The Truth about COVID -19

"So, the best strategy would be to do anything and everything to bring down the infection rate and keep it down as the key to restoring the economy along with the jobs and businesses that have been impacted."

I guess I took that as you saying lock downs were a good thing.
I think whatever it takes to get the infection rate down is a good thing. While I agree the completely free choice approach you describe could be tried, I don't think it would prove effective. Seems like some states have already attempted this and have ended up backtracking. My main point is that individuals will not come out and spend and therefore revive the economy until they judge for themselves that it is (relatively) safe to do so. If that can be done with your approach I am all for it.
 
For those afraid of this virus the following is a transcript of physicians standing in front of SCOTUS building yesterday.

It addresses the disinformation campaign about drug treatment, return to school, etc.

Note YouTube, Facebook, Twitter, immediately removed this which went viral yesterday.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.re...octors-scotus-press-conference-transcript/amp
Here's some info about the leader of yesterday's presentation:
Trump’s New Favorite COVID Doctor Believes in Alien DNA, Demon Sperm, and Hydroxychloroquine
https://www.thedailybeast.com/stell...-alien-dna-demon-sperm-and-hydroxychloroquine
 
Ok, so what is it that is so unique about the US situation that is keeping you both with continuing high new COVID cases/hospitalizations/deaths AND a shut down economy?

We are a big country with 57 states (ok nobody got the last reference). New York got hit hard at the beginning. California and Washington less so. But based on NY's experience, states all thru the country shut down even though they didn't have a lot of infections yet. As states opened back up, the infections rolled thru. There is nothing you can really do about it. Masks, social distancing, and all the rest help slow things down, but don't prevent anything. Just look at the charts. They don't lie. Curves spike and now are flattening.
 
The daily beast? Are you kidding? Not exactly a neutral source.
Not sure it matters for a news piece. But, the article does have links to its source material. Here's a sample:
FIRE POWER DELIVERANCE MINISTRIES WITH DR STELLA IMMANUEL
"Many women suffer from astral sex regularly. Astral sex is the ability to project one’s spirit man into the victim’s body and have intercourse with it. This practice is very common amongst Satanists. They leave their physical bodies in a dormant state while they project their spirits into the body of whoever they want to have sex with."
 
NC ordered mask wearing 34 days ago. Covid cases have increased since the order. Compliance with the order is very high in urban areas. Not so much in rural areas.

When is mask wearing going to begin stopping the spread in NC?

NY did not flatten the curve with mask wearing it was done by a complete shutdown of the economy. NYC has still not reopened they just ended the mandatory shelter in place order and allowed dining on sidewalks.
Looks like cases peaked about 10 days ago and have been on the decline since. Timing is just about right for masking to have been the causation for this. Congrats and let's hope it continues. NC case chart from News and Observer:
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The problem with the unemployed right now is the Democrats want to pay them significantly for being unemployed. The ones that are really hurting are the small business owners that will lose their business over this. Gov't is paying the unemployed $600 extra per week (on top of regular unemployment benefits). The guy making $500/week normally is now making $1000 per week. And Nancy Pelosi made the comment that these people need this to put food on their table. They are now making more than the average worker in this country.
Many don't want it to end. Thanks to Pelosi and her fellow Dems most unemployed are making more now than they ever have in their life and probably ever will. I personally know 3 or 4 people that lost their jobs due to COVID and not one of them wanted to go back when they were called. One tried to refuse it but was told by his employer that he would lose his unemployment. One didn't want to go back and put in for retirement last week. One was on my team and wanted to work but knew he would lose money by going back (and he was making about $80,000). He even told me on the phone one day that they were 'throwing money at me left and right for not working'. If you could double your income by staying home and relying on Pelosi to get the package extended would you be in a hurry to go back?

Currently the Dems want to give the unemployed and extra $600/week again under the new package. The Replublicans want to give them $200/week. I'm ok with getting everyone back to where they are making what they made before when they were working. Let's face it, it isn't their fault they are not working so get them back to even until this is over but don't double their wages.
No way somebody on PA unemployment + the $600 bucks would lose money if he went back to his 80k a year job. He's actually over 19K in the hole, maybe more if he has to pick up his own health insurance, maybe more yet if his company had a 401k with nice matching that he normally would participate in.
 
