Official 330 Sundancer Thread

[Saverio]

that's where my inverter is, I have a remote panel on my main panel. it says it working when I turn it on??? im not sure what it feeds or how to get it to wok

There is space if you don't have the generator. See battery box in picture below. This is the starboard side of the bilge. The wires going into the fuse and up are the feeds for the inverter which is installed out of the bilge in the storage compartment immediately above that.

http://i98.photobucket.com/albums/l257/Creekwood_01/Boating/00000000
hey, could I get some good battery time with using two size 8d 12v deep cycles series wired to the housebank side?[/QUOTE]

 

[btye1]

Got my new swim platform installed about a month ago, but forgot to upload a picture. I purchased mine from SwimPlatformSuperstore. They were super easy to deal with. Installation was easy with 3 people.

 

[Capn Ron]

Mine was delivered last Friday. Got the same one. Mine goes on next week. Really looking forward to having it on. there. This will be the second swim platform Ive purchased from them. The first one we called it a room addition. Because that's what it felt like when we installed it.

 

[Creekwood]

Got my new swim platform installed about a month ago, but forgot to upload a picture. I purchased mine from SwimPlatformSuperstore. They were super easy to deal with. Installation was easy with 3 people.

That is HUGE. You could put a whole set of table and chairs on it!. I know that my OEM small platform digs down into the water on a slow cruise and just as you power up to go on plane. How does the much larger platform act? It looks to me like it might really dig down as you power up.

 

[capt steve]

had survey done today. not going to go into every detail yet, but one issue was outstanding that I arranged an engine guy to come down tomorrow to confirm / investigate.
so the issue was, when in "clutch" at idle , port v-drive was chattering pretty noticeably. stbd side was utter smooth and quiet. the marina guy taking us out said it was normal an vdrives do that, port engine has additional reversing due to proprotation etc. chatter went away when more throttle applied. Im not buying that all these do that and, boat manufacturers install them. ive been enough boats to know when something doesn't sound right. another theory was that the port engine idle was too low causing the discs to clatter at that low rpm.
any thoughts from the jury? if trans is bad, will prob be a deal breaker

 

[Creekwood]

had survey done today. not going to go into every detail yet, but one issue was outstanding that I arranged an engine guy to come down tomorrow to confirm / investigate.
so the issue was, when in "clutch" at idle , port v-drive was chattering pretty noticeably. stbd side was utter smooth and quiet. the marina guy taking us out said it was normal an vdrives do that, port engine has additional reversing due to proprotation etc. chatter went away when more throttle applied. Im not buying that all these do that and, boat manufacturers install them. ive been enough boats to know when something doesn't sound right. another theory was that the port engine idle was too low causing the discs to clatter at that low rpm.
any thoughts from the jury? if trans is bad, will prob be a deal breaker

There is a known issue with rattle on these v-drive transmissions when the engines need a tune up, new plugs or wires. This happens when they run a little rough and the vibration or stumble makes the plates rattle if the transmission is a bit older. (Quite a few posts about this here. Try searching for "rattle" rather than chatter). Did it shift smoothly and were there any rattles or loud whine or strange noises when at speed?

Mine does it every spring when I dewinterize until I can get it up to some full speed use to burn off all of the storage oil that fouls the plugs. Then it is fine for the entire season. It is more pronounced in reverse on mine when it happens. It does not always feel like the engine is stumbling so the engines may sound and feel fine, but not be running perfectly smooth. So it could be normal. Or it could be a problem. I would suggest you have them replace the plugs on both motors unless they have been done in the last two years and do a sea trial again. That will eliminate the normal issue.

 

[Sea Ray Mark]

had survey done today. not going to go into every detail yet, but one issue was outstanding that I arranged an engine guy to come down tomorrow to confirm / investigate.
so the issue was, when in "clutch" at idle , port v-drive was chattering pretty noticeably. stbd side was utter smooth and quiet. the marina guy taking us out said it was normal an vdrives do that, port engine has additional reversing due to proprotation etc. chatter went away when more throttle applied. Im not buying that all these do that and, boat manufacturers install them. ive been enough boats to know when something doesn't sound right. another theory was that the port engine idle was too low causing the discs to clatter at that low rpm.
any thoughts from the jury? if trans is bad, will prob be a deal breaker

I don't know exactly what the sound is this boat is making but what you're describing is a typical drive plate rattle. It's not technically the transmission but it's the drive plate that connects the trans to the engine. It's normal for these to sound like a coffee can full of rocks at idle and for the sound to disappear when a slight load is applied. I think your marina guy is correct but I also agree with what Creekwood said about a tune up. Even after a tune up you may still have the sound a little but I wouldn't be worried about it.

 

[CliffA]

for reference my V drives are totally quiet at all times......maybe an engine tune-up is all that is needed....

cliff

 

[Capn Ron]

had survey done today. not going to go into every detail yet, but one issue was outstanding that I arranged an engine guy to come down tomorrow to confirm / investigate.
so the issue was, when in "clutch" at idle , port v


I have the same issue with one of my drives. Always wondered what it was that was causing this. I had thought about having it looked at but now not sure its worth the cost to have some guy tell me its normal. Noise goes away when you put some load on it. That's good to hear. This boat is new to me so Im still learning the little quirks they have. First V-drive as well.

 

[btye1]

That is HUGE. You could put a whole set of table and chairs on it!. I know that my OEM small platform digs down into the water on a slow cruise and just as you power up to go on plane. How does the much larger platform act? It looks to me like it might really dig down as you power up.

I've not really noticed it all that much. Although, I did do the trim tab mod that everyone else here has been doing. My tabs are now 22x18.

