Cummins Gauges

ttmott said:
What I don't see in these harness' are the Link gauge data interfaces. There should be four plugs for up to 4 engine gauge sets. I would have that conversation with Mercury before purchasing.
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I already ordered it, it be here Monday.
 
ttmott said:
What I don't see in these harness' are the Link gauge data interfaces. There should be four plugs for up to 4 engine gauge sets. I would have that conversation with Mercury before purchasing.
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Tom,
he needs a primary harness

8M0075065
 
Shaps said:
Just to be super clear, you will need a primary harness AND a vesselview 4 harness.

The difference between the 2 vv4 harnesses is just the end that plugs into the VesselView Link(that is the black box in the picture you posted). One has a straight plug and the other a 90 degree bend.

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if you haven't read through this thread, you should, but if nothing else this is where i posted some pics of the vv703 install

http://www.clubsearay.com/index.php...vessel-view-upgrade.96502/page-7#post-1247095
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In looking at the picture it looks like one wire does have a 90degree plug
 
RBB said:
In looking at the picture it looks like one wire does have a 90degree plug
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i bought that kit and I am saying you need a vv4 harness
Proceed as you will.
 
Shaps said:
Tom,
he needs a primary harness

8M0075065
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Yes that's it. I don't know if his existing Diesel View primary harness will work or not. I seem to remember there were some changes in how power supply was different in the harnesses.
 
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ttmott said:
Yes that's it. I don't know if his existing Diesel View primary harness will work or not. I seem to remember there were some changes in how power supply was different in the harnesses.
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Agreed. He needs to swap out the dieselview harness with that one
 
@RBB
please show those rigging diagrams i posted above to your installer.
It really should go smoothly if he follows that.
I received it directly from mercury support.
 
ttmott said:
Yes that's it. I don't know if his existing Diesel View primary harness will work or not. I seem to remember there were some changes in how power supply was different in the harnesses.
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so i need to order this harness also, correct?
 
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you need a primary harness and a vv4 harness.
 
RBB said:
Ordered sir. I am so far in in it dosen't matter. Here on the Ohio River marine electronic guys dosen't seem to exist.
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Rest assured not many at all understand how the VV's are integrated and set up; they are not simple systems. Unless your "tech" has done many of them he will no doubt struggle.
However, once you get the data on a NMEA 2000 network it gets quite simplified and logical.
 
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At the risk of more complication, I am thinking RBB might need to connect the two existing j-boxes. On Tom's diagram in post #30, it would be e-Multiignition Harness for Dual Engine Applications - I've also seen this called a "Crossover" harness. I believe some of the early Smartcraft installations had the engine data segregated until the cables met up at the Diesel View. RBB, you might want to inspect your Junction boxes and look for a cable going between them. If you don't have one, you will likely need the crossover. I think it is Mercury Part #84-892323 A01 T01 but I'm not sure. A usually helpful resource is sbmar.com and they also sell the cables.
Just putting this out there, others may know better.
 
alnav said:
At the risk of more complication, I am thinking RBB might need to connect the two existing j-boxes. On Tom's diagram in post #30, it would be e-Multiignition Harness for Dual Engine Applications - I've also seen this called a "Crossover" harness. I believe some of the early Smartcraft installations had the engine data segregated until the cables met up at the Diesel View. RBB, you might want to inspect your Junction boxes and look for a cable going between them. If you don't have one, you will likely need the crossover. I think it is Mercury Part #84-892323 A01 T01 but I'm not sure. A usually helpful resource is sbmar.com and they also sell the cables.
Just putting this out there, others may know better.
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I appreciate ur input sir. damn I should just pay one of u guys to get it going. myself I don't have a clue
on how to do it. In fact i am going to have to winterize my boat next couple weeks, this project has been ongoing since spring since we could not get all the parts. I am about done with it.
 