The Lefts favorite trick, if you cannot out debate the topic demonize the speaker, literally in this case. LOL
From her own Facebook page:

About DrStella
GOD'S WARRIOR PRINCESS (GWP) I shoot first and ask questions later. Join our other pages Fire Power Ministries Saved Sanctified and Wealthy Prayer Line # 712-432-0075 Pin 835555#. Daily 11pm-12.30am - US - CST Dr Stella - is a prophet of God to the nations. Called and trained as a God's Warrior Princess by the Holy Spirit. She is a true spiritual daughter of Dr D.K. Olukoya of Mountain of Fire and Miracles ministries. She is a successful physician with an active staffed practice in Alexandria, Louisiana. Her attitude toward demonic forces has been described as cut-throat, a warrior to the core . She believes her call as a prophetess is to teach God’s wounded army of believers violent warfare- her motto "the violent taketh it by force"! She is also a wealth transfer coach and believe that you can be saved anointed, fire brand and wealthy too. Dr Stella who grew up in a culture where open warfare with bold, generational demons and stubborn strongholds was commonplace, feels that violent prayer and open confrontation against the powers of darkness must be taught, learned and exercised by Christians for success and breakthroughs on various fronts in their personal lives, ministries and families. Dr Stella devotes her life and resources to teaching believers everywhere to identify the source of spiritual weakness, deception and defeat and to learn strategies of warfare to enable them to get and maintain their own freedom. Dr. Stella, has established a Christian resource center which supplies books, videos, CDs & other teaching materials to residents in her birthplace of Bali, Cameroon. Also, she does crusades, health fairs, fund an orphanage scholarship program and provide microeconomics to aid local small businesses. Dr Stella is the host of the Radio/TV program Fire Power.
 
And you have got to go to her other page:
https://www.facebook.com/FirePowerMinistriesWithDrStellaImmanuel/
I really encourage you all to follow her medical and spiritual advice to the letter. (including wearing a mask, it seems!)

Get that Fauci douche-bag out of there now! Dr. Immanuel has all the answers you all need. LOL
 
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The Lefts favorite trick, if you cannot out debate the topic demonize the speaker, literally in this case. LOL
Posting for a friend:
The ruthless businessman who built the biggest software empire in the world and was penalized by multiple governments for anti-competitive business practices, that uses his boyish looks to appear harmless, yep, when he donates millions and billions of dollars, that guy has no agenda...
 
I don't get your point?

The claims about hydroxychloroquine in that article are those of Dr. Harvey Risch. Who is he and why is it relevant? Its actually a pretty factual piece. I guess at the time he had access to what studies at the time were available and wanted to try anything that may work.
Crazy lady Dr. from Nigeria touts Hydroxy, tweeted by Trump, and she's a nut job, aliens and such (and maybe she is). Dude from Yale has a piece in a weekly magazine, not tweeted by Trump, showing Hydroxy success and it's hardly noticed.
 
One common theme.... Orange Man Bad. TDS is real.

He had a good press conference earlier this evening...I love it when he just up and ends it due to the media...
 
Crazy lady Dr. from Nigeria touts Hydroxy, tweeted by Trump, and she's a nut job, aliens and such (and maybe she is). Dude from Yale has a piece in a weekly magazine, not tweeted by Trump, showing Hydroxy success and it's hardly noticed.
But that is obvious. Nutjobs are much more entertaining. The yale doctor has his views that differ from the majority of the medical profession. So its not "newsworthy" any more than this post and yours is newsworthy.

But...... the President of the United States passing on the advice of Dr. Immanuel. Welllllll, that is newsworthy AND entertaining.

Look, I know Trump is a tweet addict and probably re-tweets before he reads the content or the source. This one was, I understand a re-tweet of Don Jr.'s original re-tweet. So Don Sr probably trusted his son would have carefully considered content and source before retweeting. And that my friend, is HIGHLY entertaining, you must admit.
 
Posting for a friend:


Not getting the point of your post?

In one post i’m questioning one of the richest most powerful men in the worlds motives for giving away billions and pondering what strings are attached.

and the other I am questioning those going after a doctor, from another culture and demonizing her personal beliefs.

So far from one another it is ridiculous to put them in the same post.
 
No way somebody on PA unemployment + the $600 bucks would lose money if he went back to his 80k a year job. He's actually over 19K in the hole, maybe more if he has to pick up his own health insurance, maybe more yet if his company had a 401k with nice matching that he normally would participate in.
He isn't in PA. He lives in Rhode Island. I have already calculated it out for PA and I think the breakeven was about $55-60,000 I think. No idea what Rhode Island is like but just repeating what he said. He works for the same company I do and know he is paying $1100/month for healthcare. Prior to that he did not have healthcare while he was unemployed so that may be why he had more in his pocket when he was unemployed
 
But that is obvious. Nutjobs are much more entertaining. The yale doctor has his views that differ from the majority of the medical profession. So its not "newsworthy" any more than this post and yours is newsworthy.

But...... the President of the United States passing on the advice of Dr. Immanuel. Welllllll, that is newsworthy AND entertaining.

Look, I know Trump is a tweet addict and probably re-tweets before he reads the content or the source. This one was, I understand a re-tweet of Don Jr.'s original re-tweet. So Don Sr probably trusted his son would have carefully considered content and source before retweeting. And that my friend, is HIGHLY entertaining, you must admit.
Very entertaining to watch the crazed reactions of the elites over a stupid tweet. Yep.
 

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