Official 330 Sundancer Thread

[Creekwood]

Thanks,I figured that part out,but there is zero room between the deck and the speaker. Any idea how they are held in? Are they screwed from the bottom or top? There's got to be a way to take that panel down,as the port wiper motor is jammed in there too.

I replaced mine a few years ago. THe fabric covers are held in by nuts if I recall. The bolts are attached to the panels so they go up into the ceiling panel and the bolts go on top. I used a small box wrench and turned them about 1/16 of a turn at a time until I could turn with finger tips. I think I took out the fluorescent bulb and maybe something else in the way too? A couple of the bolts were quite hard (tedious) to remove. Lots of skin off the knuckles from jamming my hands back there too.

 

[sr330daguy]

I replaced mine a few years ago. THe fabric covers are held in by nuts if I recall. The bolts are attached to the panels so they go up into the ceiling panel and the bolts go on top. I used a small box wrench and turned them about 1/16 of a turn at a time until I could turn with finger tips. I think I took out the fluorescent bulb and maybe something else in the way too? A couple of the bolts were quite hard (tedious) to remove. Lots of skin off the knuckles from jamming my hands back there too.

Thank you, let the fun begin.

 

[Golfman25]

I have read the whole thread. So the admiral said we need a new boat. I really like the 95-99 330. The cockpit layout seems to work really well. She likes the built in seating. The cabin is functional and the side decks imo are impotant.

So here's the thing. I'd be moving from a 1980 Chris craft that I have had for 15 years. So I already did the 20 year old boat thing. The Chris is really simple. But now every year it seems like there is more to keep up and maintain. I'm not as young as I used to be.

So any advice? How is the maintence? How are things holding up? I suppose I could go newer and more expensive but I haven't seen anything really as well laid out as the 330s. Thanks in advance.

 

[tdschafer]

Thanks,I figured that part out,but there is zero room between the deck and the speaker. Any idea how they are held in? Are they screwed from the bottom or top? There's got to be a way to take that panel down,as the port wiper motor is jammed in there too.

There are a couple of wingnuts that hold the speaker cover on from above, or at least they wete on my boat. Those are accessed by removing the fluorescent light covers to either side. Once you drop the speaker covers, the speakers can be removed from underneath. I believe the OEM speakers are 5 1/4". I believe that I posted pictures of these a couple of years ago. I distinctly remember someone making a hand model comment about them! ☺

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[Creekwood]

There are a couple of wingnuts that hold the speaker cover on from above, or at least they wete on my boat. Those are accessed by removing the fluorescent light covers to either side. Once you drop the speaker covers, the speakers can be removed from underneath. I believe the OEM speakers are 5 1/4". I believe that I posted pictures of these a couple of years ago. I distinctly remember someone making a hand model comment about them! ☺

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Now that you say it is wingnuts, that sounds familiar. I said bolts in my earlier post, but they may be wingnuts. In any event, it was VERY tight getting my hands in with arms held overhead. That part I do remember very well.

 

[sr330daguy]

There are a couple of wingnuts that hold the speaker cover on from above, or at least they wete on my boat. Those are accessed by removing the fluorescent light covers to either side. Once you drop the speaker covers, the speakers can be removed from underneath. I believe the OEM speakers are 5 1/4". I believe that I posted pictures of these a couple of years ago. I distinctly remember someone making a hand model comment about them! ☺

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Thanks Todd

 

[capt steve]

hi everybody. so its been quite a search for me thus far but I have recently landed a very nice 95 330da after wading through numerous 370/330/290's! im still convinced that when one is on the "search" if you don't force things, the right one WILL come to you. it has the 350's , very clean in and out with no soft spots to found. canvas and upholstery great shape. no generator which I am not too concerned about. my plan is to increase the house bank of batteries, but I have a charging question. if I spend the night on the hook, I would obviously have to charge the house bank by running one of the engines. how long would charging take via alternator vs. using generator / charger. also are there any other charging options such as higher output alternator etc?

 

[capt steve]

well , i have a survey lined up for 6-14-17. as i have been reading through numerous threads trying to gain knowledge, i realize that the boat im looking at must have the old "log" exhaust system. i assume this is the horizontal fiberglass manifold that runs athwartships by the transom. so question is; when / what conditions were causing these to possibly ingest water? and what is the fix and how much would it cost to be converted

thnk

 

[Creekwood]

hi everybody. so its been quite a search for me thus far but I have recently landed a very nice 95 330da after wading through numerous 370/330/290's! im still convinced that when one is on the "search" if you don't force things, the right one WILL come to you. it has the 350's , very clean in and out with no soft spots to found. canvas and upholstery great shape. no generator which I am not too concerned about. my plan is to increase the house bank of batteries, but I have a charging question. if I spend the night on the hook, I would obviously have to charge the house bank by running one of the engines. how long would charging take via alternator vs. using generator / charger. also are there any other charging options such as higher output alternator etc?

Too long. Not an effective way to charge on the water. With a 60amp alternator you might get 30 or 40 for charging at idle. You would have to idle for hours to charge the batteries. That would generate a lot of noise, burn a lot of fuel and produce a lot of carbon monoxide. Not workable and not a good idea.

On my 97 (I have no generator) I installed a pair of 6v high capacity golf cart batteries (US battery 2200s) in series as the port bank (in the bilge where the genset would have been.. Then I switched the house power feed from the starboard switch to the port one. The stock setup uses the starboard engine bank (the 2 batteries under the seat) as the house power feed. I have also replaced all the lighting with LED's. I also replaced the Norcold fridge when it died with a NovaKool which uses a lot less power too. That gives me a lot of "on the hook" battery life. I have gone 3 days without charging as long as I don't use the inverter much.

