Guns on your boat

Strypes said:
If you want to have a gun with you, that's your right/choice. If not, likewise. To each his own.

Just my $0.02!
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I completely agree, why have we become a nation of "if I don't need it, you don't need it and we should outlaw it" ?


I saw a minivan the other day with a bumper sticker that said "Ban mopeds, they're dangerous" . You might be surprised to find out that the driver was texting on her phone while screaming at at least three children, none of who were wearing their seatbelts and were bouncing around in the back from seat to seat.
 
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northern said:
Any one know what the law is in Russia?
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Due to ny knowledge also very restrictive for civil prople. Surely no loaded carry and as far as i know generally no handguns , only rifles or shotguns for hunting purposes.
 
Please don't feel sorry for us in little Ol' Australia with our small cities
Apart from not having guns we also believe in

Pro Choice
Same Sex Marriage
Multiculturalism
Evolution
Obama Care
 
Meathead said:
Please don't feel sorry for us in little Ol' Australia with our small cities
Apart from not having guns we also believe in

Pro Choice
Same Sex Marriage
Multiculturalism
Evolution
Obama Care
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You sure that you believe in "Obamacare"? Are you aware of how "Obamacare" actually works? I can assure you that you may be in favor of free health care for all, but no sane person would be in favor of "Obamacare". It's NOT what you, a Canadian, a Brit or any member of the civilized world would consider to be a health care solution.
 
LTD.330 said:
It is beyond absurd that someone who defends their own life from an attacker intent on doing them bodily harm would be imprisoned for defending their own life.
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No you wouldn't necessarily be imprisoned - it would depend on the circumstances of the case. And I would hazard a guess it would be the similar in the US?

I also don't hear any aussies complaining about our restrictive gun laws nor have seen any movements to change our existing laws.
 
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If it was not such a hassle to legally have a gun here in Canada I would have one close to my bed. But its just not worth the trouble. I have a couple high power pellet guns that would slow somene down enough for me to hit them in the head with it. I believe in your rights to possess them. I am not sure if it helps anything, we all know criminals with guns aren't going to follow any of the laws regarding them anyway. It is nice to know the chances of anyone you can see at any time having a gun on them is pretty low. If I was living in the U.S.A.? Damn rights I would want one.
How to fix the problem of too many in criminals hands is the real question, but that is another thread.
 
thegotoguyr said:
If it was not such a hassle to legally have a gun here in Canada I would have one close to my bed. But its just not worth the trouble. I have a couple high power pellet guns that would slow somene down enough for me to hit them in the head with it. I believe in your rights to possess them. I am not sure if it helps anything, we all know criminals with guns aren't going to follow any of the laws regarding them anyway. It is nice to know the chances of anyone you can see at any time having a gun on them is pretty low. If I was living in the U.S.A.? Damn rights I would want one.
How to fix the problem of too many in criminals hands is the real question, but that is another thread.
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It's not difficult at all to own a gun in Canada. I'd be happy to help you out.
 
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Black Valkyrie said:
You sure that you believe in "Obamacare"? Are you aware of how "Obamacare" actually works? I can assure you that you may be in favor of free health care for all, but no sane person would be in favor of "Obamacare". It's NOT what you, a Canadian, a Brit or any member of the civilized world would consider to be a health care solution.
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Obamacare is NOT healthcare. It is a "Tax" for being alive. You now cannot choose to not have healthcare. When I was a less fortunate soul, I had to make a choice between healthcare and food/rent for several years. Since I chose a place to live and meals to eat, I did not have healthcare and knew the risks and accepted them. Got hurt once and paid about $1600 for staples, an ER visit. Follow up visit and removal of staples. If I made that choice today it would be roughly $2700/year "tax" penalty for not having healthcare.
Obama are is not a plan but a punishment for not affording a plan.
Yes, it's that stupid.

It's also a discussion for another thread. Back to Guns.
 
juggernaut1 said:
No you wouldn't necessarily be imprisoned - it would depend on the circumstances of the case. And I would hazard a guess it would be the similar in the US?

I also don't hear any aussies complaining about our restrictive gun laws nor have seen any movements to change our existing laws.
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That's what they said in Germany and France just before the Muslim migrant crisis, attacks, crime wave, and rape epidemic. Now, they can't keep guns on the shelf. There's a movement in Europe to change their restrictive gun laws, because people are realizing the government can't protect them. It must be nice living in a country surrounded by water, with a relatively homogeneous population. You are subjects of a monarchy without your God given rights to bear arms and of self-protection. It works for you. Being born and raised in that culture, you will never understand American culture, our Constitution and Bill of Rights. You'll never understand a clash of cultures in a "diverse" population until you live in it. Until you see someone go nuts on Ice or K2, you won't get it. Until you see the mentally ill, that are probably in hospitals in your country, freely roaming the streets and acting crazy like it is the new norm, you won't get it. Until you see a violent offender with a rap sheet longer than they are tall freed again by a broken justice system, you will not get it. When you do, the right of self-defense becomes very apparent and Aussies will be complaining about their restrictive gun laws and you'll see movements to change your existing laws
 
