220 DA thread

Just pulled my 220 out of storage. Rented a slip on Lake Texoma for a year. Its been under cover for three years and it has some oxidation issues. i changed the oil and checked all the fluids. New batteries and she started on the second turn of the key...

I will use the holiday weekend to finish installing a few items...New battery maintainers, and a Garmin GPS unit. Will also work on the oxidation. If i have time the new bottom paint will be going on, if not I may let the marina work on the bottom paint for me.

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Danny Troy said:
I can't remember why your boat was out of service. Anyway, welcome back and hopefully your repairs weren't too expensive.

Did you route the water pump wiring through the engine compartment, or is there an easier way? The shore-line panel is right next to the galley, but I'm pretty sure it doesn't have any water pump wiring in that area.
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My boat was out of service all of 2009 to strip out and refit the cabin and I only got back in the water at my new marina http://www.knockninnyhouse.com/in May.

I routed my cables along the original wiring loom on the inside edges of the cabin(blue line pic below) but this was easy for me to do as I had stripped out all the headlining at this time.

Your right about the shore power panel in the galley the original panel didn’t have any switches for the water pump or the fridge infect my boat just had a very sample UK 240v trip switch on the panel this was removed during the refit and a new panel to incoherent switches for the water pump the fridge and new lighting and an extractor fan in the head.

I had thought about routing the cables through the engine compartment (red line pic below) and had I not had my boat striped out this is the way I would have done it.

Alternatively you could try and remove the wooden trim around the door (yellow line pic below) there would be room for some small cables to go into a little void space I found between the headlining and the edge of the door frame you could run the wire from the dash to a new switch panel somewhere in the galley.

I plan to post some more pictures of the refit soon on a thread.

Isola:thumbsup:
 
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Isola, The boat looks great. Is that compartment above the stove custom, or did it come that way from the factory? All the 220s I've seen have a compartment along the wall, below the side window. Looks like you have a lot of storage there.

That diagram looks great too! May I ask, what program did you use to create it? Looks like you started with a factory diagram and used a program to add the color lines. Very professional!

Yes, I'd probably route the fresh water pump wiring through the engine compartment, for simplicity. I already routed a few wires from on side to the other, going through the engine compartment, so it shouldn't be to hard to do. That might be my next project, although I actually still haven't waxed the deck.
 
Danny Troy said:
Isola, The boat looks great. Is that compartment above the stove custom, or did it come that way from the factory? All the 220s I've seen have a compartment along the wall, below the side window. Looks like you have a lot of storage there.

That diagram looks great too! May I ask, what program did you use to create it? Looks like you started with a factory diagram and used a program to add the color lines. Very professional!

Yes, I'd probably route the fresh water pump wiring through the engine compartment, for simplicity. I already routed a few wires from on side to the other, going through the engine compartment, so it shouldn't be to hard to do. That might be my next project, although I actually still haven't waxed the deck.
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Thanks Danny, it’s nice to have the boat back in the water and start to get some use out of her.

The compartments above and in front of the stove are both customs allow I think some of the 220s had something similar above the stove the one below the window is much bigger than the original and the shelf is handy to as I found we had nowhere to keep pleats cup glasses ect plenty of room now.

As for the diagram as you said I started with an originally sea ray diagram and used Microsoft paint to add the coloured lines I just find it easier to explain something sometimes with a diagram or a picture I am glad you liked it.

Yes, I'd probably route the fresh water pump wiring through the engine compartment to and because you’ve done it before you know what you’re up against.

The next project I hear ya, I have done loads and can still find things that need doing I think I could find things that would need doing on a brand new boat.

isola
 
isola said:
The next project I hear ya, I have done loads and can still find things that need doing I think I could find things that would need doing on a brand new boat.

isola
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You got that right. The person I bought the boat from did virtually nothing to the boat, other than keep it in tip-top shape, since he bought it in 1989. When I showed him the improvements I made he was blown away. I guess you were a born tinkerer, as I am!
 
Danny, lots o good work on the boat. I like the swim platform.
I'd like on on my boat but can't justify the cost of purchasing a pre-made.
Did you buy the Starboard locally or order online? Any cutting/molding tips you can provide would be greatly appreciated.
 
Thanks for the compliments. Just yesterday I added venting to the platform. I made three sections of 3/8" holes..... 630 of them, to be exact. Luckily I had two drills, cause they get hot after repeated use, so you have to alternate. I'll post a photo on my site in a few days. That should do the venting job nicely.

I had a heck of a time finding Starboard at a good price. The place nearest my house that stocked it wanted twice as much as wwhat I paid from a place in Long Island. I believe the name was Sabic Polymershapes. They may have other facilites throughout the US. Google it and you may find them. It was a bit of a drive to pick it up, but it was worth saving the shipping charges, which were over $100.00. Don't forget to order the right color. There are a few "whites". The match for my boat was arctic white. Also, be sure you get the "AS" type, which is anti-skid when walking on it.

Cutting is the same as cutting wood, and possibly easier, since there no knots and other imperfections to deal with. You can route the edges just like wood, and drill into it the same as if it was wood. Use a nice carbide blade for the circular saw, although just about any saw will cut it. You sand the same as wood, but finish off with a very fine sandpaper, so you won't see the scratching that the coarser sandpaper leaves.
 
