Should you buy a gun or not?

Agreed. To many of them life isn't as valuable as it is to the rest of the world. I say that meaning they are sort of de-sensitized to it and to them the risk doesn't outweigh the reward, especially if the act is about obtaining drugs or money to buy them.
 
Then why are these incidents in location that are traditionally anti gun and not in area where people are more likely to carry.
 
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Golfman25 said:
Then why are these incidents in location that are traditionally anti gun and not in area where people are more likely to carry.
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Good point but I think we are talking about 2 different demographics here. In your case I think you are talking more about mass shooters where I'm thinking of typical gangbangers that are in it for the financial reward (burglary, robbery, theft, turf war). In your case the motive is to kill. Gangbangers will do their thing wherever they are, in front of police stations, etc. They just don't care about any consequences.
 
Gofirstclass said:
I spend a fair amount of time reading the news--local, national and world news. One thing that has jumped out at me is the rise in violent crime. I doubt there are many large cities where violent crime isn't skyrocketing. Everything from homicides to auto thefts to road rage assaults etc.

I saw a video this morning about a segment on The View where one of the women on there said she'd recently (a) gone with her girlfriends to a gun store; (b) bought a 9mm handgun; (c) learned at a gun range how to shoot it; (d) shoots bi-weekly with said girlfriends; (e) took a classroom course on what's legal and what's not; and (f) took a gun safety test and passed it. Oh, BTW, she is a single, black, parent of a young boy who wanted to be able to protect her son.

When she first said all that the audience laughed, thinking she was joking. After she explained her thought processes the audience was silent. Apparently they could not understand why a single, female parent would want to buy a gun. Period.

So my question to you is this: Since we can't seem to come up with solutions on how to stop these criminals from victimizing us, how do you feel about owning/buying a firearm to protect yourself and those around you?
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I am 78 and was born into the Texas gun culture. By "culture", I don't mean persons following a trend because it's cool, but rather people who think no more of putting a gun in their belt than their wallet in their pocket.
Here is a piece of wisdom. Anyone can make a gun work - what is left out of the equation is the mind-set. Before you even think about having a gun for protection, you should sit-down and, being totally honest with yourself, determine under what circumstances you are prepared to kill another human being. If the answer is "never, I'll just use it to scare them", skip the gun. These people have had guns pointed at them before and are not necessarily impressed. If you decide that you could use the gun in certain situations, then at least you will know your limitations and how to act if/when the time comes.
 
HotDirk01 said:
I am 78 and was born into the Texas gun culture. By "culture", I don't mean persons following a trend because it's cool, but rather people who think no more of putting a gun in their belt than their wallet in their pocket.
Here is a piece of wisdom. Anyone can make a gun work - what is left out of the equation is the mind-set. Before you even think about having a gun for protection, you should sit-down and, being totally honest with yourself, determine under what circumstances you are prepared to kill another human being. If the answer is "never, I'll just use it to scare them", skip the gun. These people have had guns pointed at them before and are not necessarily impressed. If you decide that you could use the gun in certain situations, then at least you will know your limitations and how to act if/when the time comes.
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Dirk, truer words were never spoken. When I was a cop I worked with a couple of guys who told me, in confidence, they weren't sure if they could shoot someone, even to save another person's life. One of them also confided to me that when a "hot" call came out he sometimes found himself driving in the other direction or responding slowly.

I didn't snitch them off but suggested to both of them that they should REALLY think about whether or not they were in the wrong business. One of them later quit to pursue another life.
 
Gofirstclass said:
Dirk, truer words were never spoken. When I was a cop I worked with a couple of guys who told me, in confidence, they weren't sure if they could shoot someone, even to save another person's life. One of them also confided to me that when a "hot" call came out he sometimes found himself driving in the other direction or responding slowly.

I didn't snitch them off but suggested to both of them that they should REALLY think about whether or not they were in the wrong business. One of them later quit to pursue another life.
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Random question of the day - when you were working, did you mind folks using the term "cop"? Or did you even perhaps use it yourself? I was raised to understand that "cop" was a slang term for a law enforcement officer. Deputy, trooper, officer...anything but cop!

I would only use that term when referencing one of the greatest television shows ever made! :):)
 
Stee6043 said:
Random question of the day - when you were working, did you mind folks using the term "cop"? Or did you even perhaps use it yourself? I was raised to understand that "cop" was a slang term for a law enforcement officer. Deputy, trooper, officer...anything but cop!

I would only use that term when referencing one of the greatest television shows ever made! :):)
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Stee, the term cop never bothered me. Heck, I used it all the time. I worked in the era where cops were known as pigs so I wore a small (1/2" long) gold pig as a tie tack. It was quite the ice breaker because people realized I had a sense of humor.
 
Gofirstclass said:
Stee, the term cop never bothered me. Heck, I used it all the time. I worked in the era where cops were known as pigs so I wore a small (1/2" long) gold pig as a tie tack. It was quite the ice breaker because people realized I had a sense of humor.
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Bold. You're a wildman! :)

I always liked the "fuzz".
 
Gofirstclass said:
Hooooooly Sh!t. Be still my beating heart!

Jayhawk, I am forever indebted to you. :cool:
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IF you could only catch her, kinda like Roadrunner and the coyote.
You chase her, I will watch. What a show. Once you wear her down I’ll catch her and enjoy the spoils
 
dwna1a said:
IF you could only catch her, kinda like Roadrunner and the coyote.
You chase her, I will watch. What a show. Once you wear her down I’ll catch her and enjoy the spoils
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Hell, at my age and in my condition she could walk faster than I can run! Wouldn't even break a sweat with me chasing her. :D
 
Funny timing on this....my son is the head of a Chevy service department in TX. He called me to relate a funny tale of what happened at their work today.

Seems a guy wandered onto their property waving a gun and tried to carjack a car in line at their service dept. with a lady sitting in it. She refused to get out of the car so he walked away, still waving his gun in the air. He found an unlocked new car on the lot and, just about the time the cops showed up he took off.

They chased him about 40 miles north then he turned around and headed back toward the dealership. He'd gone about 3 miles back beyond the dealership when the cops got him with spike strips. He crashed the car then got out and started shooting at the cops.

Cops won that one 1 to 0. Score one for the good guys.

 
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