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JV II said:
That's what they said in Germany and France just before the Muslim migrant crisis, attacks, crime wave, and rape epidemic. Now, they can't keep guns on the shelf. There's a movement in Europe to change their restrictive gun laws, because people are realizing the government can't protect them. It must be nice living in a country surrounded by water, with a relatively homogeneous population. You are subjects of a monarchy without your God given rights to bear arms and of self-protection. It works for you. Being born and raised in that culture, you will never understand American culture, our Constitution and Bill of Rights. You'll never understand a clash of cultures in a "diverse" population until you live in it. Until you see someone go nuts on Ice or K2, you won't get it. Until you see the mentally ill, that are probably in hospitals in your country, freely roaming the streets and acting crazy like it is the new norm, you won't get it. Until you see a violent offender with a rap sheet longer than they are tall freed again by a broken justice system, you will not get it. When you do, the right of self-defense becomes very apparent and Aussies will be complaining about their restrictive gun laws and you'll see movements to change your existing laws
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Holy Smokes JV that country you live in sounds terrible, extremely dangerous.....but if you're correct Australia sounds pretty safe and civilized.....hmmm, maybe they'd let you in.:smt043
 
JV II said:
You'll never understand a clash of cultures in a "diverse" population until you live in it. Until you see someone go nuts on Ice or K2, you won't get it. Until you see the mentally ill, that are probably in hospitals in your country, freely roaming the streets and acting crazy like it is the new norm, you won't get it. Until you see a violent offender with a rap sheet longer than they are tall freed again by a broken justice system, you will not get it.
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Strewth.....sounds like you live in a war zone!!
 
Woody said:
Holy Smokes JV that country you live in sounds terrible, extremely dangerous.....but if you're correct Australia sounds pretty safe and civilized.....hmmm, maybe they'd let you in.:smt043
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Haven't you heard - we're full and overpopulated at the moment. :grin:
 
In the USA we pay a price for every Freedom. Every Liberty. Every Constitutional right we have has been paid for in blood, and sacrifice. Many would never pay the price, and some (even here) feel even the maintenance costs are too high. Nothing about Freedom or Liberty is easy. A good many of my countrymen feel we would be safer if only the government had tools of war. Fortunately the founding fathers 2nd Amendment was to insure that never happened. To abandon any part of our Constitution is a dangerous and slippery slope. Many of my countrymen do not "believe" in the "Affordable Health Care Act" I think it was called a "Tax on Life" by someone? We have several Politicians promising to Abolish it, and replace it with "something much much better". No idea what that might be. After eight years of opposing every single thing Obama tried to accomplish, and eight years of zero compromise, the new "plan" Obama' detractors have worked out is "Something much much better". I am left of center, and although I support the 2nd amendment, and fiscal conservancy, I am not drinking any Koolaid. I have Google, and I am not afraid to use it.
My point is that in this country we are Free to have and state our opinions. No one has to be an idiot. No one has to go to jail. There are interesting arguments on both sides, and we are free to explore them. Hopefully we then make the best educated vote we can, and accept the decision of the majority as law. I have very strong opinions about my right to defend myself and my family. I have very strong opinions about defending Freedom and Liberty at home, so that our troops come back to the same country they have been fighting for across the globe. And find countrymen who value their service and receive them like family.
Regan increased the Federal workforce (size of Government) by over 300,000 workers. By the end of Clintons second term the Federal Workforce was at its smallest size in decades! Under Reagan the National debt almost tripled. Clinton balanced the budget and paid down the National Debt. My conservative friends are free to argue that Republicans are more "conservative", but on the items that matter to me the Republican Party has gone off the rails. Don't get too comfortable, my Liberal buddies, because the Democrats are seeking to undo a piece of the US Constitution based on anti-gun rhetoric, Promising Safety in trade of Liberty. This is a ridiculous argument. Like screwing for Virginity. We pay a price in lives for driving cars. We pay a price in lives for allowing alcohol consumption. We pay a price in lives for our gun policies. We will never be invaded, because past the armies there will still be a gun behind every blade of grass.
 
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2000SR380
Once I read the reason Japan never invaded the US was the US had a ready army of 180,000,000 IE all the gun owners.
 
northern said:
2000SR380
Once I read the reason Japan never invaded the US was the US had a ready army of 180,000,000 IE all the gun owners.
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There is a quote often attributed to Isoroku Yamamoto. Something about a 'rifle behind every blade of grass'. Origins are dubious, but I like it. Working in Richmond CA, I have imagined an invading army trying to take control of the city. All I can say is good luck to them. With all the murder and brutality between us city dwellers, giving us a reason to unite against a common enemy would be bad for whoever tries to invade. I would suggest they better bring a pretty formidable army, or a lot of body bags. We do have our issues of course, and political disagreements, but when it comes down to brass tacks, none of us want to be learning Japanese, or sending our grand kids to Russian school. And none of us spend much time worrying about it either. I have a few boxes of Hornady Zombie Max shot gun shells. Guaranteed to stop zombies! Not really worried about a Zombie invasion either. Bought them mostly because my grand kids watch The Walking Dead, and it was good for a laugh. I guess my point is there is a difference between not worrying about defending yourself against something that will never happen, and not worrying about defending yourself against a scenario that has repeated quite often throughout history.
 
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