Bought a 220 da a few weeks ago, I was sold by the test drive and how this boat cuts the waves. I was brought up a sailor, and wow is this better! I have a few projects to do, and a few questions to ask, so I hope all of you 220 owners out there can help,

Is it normal for this boat to wander all over when going at a low speed, I can't seem to even nearly keep it straight!

I think my boat should go faster than it does with my 350 merc and new SEI drive, mostly looking for a good cruising speed, 22mph at 3500, and 29 at wot at around 4300... anybody close to that? The prop I believe is 14.5 x 19p

Also my fridge seems to only work on dockside right now, but its a norcold, anybody know an easy fix?

See ya on the water!
-carl-
 
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Carl, on the fridge, do you have a switch on the dash marked fridge? I have to turn that one on to run the fridge on DC. At least I think thats what I had to do...Its been a few years. My boat will hopefully be on the water in two weeks.

My 220 was also all over the place at low speed, but I got used to it and now have no problems keeping straight.

I run a 4 blade stainless 19 and(if memory serves correct)get about 30-32 on the GPS at WOT but cant remember the RPM.
 
My fridge switch on the dash is the very last switch on the right. This is for DC.

I am running an 15x16 4 blade and get 22 MPH at 3000 and 28 at WOT.
 
Hi Guys,
New to this forum but I have had two 220's over the last twenty years. Even sold an 87 250 to get into our current 91 220. More room and better ride. Anyway this post got my attention. I added a gray and black water holding tank to our boat. I have plugged all overboard sink, and shower drains. We were boating on Lake George NY and the goverment would not let us launch our boat unless the drains were plugged and sealed with their official yellow penalty if removed tape. Anyway I put a 40 gallon plastic tank in the engine compartment and plumbed the sink and shower drains into the shower bilge then to the holding tank. I also removed the y valve and ran the macerator line to the tank. System works great with nothing going overboard. The goverment officials loved the set up next time we launced on Lake George. It is also nice not to see my toothpaste floating along side the boat.
You guys have done some great work on your boats.
 
Transom Seat Mod

Here is the mod I did on my 220DA. The coolers are Igloo 72 with the seat cushions modified with the material fro the old transom seat. I installed the seat back on the transom with Magma Grill flush mounts and 2 in strap Stainless strap. The cooler have the Igloo floor mounts in the front only, the back sits up against the transom.The seat back needed a back because it only has a screen material from the factory. A trim shop mounted a white vinyl on the back. I mounted a 1 1/4 pvc pipe to slide the Anchor light pole thru the cushion with trim washers I made out of the marine lumber ( nylon )
 

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hello all, I am new to the forum but I have read about every page on this thread i think haha, A buddy of mine at my work has a 1990 sea ray 220 da that he is thinking about selling. He bought it 7 years ago and it had a blown head gasket is what he says when he bought it. Well needless to say it is sitting in the exact spot he parked it...untouched for the 7 years. Now he is talking about unloading it. I am very mechanically inclined and can fix about anything. It has a 305 in it. I think he will take 1500$ for it with the trailer and everything. The interior needs a little cleaning up and a little work. the switches in the instrument panel will need replaced and of course the engine will need work or I might replace with a 350. Any input on what you all think about the price, the 350 sway (yay or nay and what all would be involved) and any other information would be greatly appreciated!! Thanks, Kenny
 
If everything else is sound, that sounds like an incredible price. I love my 89 220da. I am in the process of restoring everything a little at a time. I have WAY more than that in my boat. I would recommend the 350 if you are going to do a replacement. I think the 220DA is a classic. they dont make them like that anymore and I hear that from everyone that sees mine.
 
thanks for the information, yea it looks like a pretty nice boat. it has just been sitting for a while and the engine needs work. other than that i really think a wash and wax will have it looking like new. It is completely white no color on the bottom half. looks pretty much like the photo in danny troy's sig minus the top he has on it.
 
oh yea and i guess the ones that are newer like my buddies boat has the swim platform built on to the back of the boat so it doesnt have to have one added. I know his is part of the boat. What year did they start doing that?
 
Hi, I am buying the boat today. I am wondering though.. he said it does not have shore power? i thought all the cuddy cabins had shore power? I looked at the dash panel where the refrig. switch would be and it says "refrig" but the hole is blocked off so I guess he is right and it doesn't have shore power. If I had 2 batterys and a master switch would I need a generator to stay out all night without shore power? thanks
 
On my 220DA the dash panel frig switch operates the frig on 12v only. There is a switch in the shore power panel for the frig when on shore power. What actually happens, is the frig works on shore power when it is available, regardless on whether the dash switch is on or off.

The frig can be either 110v, 12v, or both. You may have the 12v version, so having shore power won't help, other than keeping your batteries charged.

You should be fine staying out at night on one battery. Just keep the amp demand as low as possible, and use the frig on the low setting. I'm out for several hours at a time, using the frig, and several other draws on the battery, and the battery I'm using (I always keep one unused for starting) goes from about 12.8v to start, down to about 12.5v at it's lowest.

At the start of the season I didn't use the frig, but now I see the battery can handle it, so I keep it on the "2" setting.

And no, all cabin cruisers don't have shore power. It's an option that some people don't need, so the manufacturer may have it as an option when buying.
 
I'm a new owner of a 1991 220 Sundancer, 5.7 260 hp Jasper engine. I'm looking for the side windows for the convertable top, They were missing when I bought the boat. My tops are green.
 
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