Official 215 Express Thread

Discussion in 'Sport Boats' started by andy k, Apr 6, 2009.

  1. OllieC

    OllieC Active Member

    520
    Mar 11, 2013
    MinniSoCold
    2005 Weekender 215
    Mercruiser 5.0 mpi, Bravo III
    Rgory - you shouldn't have any water in your bilge.....should be bone dry unless you put it there yourself.
     
  2. Rgory

    Rgory New Member

    21
    Sep 11, 2016
    Dubuque
    1999 215 Express Cruiser
    5.7 Merc EFI
    OllieC,

    I am super new to boating and super paranoid that something is going to go wrong so I always check the bilge after we have been out for a bit and it is always dry. The one exception was the day where we were in and out of the water a lot and that water worked its way down below. Thank you for your hope.

    Curious us if anyone has any insights on anchoring technique
     
  3. H2ONUT

    H2ONUT Active Member

    Nov 26, 2006
    Shelton, CT
    2000 215EC
    5.0 EFI Mercruiser Alpha
    What kind of anchoring do you plan on? Rafting up, stern to beach, solo, tidal, deep water, shallow water... lots of variables depending on what your doing.


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  4. Rgory

    Rgory New Member

    21
    Sep 11, 2016
    Dubuque
    1999 215 Express Cruiser
    5.7 Merc EFI
    Mark,

    It is mainly shallow water anchoring in bays or on the river. I cloud the vet the old setup to stick last year, it seemed to skip along the bottom even with all of the rode payed out. I also had two unsuccessful anchoring attempts on Lake Michigan in shallow water 8-20'. The new ground tackle held the boat great this past weeekend on Lake Mendota in 8' of water, I just didn't like how the chain could easily damage the bow. Should I deploy the anchor and chain over the bow rail? What about during retrieval, what is a good technique to avoid damaging the gel coat
     
  5. H2ONUT

    H2ONUT Active Member

    Nov 26, 2006
    Shelton, CT
    2000 215EC
    5.0 EFI Mercruiser Alpha
    I deploy and retrieve under the bow rail. I also kneel on the bow, I never stand upright. I only have 10' of 1/4" chain. Keeping the rope and chain off the rub rail and glass is just a learning curve. Sometimes it can't be avoided depending on conditions. Sounds stupid but practice different positions while on the trailer in the driveway. It's a calm, no pressure situation. It also helps if you can have someone bump the boat forward while the anchor is being retrieved. Patience is your friend, panic will always lead to bad things. Hope this helps...


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  6. Buckeye Boater

    Buckeye Boater Member

    689
    Jun 19, 2007
    Wooster, OH
    215 Weekender 2006
    Merc 5.0 MPI 260 HP
    After tying off the anchor on the bow cleat, you could run the remaining rode along the side of the boat (outside the bow rail) to a mid-ship or stern cleat. When ready to depart, untie from the bow cleat and retrieve the anchor over the side of the boat. When we do this, we will then store the anchor on the deck, usually on an old towel to protect against scratching. It fits nicely under one of the jump seats next to the engine hatch.
     
  7. H2ONUT

    H2ONUT Active Member

    Nov 26, 2006
    Shelton, CT
    2000 215EC
    5.0 EFI Mercruiser Alpha



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  8. Lazy Daze

    Lazy Daze Well-Known Member TECHNICAL Contributor

    Apr 21, 2009
    PA
    Various
    Various
    A 1'-ish piece of black, 3/4" heater hose (kinda blends into the SS rail)... Slit it, then slip it on the rail, just off center on a straight part of the rail. You won't be able to pull the chain over top of it because the hose will rotate around the rail (zip ties can help). But it does allow you to pull the chain up one arm's length, rest the chain on the rail, drop the arm's length of chain into the locker, then repeat. It at least helps to protect things. Once I get to the rope, I step back and pull the rope right over the rail (sort of like a bow roller). I never removed the hose - left it there all the time. Speaking of bow rollers, adding one (or an anchor roller) is another idea.

    Just thinking outloud here... Another "quick fix" might be to cut a slit (maybe 1/2") in a 1" or 1-1/4" piece of PVC. The 1/2" slit should open up enough to slide over the bow rail. Try a smaller slit, first (or maybe it has to be bigger?). It's possible that the slit will be narrow enough that as the PVC rotates around the rail (as the chain is pulled over it), that the chain will never actually contact the rail. Maybe some zip ties or hose clamps can be used to squeeze the slit closed some, too. Sort of a "poor man's bow roller". I dunno - like I said, just a thought. Another thought... if you softened the PVC slightly with a heat gun, it would become more flexible and you could definitely use a smaller slit. Do it just right (amount of heat), and it should spring right back to it's original slit opening. Or use a little more heat and squeeze the slit closed.
     
  9. Rgory

    Rgory New Member

    21
    Sep 11, 2016
    Dubuque
    1999 215 Express Cruiser
    5.7 Merc EFI
    All good replies, I appreciate everyone's help and have some work to do. I think my poor experience last year has just left me with some bad memories. I will start in he driveway and on the trailer and then may head out on a quiet day when I don't have to worry about an audience.

    I also find it odd that beaching is not a good practice but it seems everyone beaches their boat at the sandbar.
     
