I can't be the only one fascinated by this Titan sub ordeal

You folks know that the five people on board were not listed as passengers and they labeled them differently for liability purposes
 
Too soon for jokes is seems :D ……. Although that’s pretty close

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Some thoughtful info based on a "transcript" of communications with the Titan.

 
Some additional discussion based on the parts recovered.

 
km1125 said:
Wonder where he's coming up with any of that, especially "He said those onboard suffered through between 48 and 71 seconds of the fall before the craft failed."?? Where did the calcs come from? How does he know at what point they lost electrical power?? Pretty poor reporting from a "journalist"!
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I'm pretty sure the sub to ship communications are an accurate description of what happened. They reported their depth at various intervals and reported that the RTM (real time management) system started flashing red. The timing coincides with SOSUS picking up the sound of the sub imploding 15-20 minutes later. I'm sure they will synchronize the clocks for a final report but it looks like from the first indicator to when it when boom was 15-20 minutes.

In that time.....multiple messages reflected that they had dropped their ballast and the sub's frame but still were not ascending. Worst they reported that the "crackling sounds" were getting worse.

As to human behavior......people tend to move away from dangerous "crackling noises" which would have put the sub in a nose down position with people piled on top of each other and no way to balance the load without using the thrusters. At that point......it was headed for the bottom.

I had hoped for their sakes it just imploded and no one knew what happened. That does not appear to be the case. Since the transponder switched off before the implosion was detected......most engineers have surmised that they lost power in advance of the implosion. The loss of power meant no thrusters to right the sub from a nose down position.
 
PlayDate said:
I'm pretty sure the sub to ship communications are an accurate description of what happened. They reported their depth at various intervals and reported that the RTM (real time management) system started flashing red. The timing coincides with SOSUS picking up the sound of the sub imploding 15-20 minutes later. I'm sure they will synchronize the clocks for a final report but it looks like from the first indicator to when it when boom was 15-20 minutes.

In that time.....multiple messages reflected that they had dropped their ballast and the sub's frame but still were not ascending. Worst they reported that the "crackling sounds" were getting worse.

As to human behavior......people tend to move away from dangerous "crackling noises" which would have put the sub in a nose down position with people piled on top of each other and no way to balance the load without using the thrusters. At that point......it was headed for the bottom.

I had hoped for their sakes it just imploded and no one knew what happened. That does not appear to be the case. Since the transponder switched off before the implosion was detected......most engineers have surmised that they lost power in advance of the implosion. The loss of power meant no thrusters to right the sub from a nose down position.
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Are you basing all that off the transcript that's been floating around the Internet the last couple days or have you seen something that's been validated? I do believe that they dropped some ballast and were heading back up, but not sure if any of the rest of those transcripts have merit.
 
PlayDate said:
I'm pretty sure the sub to ship communications are an accurate description of what happened. They reported their depth at various intervals and reported that the RTM (real time management) system started flashing red. The timing coincides with SOSUS picking up the sound of the sub imploding 15-20 minutes later. I'm sure they will synchronize the clocks for a final report but it looks like from the first indicator to when it when boom was 15-20 minutes.

In that time.....multiple messages reflected that they had dropped their ballast and the sub's frame but still were not ascending. Worst they reported that the "crackling sounds" were getting worse.

As to human behavior......people tend to move away from dangerous "crackling noises" which would have put the sub in a nose down position with people piled on top of each other and no way to balance the load without using the thrusters. At that point......it was headed for the bottom.

I had hoped for their sakes it just imploded and no one knew what happened. That does not appear to be the case. Since the transponder switched off before the implosion was detected......most engineers have surmised that they lost power in advance of the implosion. The loss of power meant no thrusters to right the sub from a nose down position.
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The folks over at Snopes seem to think the reported "communications" are a total fabrication.

https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/titan-sub-transcript/
 
Stee6043 said:
The folks over at Snopes seem to think the reported "communications" are a total fabrication.

https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/titan-sub-transcript/
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I don't trust Snopes for anything after Covid.

In regards to the transmissions......pretty sure that James Cameron is a reliable source after 33 dives to the Titanic. His comments indicated that he had seen the communications and had received confirmation from the Navy on the day it happened. It may not have been what is "floating" around the internet. But to quote Cameron: "they were at 3,500 meters and had an emergency......dropped their ballast and were trying to ascend."

He also added the sub had a transponder on it that was separately powered. His assumption was that when the sub imploded ......it was destroyed. So with those data points from the start of trouble to when the transponder was destroyed allegedly accounts for 15-20 minutes.

I am sure by now the USCG and NTSB know exactly what happened especially if they were able to recover the video cameras on board.
 
km1125 said:
Wonder where he's coming up with any of that, especially "He said those onboard suffered through between 48 and 71 seconds of the fall before the craft failed."?? Where did the calcs come from? How does he know at what point they lost electrical power?? Pretty poor reporting from a "journalist"!
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98% of statistics and theories are made up numbers and ideas. :)
 
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