 

[Creekwood]

well , i have a survey lined up for 6-14-17. as i have been reading through numerous threads trying to gain knowledge, i realize that the boat im looking at must have the old "log" exhaust system. i assume this is the horizontal fiberglass manifold that runs athwartships by the transom. so question is; when / what conditions were causing these to possibly ingest water? and what is the fix and how much would it cost to be converted

It's 22 years old. If ingestion has not happened its a non-issue for that boat. There is quite a bit of posting here about the issue. It was with the 380hp horizon MPI optional engines. The risk for you is water ingestion from rusted out manifolds. So in your mechanical engine survey have them check the manifolds. They don't last long in salt water. Much longer in seasonal fresh water (my boat is on its original manifolds and they are fine).

 

[capt steve]

Too long. Not an effective way to charge on the water. With a 60amp alternator you might get 30 or 40 for charging at idle. You would have to idle for hours to charge the batteries. That would generate a lot of noise, burn a lot of fuel and produce a lot of carbon monoxide. Not workable and not a good idea.

On my 97 (I have no generator) I installed a pair of 6v high capacity golf cart batteries (US battery 2200s) in series as the port bank (in the bilge where the genset would have been.. Then I switched the house power feed from the starboard switch to the port one. The stock setup uses the starboard engine bank (the 2 batteries under the seat) as the house power feed. I have also replaced all the lighting with LED's. I also replaced the Norcold fridge when it died with a NovaKool which uses a lot less power too. That gives me a lot of "on the hook" battery life. I have gone 3 days without charging as long as I don't use the inverter much.

thanks for the input. my last boat was a 42' liveaboard trawler and I had a bank of 8 x 6v like you said going through a heart interface inverter / charger. I thought about this , but I wasn't sure if space would allow vs a couple of regular deep cycles. inverter / charger would be something for the future when more funds are available. I would have to feel it out first. I know the portable genny thing has been beat to death , but if just deployed for an hour of morning charging , then stowed, it may not be too redneck. I would be open to your setup as it sounds sensible.

 

[Creekwood]

thanks for the input. my last boat was a 42' liveaboard trawler and I had a bank of 8 x 6v like you said going through a heart interface inverter / charger. I thought about this , but I wasn't sure if space would allow vs a couple of regular deep cycles. inverter / charger would be something for the future when more funds are available. I would have to feel it out first. I know the portable genny thing has been beat to death , but if just deployed for an hour of morning charging , then stowed, it may not be too redneck. I would be open to your setup as it sounds sensible.

There is space if you don't have the generator. See battery box in picture below. This is the starboard side of the bilge. The wires going into the fuse and up are the feeds for the inverter which is installed out of the bilge in the storage compartment immediately above that.

 

[Alegria]

I agree with Creekwood. The 7.4L engines either fuel injected (MPI) or carb that I researched don't have enough evidence to support the change. I would be more concerned with the mixer elbow (elbow on top of the manifold) and manifolds. I would be less concerned if the manifolds are closed cooling (antifreeze circulating to cool them). Also would be concerned with the gaskets between the elbow and the manifold, More so for loss of coolant over time as the gasket degrades.

I would spend money on the water pump, mech fuel pump, and servicing the raw water cooling loop along with the transmission , oil, and engine heat exchanger...

Good luck, other then the deck and sealing up areas that have come loose over the last 22 years the mechanics on this vintage are pretty tried and true...

Good Luck!!!

 

[Biglurp]

Going to look at a 98 with 7.4 mpi's tonight. Boat has a survey from 5 yrs ago. Would you still get a survey, or rely on the past one?

 

[Molson]

Going to look at a 98 with 7.4 mpi's tonight. Boat has a survey from 5 yrs ago. Would you still get a survey, or rely on the past one?

I would use it as reference, but still order a new one. You don't know if the old surveyor had ties to the buyer or seller and swayed the survey. A lot can happen in 5 years.

 

[Underwater254]

THOUGHTS?? 2001 340 with 8.1s been out of water 2 years 180 hrs. Looks solid what to look for in motors and drives? Salt water and supposably not closed??

 

[Almightys]

Why are these 340 posts in the 330 thread?


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[capt steve]

There is space if you don't have the generator. See battery box in picture below. This is the starboard side of the bilge. The wires going into the fuse and up are the feeds for the inverter which is installed out of the bilge in the storage compartment immediately above that.

http://i98.photobucket.com/albums/l257/Creekwood_01/Boating/00000000
hey, could I get some good battery time with using two size 8d 12v deep cycles series wired to the housebank side?

 

[Biglurp]

Going to look at a 98 with 7.4 mpi's tonight. Boat has a survey from 5 yrs ago. Would you still get a survey, or rely on the past one?

What a piece of crap.. Owner said mint condition.. pictures must have been from when boat was new. Bow deck totally soft. No electronics work. Motors ran rough, ice maker dead. I should have done more homework on that one

 

[capt steve]

amazing how that works isn't it. the last one I saw like that , upon leaving after a 3 hour drive , I said to the broker WTF? the pictures totally misrepresent the boat. thing was just laying out uncovered - 97 370da , cockpit was totally trashed. the"owner" , the son of deceased , had no Idea about what was realistic. didn't even entertain my offer. oh well, I warned them that another season left "in state" they would be looking at a junk job. owner of the facility didn't care cause apparently the mother was paying storage. sad