Fuel Prices!

Discussion in 'General Discussion' started by CV-23, Feb 16, 2012.

  1. MonacoMike

    MonacoMike Well-Known Member SILVER Sponsor

    Sep 15, 2009
    Indiana lakes and Lake Michigan
    2000 Cruisers 3870
    97 270 Sundancer
    85 Sea Ray Monaco 197
    8.2 Mercs,
    7.4 BII
    260hp Alpha 1
    "MRC President and Newsbusters publisher Brent Bozell predicted on Feb. 23 that gas prices will keep climbing and the media will keep downplaying that fact to help President Barack Obama.

    “The prices are going to continue to escalate and the media are gonna continue to downplay it. This is the kind of story they don't want to cover. It goes against the narrative of the 2012 election and they're gonna do everything they can to get this guy elected. Period,” Bozell said..."

    "Bozell explained, “Think about this: when the prices in 2008, when the price of gas hit $3.56-a-gallon, which was you know sky-high for George Bush, in the preceding month there were 97 network news stories. When the gas prices hit $3.56 under Barack Obama, which was Feb. 20, you look at the preceding month there were 21 stories."

    http://newsbusters.org/blogs/nb-sta...es-will-continue-escalate-media-will-downplay
     
  2. susanandlance

    susanandlance New Member

    Feb 10, 2011
    Florida
    2005 Fountain 27, 496HO power, towed by Chevrolet Duramax HD 4x4
    496HO, 425 HP
    And I remember under GWB when fuel hit 4.00 a gallon, and that was 3+ yrs ago. Drill Baby Drill won't fix this problem, we are already shipping a ton of fuel out of this country as it is.......:huh:
     
  3. Alegria

    Alegria Well-Known Member

    Feb 21, 2009
    Lancaster,PA Boat: -Sue Creek, MD
    2000 410 DA
    3126 CAT
    Ditto on that commute! I'm at 135 a day... It is killer... I like MM's post. Very interesting how this is being portrayed in the media. $3.56 a gallon in 2008 is the same as 2012... Oh but wait there is so much prosperity that it's OK now.... with unemployment down to a record low of 8.3%. LOL another interesting thing I noticed last night that the reporter reading the number rounded it down to 8%... I am sure under another president it would have been rounded up or even better reported as hovering below 9%....
     
  4. Ka1oxd

    Ka1oxd New Member

    Nov 19, 2009
    Connecticut River at Portland Riverside Marina
    1988 Sea Ray 340 Sundancer
    7.4l inboards
    And even if we were 100% only oil found in the US was supplying the US people, Corporations would be selling it to the highest bidder, speculators will be turning their contracts over and over to make profit every time they trade. This is nothing more than greed unchecked, loss of morals, and loss of ethics. IT is all about the money, nothing else.
     
  5. MonacoMike

    MonacoMike Well-Known Member SILVER Sponsor

    Sep 15, 2009
    Indiana lakes and Lake Michigan
    2000 Cruisers 3870
    97 270 Sundancer
    85 Sea Ray Monaco 197
    8.2 Mercs,
    7.4 BII
    260hp Alpha 1
    We need some capitalism remedial training in this country, BAD.

    MM
     
  6. Four Suns

    Four Suns Head Pot Stirrer TECHNICAL Contributor

    Oct 4, 2006
    Williamsburg, VA
    2003 480 DB
    Zodiac ProJet Dinghy
    Yamaha 110vx WaveRunner
    QSM-11 Diesels
    Isn't there some quote somewhere where about "You can't fix stupid."

    I would like to amend it with "You can't fix stupid but they can unionize"
     
  7. Four Suns

    Four Suns Head Pot Stirrer TECHNICAL Contributor

    Oct 4, 2006
    Williamsburg, VA
    2003 480 DB
    Zodiac ProJet Dinghy
    Yamaha 110vx WaveRunner
    QSM-11 Diesels
    So if a private business sells their product to the "highest payer" they are "greed unchecked"?

    I listened to Obama-tard and his talk today. I'm still trying to figure out how taxing the oil companies more reduces fuel prices... but I obviously have less of an education and job experience than he does.
     
    Last edited: Feb 23, 2012
  8. spfortjohn

    spfortjohn New Member

    640
    Jul 31, 2011
    Orange Beach, AL
    2014 219FS Keywest CC
    F200 Yamaha Outboard

    Who do they think will pay the taxes if the oil companies are taxed more. You and Me! Everytime Obama oens his mouth I want to throw up
     
  9. Woody

    Woody Well-Known Member PLATINUM Sponsor

    Nov 20, 2007
    N. Wisconsin/Lk Superior
    2005 420DA
    Cummins 6CTA8.3
    I'll bet you never read about some of this in the news
    http://www.eia.gov/tools/faqs/faq.cfm?id=29&t=6
     
  10. MonacoMike

    MonacoMike Well-Known Member SILVER Sponsor

    Sep 15, 2009
    Indiana lakes and Lake Michigan
    2000 Cruisers 3870
    97 270 Sundancer
    85 Sea Ray Monaco 197
    8.2 Mercs,
    7.4 BII
    260hp Alpha 1
    That is good.

    I liked this part:

    "What do I pay for in a gallon of regular gasoline?

    The national average retail price of a gallon of regular gasoline in January 2012 was $3.38. The four main components of the retail price of a gallon of gasoline, and their approximate share of the total price in January are:
    1. Crude Oil: 76%. The cost of crude oil as a share of the retail price varies over time and among regions of the country. Refiners paid an average of about $108.00 per barrel of crude oil, or about $2.57 per gallon, in January 2012.
    2. Refining Costs and Profits: 6%
    3. Distribution, Marketing, and Retail Costs and Profits: 6%
    4. Taxes: 12%. Federal excise taxes were 18.4 cents per gallon and State excise taxes averaged 22.68 cents per gallon."