And sorry about all the duplicate pictures, I didn't realize I was actually posting anything. My work has a firewall against basically any photo sharing service, so I couldn't see that I was posting multiple pictures, because on my screen, it was just blank. (Very Lame)

 

[Alegria]

had survey done today. not going to go into every detail yet, but one issue was outstanding that I arranged an engine guy to come down tomorrow to confirm / investigate.
so the issue was, when in "clutch" at idle , port v-drive was chattering pretty noticeably. stbd side was utter smooth and quiet. the marina guy taking us out said it was normal an vdrives do that, port engine has additional reversing due to proprotation etc. chatter went away when more throttle applied. Im not buying that all these do that and, boat manufacturers install them. ive been enough boats to know when something doesn't sound right. another theory was that the port engine idle was too low causing the discs to clatter at that low rpm.
any thoughts from the jury? if trans is bad, will prob be a deal breaker

Our 330 did that pronounced rattle, for the first 2 seasons. Also it hesitated when putting it into gear. I changed the transmission fluid and filters and that fixed the hesitation. Tune up greatly improved the rattle, I believe that the others here are correct on the reason for the rattle. Even after all these changes the one transmission would make the sound in reverse. No issues on performance or anything else for the 8 years we had it..

 

[capt steve]

thanks all. yes all your input is in line with what ive been told. this makes me feel much better now I can turn my attention to the other less important items! will have that motor tuned up and trans serviced. the trans shifted smoothly otherwise. surveyor did note that it felt like that motor had a miss , so I think tune up is in order. still having an engine guy give it a good exam today. onward and upward !!

 

[capt steve]

just got off the phone with the engine guy. he says it sounds like a drive / flex plate issue with possible broken springs. pretty much a $1000 o slide motor back and repair. he didn't seem to think tune up issues would cause that kind of noise. so now im at a crossroads

 

[Creekwood]

just got off the phone with the engine guy. he says it sounds like a drive / flex plate issue with possible broken springs. pretty much a $1000 o slide motor back and repair. he didn't seem to think tune up issues would cause that kind of noise. so now im at a crossroads

You can put that back to the seller and tell him to have it repaired as a condition of the sale (assuming there are no other issues that concern you). Or you could walk away.

 

[capt steve]

You can put that back to the seller and tell him to have it repaired as a condition of the sale (assuming there are no other issues that concern you). Or you could walk away.

update - got owner to reduce by 2k. I will first have the yard do complete tune up/ trans service. check engine alignment. hopefully that knocks it out. if not , I can pursue further but at this price leaves me more room. looks like I will be a "new to me" owner soon!

 

[Saverio]

wow the tabs look huge....
how do they work....
my boat has the curved tabs similar to drop tabs.. the bow comes down pretty easy.. I know on my 390 it made a huge difference boat went quicker and planed faster....

I've not really noticed it all that much. Although, I did do the trim tab mod that everyone else here has been doing. My tabs are now 22x18.

And sorry about all the duplicate pictures, I didn't realize I was actually posting anything. My work has a firewall against basically any photo sharing service, so I couldn't see that I was posting multiple pictures, because on my screen, it was just blank. (Very Lame)

 

[btye1]

wow the tabs look huge....
how do they work....
my boat has the curved tabs similar to drop tabs.. the bow comes down pretty easy.. I know on my 390 it made a huge difference boat went quicker and planed faster....

I definitely get on plane at lower rpms and can maintain a lower speed, also keeps the bow down. These boats have always ridden bow high anyways.

 

[capt steve]

can you guys point me to the TV upgrade threads? for some reason the search is not yielding any of the key words!

 

[capt steve]

There is space if you don't have the generator. See battery box in picture below. This is the starboard side of the bilge. The wires going into the fuse and up are the feeds for the inverter which is installed out of the bilge in the storage compartment immediately above that.
http://i98.photobucket.com/albums/l257/Creekwood_01/Boating/00000000
update after survey- my boat did have a genny ,but was removed. the battery leads for it are still there under the cockpit seat. so right now I have two battery switches there in the compartment. I have two gr24 batteries in series (pos to pos / neg to neg) or is that parallel? these are in the port side ER fwd of the vac flush. the other single batt is under the cockpit seat. I assume the two in the ER are port engine start / house? and the other single is stbd engine start? I would like to purchase two of the big 8D deep cycles (225 amp hour each) and install them where the gen batt used to be and use that as a dedicated house bank . what change in wiring would I need to do? of the two battery switches , is one just for that gen battery? how do I wire that for house load. with two 225 amp hour batts , that is combined 450 , I assume that plenty for a good weekend on the hook with average load?

 

[Creekwood]

update after survey- my boat did have a genny ,but was removed. The battery leads for it are still there under the cockpit seat. So right now i have two battery switches there in the compartment. I have two gr24 batteries in series (pos to pos / neg to neg) or is that parallel? These are in the port side er fwd of the vac flush. The other single batt is under the cockpit seat. I assume the two in the er are port engine start / house? And the other single is stbd engine start? I would like to purchase two of the big 8d deep cycles (225 amp hour each) and install them where the gen batt used to be and use that as a dedicated house bank . What change in wiring would i need to do? Of the two battery switches , is one just for that gen battery? How do i wire that for house load. With two 225 amp hour batts , that is combined 450 , i assume that plenty for a good weekend on the hook with average load?

Have you considered putting a generator in if it is already set up and wired for one? That is what I would do in your position. Too hard to diagnose a non OEM setup over the web. A marine electronics mechanic can sort it out easily and ensure it is done right.

I have done some DIY but some things I leave to the pros. When I had my house bank upgraded to a pair of golf cart batteries I had the marina do it. The price they charged me was not that much more than what it would have taken me to buy it all since their pricing was good on the wiring and battery box.