  10. OllieC

    OllieC Active Member

    520
    Mar 11, 2013
    MinniSoCold
    2005 Weekender 215
    Mercruiser 5.0 mpi, Bravo III
    I'm assuming you have an anchor locker at the bow. If you're worried about chain rubbing on your gel coat while retrieving your anchor, install a bow roller. This type of bow roller however is not designed to be used to hold the boat while anchored, it will bend if there are any waves. It is designed for deployment and retrieval. Saves the gel coat and the back.


    The scope of the anchor rode is typically 7:1 - seven feet of rode for every 1ft of water.


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  11. H2ONUT

    H2ONUT Active Member

    Nov 26, 2006
    Shelton, CT
    2000 215EC
    5.0 EFI Mercruiser Alpha
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  12. OllieC

    OllieC Active Member

    520
    Mar 11, 2013
    MinniSoCold
    2005 Weekender 215
    Mercruiser 5.0 mpi, Bravo III
    Here's some pics if you haven't seen them in the other thread, of my infinity carpet in a Weekender 215. (note: the center carpet looks a little crooked towards the back because it isn't snapped - I had to reattach the snap to the floor and was waiting for the caulk to dry.)

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  13. H2ONUT

    H2ONUT Active Member

    Nov 26, 2006
    Shelton, CT
    2000 215EC
    5.0 EFI Mercruiser Alpha
    Yes! Looks awesome!! Was it less or more then the replacement carpet?


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  14. OllieC

    OllieC Active Member

    520
    Mar 11, 2013
    MinniSoCold
    2005 Weekender 215
    Mercruiser 5.0 mpi, Bravo III

    That I do not know. I am assuming its more.

    I knew what I wanted and didn't price anything else out. The big thing, not just the look, is the drying and cleanup ability of this style of carpet. Last year on the river with family and friend when we overnighted, my carpet was soaked all night and into the morning. The Infinity should eliminate that. Plus, kids eating Cheetos, drinks being spilled, etc. should just wipe right up.
     
  15. CliffA

    CliffA Well-Known Member GOLD Sponsor

    Dec 29, 2009
    Lake Norman, NC
    2001 Sea Ray 340DA
    Name: 'Happy Place'
    4.5kW West. Generator
    Purchased Nov. 2014
    Fresh Water Use
    Twin Merc. 6.2L (MPI)
    Raw Water Cooled
    V-Drive Transmissions
    Looks very nice......this brings back a lot of good memories of when we had our 215EC.....we really enjoyed that boat.....

    cliff
     
  16. tjsoltes

    tjsoltes New Member

    1
    Jun 21, 2017
    North Myrtle Beach SC
    YEAR: 2000
    TYPE: Power
    BRAND: Four Winns
    CATEGORY: Cuddy Cabins
    MODEL: Sundowner 215
    LENGTH (LO
    YEAR: 2000
    BRAND: Volvo Penta
    MODEL: 5.0 Gi
    SIZE: 250 hp
    HOURS: 155
    FUEL TYPE: Gasoline
    I have a 215 sundowner and I have looked on the internet everywhere I could think for an answer and can't find it. I want to run a electrical conduit through the existing PVC conduit that starts in the engine compartment. I found that the pvc runs in the floor but can't find the other end. There is more than enough room to do what I want I just can't figure out where the other end is. It's a 2000 four winns 215 sundowner.
     
  17. OllieC

    OllieC Active Member

    520
    Mar 11, 2013
    MinniSoCold
    2005 Weekender 215
    Mercruiser 5.0 mpi, Bravo III
    Thanks Cliff. I'd rather be in your boat......pun intended.

    I should have my SeaDek on by next Tuesday and may snap pictures when she is on Lake Superior the week of the 3rd. I just wish I had an updated steering wheel to help finish it off, but I've spent to much on her this year. The Admiral is a little weary.
     
  18. Rgory

    Rgory New Member

    21
    Sep 11, 2016
    Dubuque
    1999 215 Express Cruiser
    5.7 Merc EFI
    I recently replaced my freshwater pump which was cracked when I bought the boat. Is it normal for the pump to run each time a tap is used? I am assuming so as there is no pressure tank, I just wanted to be sure because I know the pump had a pressure switch.
     
  19. CliffA

    CliffA Well-Known Member GOLD Sponsor

    Dec 29, 2009
    Lake Norman, NC
    2001 Sea Ray 340DA
    Name: 'Happy Place'
    4.5kW West. Generator
    Purchased Nov. 2014
    Fresh Water Use
    Twin Merc. 6.2L (MPI)
    Raw Water Cooled
    V-Drive Transmissions
    yes, that is normal.....once the faucet is shut off the pump will run long enough (couple seconds) to pressurize the system and will shut off until a faucet is opened again.....

    cliff
     
  20. H2ONUT

    H2ONUT Active Member

    Nov 26, 2006
    Shelton, CT
    2000 215EC
    5.0 EFI Mercruiser Alpha
    Dennis, hopefully you'll see this...

    Every now and then while at idle speed while under way the RPMs will pick up about 200 and then settle back in to normal RPM. It doesn't do it all the time but is getting to be more frequent... is this the IAC starting to go?


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