2000 410 Sundnacer

Not arguing the fact that there are nice saltwater boats out there..... Just not often and even the "Bristol" boats have some differences from a "Bristol" freshwater boat. I see a lot of them and I have family of the Ft. Lauderdale area who own several boats of every size including a 56 Pershing.

My point is, you wont see ANY of the following on freshwater boats:

-Rust on any stainless steel
-Barnacle Residue
-Green Sea Strainers or even a hint of it unless the owner cleaned it with something harsh
-Corrosion under paint or paint bubbling like on arches, windshield frames, antenna mounts, bow rails, etc.
-Anchor chains / windlass's
The list keeps growing.

By all means, I would consider the right saltwater boat for myself but it would have to be one hell of a deal in pristine condition for me to go that route. I am too picky of a person to even have one of the above on my personal boat and there is cost to remedy all of the above. Does that compute into savings on buying a boat down south? Maybe.

Everybody has varying degrees of what they are willing to accept or not on their personal boat, thats why they make them in all styles and sizes in every area possible.

Whether right or wrong, bringing a salty up to the great lakes will always have that stigma of being a saltwater boat and your pool of buyers shrinks to maybe 1 in 10 at best. Within the first 5 questions I get daily on boats there will be "has this always been a freshwater boat?" I can't make this stuff up!
 
Bryank said:
So I put in an offer (accepted) on a 2003 410 Sundancer and flew down with my wife to Florida to view it today (we are from Michigan). Survey and engine inspection scheduled for tomorrow.

Unfortunately, I couldn't get past the cockpit. The boat was trashed. I figured there would be some issues with a salt water boat, but this thing was in a complete state of neglect. I can't understand how people don't take care of their things. The kicker is that it was docked behind a $3 million dollar home. How much is it to ask to hire someone to maintain it if you are in a situation where you can't do it yourself? The broker really wasted my time and money on this one. The silver lining is that instead of a survey and sea trial tomorrow, my wife and I get a day on the beach!http://
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Sorry to hear that Bryan...keep persevering...you'll find your boat soon!
 
Carver370 said:
Not arguing the fact that there are nice saltwater boats out there..... Just not often and even the "Bristol" boats have some differences from a "Bristol" freshwater boat. I see a lot of them and I have family of the Ft. Lauderdale area who own several boats of every size including a 56 Pershing.

My point is, you wont see ANY of the following on freshwater boats:

-Rust on any stainless steel
-Barnacle Residue
-Green Sea Strainers or even a hint of it unless the owner cleaned it with something harsh
-Corrosion under paint or paint bubbling like on arches, windshield frames, antenna mounts, bow rails, etc.
-Anchor chains / windlass's
The list keeps growing.

By all means, I would consider the right saltwater boat for myself but it would have to be one hell of a deal in pristine condition for me to go that route. I am too picky of a person to even have one of the above on my personal boat and there is cost to remedy all of the above. Does that compute into savings on buying a boat down south? Maybe.

Everybody has varying degrees of what they are willing to accept or not on their personal boat, thats why they make them in all styles and sizes in every area possible.

Whether right or wrong, bringing a salty up to the great lakes will always have that stigma of being a saltwater boat and your pool of buyers shrinks to maybe 1 in 10 at best. Within the first 5 questions I get daily on boats there will be "has this always been a freshwater boat?" I can't make this stuff up!
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I certainly understand your point, and I think that is why I feel so strongly about buyers seeing a boat in person before making an offer. Sometimes the effects of salt water neglect are subtle and easily covered up by a creative detailer or photographer. You can put make up on a pig, but its still a pig. A well cared for salt water boat won't show any of the list of issues you mentioned. Mine is one of them, but even with stainless hardware and a Fortress aluminum anchor, no surface corrosion on bronze fittings in the bilge, a clean bottom, etc., the one thing I can't "fix" or avoid is the sun damage on the gelcoat. Even with 3 wax jobs a year on the topsides, after 15 years in the sun, you can tell my boat is a Florida boat.
 
I finally found a boat. I won't say anything else until the deal is closed, but after 5 months of searching, a couple thousand in travel costs, 200,000 frequent flier miles, and countless hours spent on the Internet (including this site), my offer was accepted and the boat passed survey and sea trial with flying colors. Will post more once the deal is done.


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Good luck Bryan, I hope this works out. Make sure to be ready to post pictures of the new boat when you reveal what you bought!
 
Bryank said:
I finally found a boat. I won't say anything else until the deal is closed, but after 5 months of searching, a couple thousand in travel costs, 200,000 frequent flier miles, and countless hours spent on the Internet (including this site), my offer was accepted and the boat passed survey and sea trial with flying colors. Will post more once the deal is done.

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I am here: http://tapatalk.com/map.php?pqzeua
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Congrats Bryan, I am so sorry Stan's boat did not work out for you. It truly was in great shape when I owned it. Too bad this happened, when he was in poor health he must have really neglected it.
 
Has anyone removed the built in coffee maker from the galley of their 410 DA? My wife would prefer to use the space for storage so we bought one of those Keurig coffee makers to put on the counter. When I went to remove the coffee maker, I could not figure out how to access where it is plugged in. I figured it would be right behind the maker, but no such luck. Any advice is appreciated!

Thanks!
 
The coffee maker is screwed to a plate. The plate itself has three of four screws through the bottom of the cabinet.

To unplug it from the electricity, remove the refrigerator and reach behind the cabinet to get to the plug.
 
About 5 minutes of very light effort to remove old coffee maker. I could easily reach the plug w/o removing refrigerator. That cabinet now stores my Keurig when not in use, all coffee supplies, and couple of cocktail shakers
 
The fridge has 3 screws in each side, another one near the freezer door hinge and 5 in the bottom plate. Put several layers of masking tape across the front of the galley sink so you don't scratch the trim. Bring a friend and slide it our onto a drop cloth or old towels. Climb in the hole and reach behind the cabinets to unplug. While you are there, check the ends on all of the coax to make sure they are all OK and check to see that anything plugged into the fridge outlet is plugged in securely.

I am headed back into mine in a day or two to connect up some new electronics and to retrieve a brand new maglite left behind the last time it was out.
 
It really doesn't take too much to get it out. Just watch the 12v and 120v wires. They may be wire tied to the coils on the back of the fridge.
 
Well it has been interesting to read all the comments of gas and diesel engine options. If I may I will put in my two cents or maybe a dollar !!! I work with diesel machinery, yes they have more torque, yes they run more hours, yes the sound is nicer but yes they stink more than gas engines. I have lots of fellow boaters with diesels and when I get onboard their boats (not running) I can smell the diesel fumes on their boats. When I was looking to upgrade the boat I was looking for all kinds of options and diesel was at bottom of the list. Maybe if I would be close to the ocean and it would take me half a day to get to destination I would put the diesels on top of list but we boat in the thousand islands area. Diesels are more expensive to buy, less to run when no problem occurs but very expensive to have work done when they require mechanical work. Yes you get some money back on resale, this if you want to sell in a few years or trade up but our intentions was to keep what we bought for many many years. I found this boat 2000 410 DA twin 454 in Alexandria Bay NY with 146 hours on it. Yes she was a dock queen. She is in great shape only needed TLC and buffer ,elbow grease !!! We love the layout of this 410 DA and the boat handles very well when docking even when the Seadoo is on the platform. Maybe it would be better with diesels but haven’t tried one. As they say maybe I’m missing something good but enjoying the best boat I ever had.
 
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