. :smt043

Gary this is a great poll. :thumbsup:

I am almost sure you can spend some money on fuel. Please send the fuel money to: Mick & Denise, Eastern, NC. Thanks in advance!!!!

 

[xravenx]

Nothing like a paid off boat to make gas prices just a little lighter.:smt038:grin::grin::grin:

Yea, I got that same problem..........LOL

I don't care how much gas I use, I whip out the charge card and that's that, I never see the bills as my accountant wife takes care of all that stuff............

John

 

[fc3]

Nothing like a paid off boat to make gas prices just a little lighter.:smt038:grin::grin::grin:

I don't have a problem with the gas prices, I have a problem with finding the time to get the boat out!!! :smt089 It does not look like I am going to get to splash till memorial weekend. :wow: :smt089:smt089

I just wish I could spend some money on fuel. :smt043

Gary this is a great poll. :thumbsup:

How much fuel can a 22' with a 305 burn? 8 gallons/hr?

 

[Stray Cat]

No matter what the cost, I'm still going to have that stupid grin :grin: on my face when I push the throttles forward.