Luxury Cars Burning At Sea…

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MonacoMike said:
“Around 1,100 Porsches and 189 Bentleys were on board, spokespeople for the car brands owned by Volkswagen said. Audi, another Volkswagen brand, confirmed some of its vehicles were also on the ship but did not state how many.”



https://www.cbc.ca/news/world/ship-fire-luxury-cars-lithium-batteries-azores-1.6357274
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But they are environmentally friendly..."Lithium-ion batteries in the electric cars on board the vehicle carrier Felicity Ace have caught fire and the blaze requires specialist equipment to extinguish"...
 
Supposedly there is some $400 million worth of vehicles on board. Have they heard of not putting all your eggs in one basket? Makes one wonder how in this day and age a vessel like that can be destroyed by an accidental fire. Seem like it has to be a case of arson or at the very least sabotage.
Just another hit on the insurance pool.
 
How much a ship like that worth? I heard about the same amount in cargo, just curious about ship value
 
Lithium batteries ignite so quickly and burn so violently that you cannot extinguish them. Here is a scooter that catches fire and they barely make it out of the apartment.
You could only imagine the energy release from a hybrid or electric vehicle battery.

 
DWABoat said:
Something tells me if the electric car batteries caused this blaze, we will never hear about it on the national news.
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Looks to me like they are chomping at the teeth to blame this on the electric cars. Not a single article that I’ve seen has left that detail out.
 
Espos4 said:
Lithium batteries ignite so quickly and burn so violently that you cannot extinguish them. Here is a scooter that catches fire and they barely make it out of the apartment.
You could only imagine the energy release from a hybrid or electric vehicle battery.

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Holy crap, glad I retired from our volunteer fire dept.
 
yobub said:
No, never. SMH.
https://www.cnn.com/2020/11/10/success/electric-car-vehicle-battery-fires/index.html

https://www.nbcchicago.com/news/local/nearly-100-tons-of-lithium-batteries-involved-in-large-morris-industrial-fire/2543694/#:~:text=NBC 5's Christian Farr reports,and "very deadly" fumes.

https://www.cnn.com/2022/01/09/us/ny-lithium-battery-bronx-fire/index.html
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Okay. You got me on that one, although I would hardly call a passive mention on a website as “national news” in the CNN/NBC world. However, it was at least mentioned. Maybe all that housecleaning at CNN is doing some good!!!!
 
Espos4 said:
Lithium batteries ignite so quickly and burn so violently that you cannot extinguish them. Here is a scooter that catches fire and they barely make it out of the apartment.
You could only imagine the energy release from a hybrid or electric vehicle battery.

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You should get your facts straight on the chemistry and the battery applications/hazards. Come on you are better than some half-baked hyperbolic journalist. To allude that 0.001% of battery installations that have thermal issues is a problem is incredibly mis-leading.
 
ttmott said:
You should get your facts straight on the chemistry and the battery applications/hazards. Come on you are better than some half-baked hyperbolic journalist. To allude that 0.001% of battery installations that have thermal issues is a problem is incredibly mis-leading.
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Tom,
When they do burn, they burn hot and fast. Regardless of the percentage of batteries this happens to, it happens. Two commercial airliners have crashed as a result of these batteries igniting. And it is a problem if it happens to you. Just sayin'. I will be the last person to adopt EVs, but that is my personal choice. I like burning dinosaurs. I won't even get into the absurdity of oil coming from decomposing dinosaurs or vegetation.
 
highslice said:
Tom,
When they do burn, they burn hot and fast. Regardless of the percentage of batteries this happens to, it happens. Two commercial airliners have crashed as a result of these batteries igniting. And it is a problem if it happens to you. Just sayin'. I will be the last person to adopt EVs, but that is my personal choice. I like burning dinosaurs. I won't even get into the absurdity of oil coming from decomposing dinosaurs or vegetation.
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Again, be clear on the battery chemistry and evolution you are discussing. To site the airliner accidents is showing ignorance portrayed as fact as an analogy isn't your style; the technology not only is different in the types and chemistry and hazards of the batteries, but the safety measures and protections have dramatically changed and has rippled down in today's applications.
Today's automobile lithium battery technology is just as safe and reliable as gasoline powered automobiles. How many gasoline fires are there due to leaks in engine compartments?; I would say from a percentile aspect just as many....
 
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