alnav said:
At the risk of more complication, I am thinking RBB might need to connect the two existing j-boxes. On Tom's diagram in post #30, it would be e-Multiignition Harness for Dual Engine Applications - I've also seen this called a "Crossover" harness. I believe some of the early Smartcraft installations had the engine data segregated until the cables met up at the Diesel View. RBB, you might want to inspect your Junction boxes and look for a cable going between them. If you don't have one, you will likely need the crossover. I think it is Mercury Part #84-892323 A01 T01 but I'm not sure. A usually helpful resource is sbmar.com and they also sell the cables.
Just putting this out there, others may know better.
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Al you are 100% correct you need that to feed off both blocks. I did it off one the first time and while it worked for awhile then the Starboard side would just drop out and gauges would go dead and you couldn’t even shut off the engines. Once Merc told me to order and install that harness everything worked perfect.
 
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Guys I more than appreciate the input. Give me the part number please, i will order it also.
Ocgrant Alnav
 
RBB said:
I appreciate ur input sir. damn I should just pay one of u guys to get it going. myself I don't have a clue
on how to do it. In fact i am going to have to winterize my boat next couple weeks, this project has been ongoing since spring since we could not get all the parts. I am about done with it.
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@alnav has a point but if you had a functional Diesel View you should have the cross-over cable. Easy way to determine.
Under your helm there should be two Smartcraft six port J-boxes. One J-box is for the Port side propulsion and the cables should have red tape on them. The Other J-box for the Starboard and have Green tape on the cables. The connectors on the J-boxes all are identical and are 10 pin connectors. There should be a cross-over cable that connects between the two Jboxes. Now up above the helm in the overhead where the gauges and Diesel View is located there is another pair of J-boxes that simply have extension cables to them from the ones under the helm There should be a single wire connecting the two of those together - that is the "wake" crossover so the Diesel View will wake up (power on) regardless which engine ignition is turned on.... It is the cross-connector under the helm @alnav is recommending you verify is there; it should be.....
Now there is the main Vessel View harness which has all of the ancillary connectors for the gauges, temperature probe, and others that are not needed that connects to the two J-boxes in the over-head. That harness integrates with the harness' in the kit you are buying. This picture is one 8M0070647 I just happen to have laying around. You can see where the VV harness (in this case VV 7) is connected to the harness (90 degree connector on one end). Then on the other extreme end the 10 pin connector that interfaces with the starboard J-box. Not shown here is the single wire wake harness. The long part of the cable going upward is the temperature probe connector. The other connectors on this harness are for the Sys Link gauges.
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ttmott said:
@alnav has a point but if you had a functional Diesel View you should have the cross-over cable. Easy way to determine.
Under your helm there should be two Smartcraft six port J-boxes. One J-box is for the Port side propulsion and the cables should have red tape on them. The Other J-box for the Starboard and have Green tape on the cables. The connectors on the J-boxes all are identical and are 10 pin connectors. There should be a cross-over cable that connects between the two Jboxes. Now up above the helm in the overhead where the gauges and Diesel View is located there is another pair of J-boxes that simply have extension cables to them from the ones under the helm There should be a single wire connecting the two of those together - that is the "wake" crossover so the Diesel View will wake up (power on) regardless which engine ignition is turned on.... It is the cross-connector under the helm @alnav is recommending you verify is there; it should be.....
Now there is the main Vessel View harness which has all of the ancillary connectors for the gauges, temperature probe, and others that are not needed that connects to the two J-boxes in the over-head. That harness integrates with the harness' in the kit you are buying. This picture is one 8M0070647 I just happen to have laying around. You can see where the VV harness (in this case VV 7) is connected to the harness (90 degree connector on one end). Then on the other extreme end the 10 pin connector that interfaces with the starboard J-box. Not shown here is the single wire wake harness. The long part of the cable going upward is the temperature probe connector. The other connectors on this harness are for the Sys Link gauges.View attachment 114533
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I am lost, wish i had a idea, hopefully installer does. if not going to wrap it up in next week or two. will need to winterize here on the Ohio River.
I more than appreciate the assistance you guys have given. wish u were on my dock.
Cheers
 
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