Ididntdoit
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The perception is the 3196s are time bombs so they sell for much less even though the root cause of the problem was fixed long ago (the aftercoolers)
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Is the Cummins power worth the premium over the CAT?
Thank you for the response Crime Scene, the only item that really surprised me is that the 400 has more storage room.
In looking at the 480 market, it seems that there is generally a bit of an asking-price jump between the CAT and Cummins powered 480's that are of the same model year or just a year or two apart.
In one example, the ask for a 2002 Cummins is $94k higher than a very similar 2002 CAT.
Is the Cummins power worth the premium over the CAT?
Both my 400 and 480 were pushed by Cats. I love the Cats and have had no problems with either boat. The Cummins vs. Cat argument is much like the Ford vs. Chevy argument......both think they are right and will argue which is the best until blue in the face. To be $94k more is an over zealous seller trying to make a buck and not knowing what the boat market is. Yes, I will be waiting for the Cummins guys to chime in with their thoughts
I have the 660hp 3196 cats, which are the big boys in my neighborhood among boats my size. I can push the boat 32-35 depending on the boat water/fuel set up. I don't run it that hard, but it is nice to know the power is there if I need it. Research it a little. Both Cummins and Cats had some minor issues which have probably already been addressed on a 16 year old boat.
Good luck.
I thought of that Mike but the seacocks are different, these may be used in more than the 480 but I don’t know which - I’m looking first for info on these specific seacocks that I know are found in 480s before I go elsewhere and get a lot of responses that do not relate to these specifically. I have never seen any like them in any SR I have owned or seen -Russ, maybe make a new thread asking since every boat has seacocks. More people may see it. Mike
Got it. I've wracked my brain to how to service them in the water...I thought of that Mike but the seacocks are different, these may be used in more than the 480 but I don’t know which - I’m looking first for info on these specific seacocks that I know are found in 480s before I go elsewhere and get a lot of responses that do not relate to these specifically. I have never seen any like them in any SR I have owned or seen -
Mine were both leaking and I was told by Apollo that they are not serviceable. Since I own a machine shop, we made new cartridges for them while I was pulled last winter which seems to be working.
What I did previously was to take the handle off and play with the adjustment until they stopped. If you put the handle on backwards it will allow you more adjustment since it doesn't hit the stop. Works best with two people, one to adjust the handle slightly while the other watches the strainer to see when the trickle stops.
Mine were both leaking and I was told by Apollo that they are not serviceable. Since I own a machine shop, we made new cartridges for them while I was pulled last winter which seems to be working.
What I did previously was to take the handle off and play with the adjustment until they stopped. If you put the handle on backwards it will allow you more adjustment since it doesn't hit the stop. Works best with two people, one to adjust the handle slightly while the other watches the strainer to see when the trickle stops.