    Number 3 is why the retailer makes their money selling Coke and lottery tickets. :smt043
     
    Last edited: Feb 23, 2012
  11. Ka1oxd

    Ka1oxd New Member

    Nov 19, 2009
    Connecticut River at Portland Riverside Marina
    1988 Sea Ray 340 Sundancer
    7.4l inboards
    Well if we are going to pay more, I am for taking away their tax breaks. If they want to keep their tax breaks, then the cost of gasoline should be reduced to US by 25% of the current market value.
     
  12. Four Suns

    Four Suns Head Pot Stirrer TECHNICAL Contributor

    Oct 4, 2006
    Williamsburg, VA
    2003 480 DB
    Zodiac ProJet Dinghy
    Yamaha 110vx WaveRunner
    QSM-11 Diesels
    Maybe we should spank them too... that'll get them to lower prices...
     
  13. Woody

    Woody Well-Known Member PLATINUM Sponsor

    Nov 20, 2007
    N. Wisconsin/Lk Superior
    2005 420DA
    Cummins 6CTA8.3
    Can you explain why/how that could be possible. If they loose money on every gallon how long do you think it'll be before you don't get any gas at alll.
     
  14. MonacoMike

    MonacoMike Well-Known Member SILVER Sponsor

    Sep 15, 2009
    Indiana lakes and Lake Michigan
    2000 Cruisers 3870
    97 270 Sundancer
    85 Sea Ray Monaco 197
    8.2 Mercs,
    7.4 BII
    260hp Alpha 1
    What will it take for our American society to quit asking government to "do something"? It does not work.

    MM
     
  15. DougLas

    DougLas Member

    463
    Dec 13, 2008
    Lake Erie
    39 Express
    454
    Cost to operate a Chevy Volt
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    Eric Bolling (Fox Business Channel's Follow the Money) test drove the Chevy Volt at the invitation of General Motors.
    For four days in a row, the fully charged battery lasted only 25 miles before the Volt switched to the reserve gasoline engine. Eric calculated the car got 30 mpg including the 25 miles it ran on the battery. So, the range including the 9 gallon gas tank and the 16 kwh battery is approximately 270 miles. It will take you 4 1/2 hours to drive 270 miles at 60 mph. Then add 10 hours to charge the battery and you have a total trip time of 14.5 hours. In a typical road trip your average speed (including charging time) would be 20 mph.
    According to General Motors, the Volt battery hold 16 kwh of electricity. It takes a full 10 hours to charge a drained battery.
    The cost for the electricity to charge the Volt is never mentioned so I looked up what I pay for electricity.
    I pay approximately (it varies with amount used and the seasons) $1.16 per kwh.
    16 kwh x $1.16 per kwh = $18.56 to charge the battery.
    $18.56 per charge divided by 25 miles = $0.74 per mile to operate the Volt using the battery.
    Compare this to a similar size car with a gasoline engine only that gets 32 mpg.
    $3.19 per gallon divided by 32 mpg = $0.10 per mile.
    The gasoline powered car cost about $15,000 while the Volt costs $46,000.



     
  16. comsnark

    comsnark New Member

    Apr 10, 2007
    NJ Shore
    SeaRay SunSport
    5.7LX
    I predict that the Republicans will stop demanding the government do something about gas prices this the moment Obama is out of office.
     
  17. comsnark

    comsnark New Member

    Apr 10, 2007
    NJ Shore
    SeaRay SunSport
    5.7LX
    I love the internet. You get to see this stuff:

    I wonder where this guy is?

    My last NJ power bill shows. $0.16 /kwh
    My last PA power bill shows $0.12 / kwh

    Neither area is know for its "cheap" power . . . .

    not bothering to look at any more of these "facts".
     
  18. MonacoMike

    MonacoMike Well-Known Member SILVER Sponsor

    Sep 15, 2009
    Indiana lakes and Lake Michigan
    2000 Cruisers 3870
    97 270 Sundancer
    85 Sea Ray Monaco 197
    8.2 Mercs,
    7.4 BII
    260hp Alpha 1
    I think you are off on the charge cost by a factor of 10. Eric Bolling in the on air conversation said "about a $1.75 per night to recharge". We are closer to $0.035 in my region so GM probably uses that for their marketing.

    MM
     
  19. VTSeaRay

    VTSeaRay Active Member

    Feb 19, 2008
    Northern Vermont / SW FL
    2007 210 Select w/5.0L 260HP MPI Mercruiser Alpha 1
    8 cyl 5.0 Merc mpi, w/alpha 1 with 19" prop, with the speedo hole on the leading edge just above it
    [​IMG]
     
  20. D-Sill-D

    D-Sill-D New Member

    290
    Aug 9, 2010
    Seattle
    2007 215 Weekender
    1988 Seville BR
    2002 7.2 F-350
    5.0 Mercruiser Alpha
    1988 100 HP Sea Ray OB (Mercury)
    Regardless of all the details, I don't think all of this happened by accident.....Most of us probably live in the burbs, for various reasons, another topic, and really, what the hell are we going to do about it, but knuckle under, and, buy the g*d d**m gas, almost, whatever the g*d d**m price is???? They will not, entirely, take us down but they are definitely going to make most of us bleed.......we have to purchase autos, insurance, and fuel....this is working great for someone....
     

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