58 Sedan Bridge Official Thread

Curious about the "Useable Fuel" being 105 gallons less than the tanks - is that a 10% reserve for planning purposes or are the tanks shaped in such a way that it leaves 105 gallons below the pickups? Seems to me 700 gallons in on the low side to begin with, never mind losing another 105 gallons.

 

I stick out of our 55' slip.

 

I have owner's manuals for the 55DB and it has that figure. Later 58 owner's manuals so not have it, so I don't know the answer. I guess I'll have to query Capt Rusty...

 

We have a 58DB in my marina that moved from a 60' to a 65' slip upon purchase. Not sure if he tried it or just assumed it wouldn't fit. My marina's pretty picky about us sticking out.

 

Just keep this in mind as well. You are in fresh water which is not a buoyant as salt so you will gain a little bit there. If you're counting inches then it may matter.

Josh

 

Our Marina owner in Chattanooga is a Sea Ray dealer and he wanted a 58 on his dock. He has allowed two of us to stick out...

 

Always thinkin aren't you -
Thanks Josh

 

Got to love our MAN engines. I'm due for my A-1 and M-1 through 5 services. The estimate from my "MAN man" is just north of 20K.

 

Carter, that sounds about right, maybe even a little low. My M1-M4 are done for the year and I'm not due for M5 for a few hundred hours more. How do you do the A1 without the A2, unless they're just capturing the ELC and reusing it? I'm due for both A services at the end of this coming summer but I may accelerate to this spring.

 

Sorry A-2 is being done also...Dummy me...

My broker down here said the east coast of FL has gotten competitive and the prices are lower over there now. I trust my "Man man", so I'm not even thinking about any alternative dealers...

 

So here are my charge air coolers, turbos, and heat exchangers going back on yesterday and today. They paint the charge air coolers and turbo outlets in black imron so they don’t turn “toasted white” with the heat. The heat exchangers are painted in white imron. He even repainted my oil filter canisters.

 

Nice engine room eye candy, Carter. How long did they take, start to finish?

 

Brian,

They started disassembly last Monday, took two days to take everything apart. They worked in the shop Wed and Thurs, painted them Friday, started putting them back together this Monday. They hope to finish today for the sea trial. I didn't realize they bring the MAN laptop and take extensive readings during the sea trial...

 

Looks like you finished it all up today!

 

Hey Ray - We did - 2 hr sea trial - took readings every 200 RPM just like a survey. All Checked good. Wish we would have seen you!!

We will be back Friday and Saturday...then I get to go enjoy Montreal next week - maybe the Michigan guys will allow me back on their thread!!!

 

I would be curious either here or by PM if you wouldn't mind sharing rough parts/labor on the services you had completed and what hour/year intervals those are needed.

Were considering a few boats for our next step and a few (including the 58DB) have MAN's, but I have only ever heard horror stories on service costs.

 

This service is done every two years, regardless of hours, to keep the engine(s) in warranty. I am out of warranty, so my "MAN man" inspects the heat exchangers and charge air coolers (MAN's name for after coolers) at the two year point. They looked good last year, so I was able to go 3 years for this service. The heat exchanger bundles are in a large aluminum tank (you can see one in the pics above), and that is where corrosion can take place. Oil/filters are required annually or at 200 hours - the oil is DELVAC ESP full synthetic - about $40/gallon. I've found it cheaper, but I don't want to haul 26 gallons of used oil away, (10 each engine 3 each transmission). Oil filters, two per engine, are about $50 each.

This service does impellers, oil and filters, antifreeze change, all fuel filters, transmission filters and oil, generator oil/filter/impeller, fuel filters, and all anodes. all 4 turbos are removed and cleaned and inspected as well. MAN also calls for all hoses to be replaced every 4 years, but again, my "MAN man" inspects and replaces only when necessary. The parts are taken to the shop where they are sonically cleaned and repainted. I had a small oil leak on a turbo oil line that was fixed as well. The sea trial was about two hours and very detailed in readings taken from the ECMs, etc. The shop estimate was $20K, and when the bill comes in, I'll gladly share it with you.

If you've owned a Mercedes, you know how the Germans like expensive services! I'm very pleased with how these engines run, and I will just have to say this is the cost of maintaining these complex, common rail engines. I've attached a description of each of these services that are done with the schedule...

 

I'd welcome any other MAN owner chiming in with their experiences.

 

Appreciate that, its about what I have heard locally. I fully understand the German maintenance and part pricing and mentality, but they build some pretty nice equipment that runs well!