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Thanks jeffrey vargas

I chickened out and had boatyard do the heads. Just leaves me the macerator/holding tank lines...
Can you tell me more about that "contraption" please?

Thanks Jeffrey
Good call! If I could have found someone to trust to do it right I would have gone that path too.
 
Interesting to hear you guys thoughts on your next boat after the 48. Wind back the clock and just wondering whether you considered other boats when buying your 48's. Keen to hear your thoughts.

I'm looking at a 48DA ATM, but the engine room and access in it seems to be a nightmare on these boats and is really putting my off buying it as I like to do most of my work myself. Other boats I'm now considering are:

4400 Riviera Sports Yacht with Volvo IPS setup - slightly beamier and slightly shorter than the 48DA;
4700 Riviera Sports Yacht - shafts with 715hp C12 Cats or 705hp Cummins QSM11's; or
47 Riviera Flybridge - shafts with 660 hp Cummins QSM 11's or more rare with bigger Cats.

The last listed boat is very popular in my area and as a result a good 2005 - 2007 has increased in price over the last 4 or so years. I queried a couple of brokers for the reason why the price increase and its because later models are fitted with Volvo IPS setups which aren't as popular with people sticking to shafts and the reliable QSM11 motors which is driving up prices.
Well moving away from the 48 Sundancer might be a mistake. I think it's somewhat of the perfect boat with the QSC's and shafts. The engine compartment is tight but I have a very thin nephew and there's a kid in my marina that's great with a wrench. The biggest job's I've undertaken that required help were replacing the sanitations hoses and the starboard aftercooler removal/install. The port aftercooler removal was pretty easy. I still have to do the port heat-exchanger so I'll need assistance to get to that. At this point I know the boat very well and mechanically it's in great condition. If anything, it's worth more now than when I bought it. When I was looking for a 48 it was impossible to find one that had any maintenance records. The only other boat I considered at the time was the 55 Sundancer but the MAN's do scare me and finding one on the West Coast is nearly impossible.
 
Jeffrey I could not agree more with your statement of being worth more now than at purchase. We have owned our 48 since 2015 and I have made so many upgrades, maintenance improvements and now know all systems are mechanically sound. I have been getting the itch to move up to a 55/60’ of something but have a hard time getting my mind wrapped around going through the entire process again. I suppose I will need to put more time on ours and enjoy all the labor of love that has been put into it. I have no regrets buying our 48 and would do it all over again if I was moving up from our last boat.

Currently I am in the process of completing maintenance on the vacuflush systems and this is by far the most disgusting job I have ever experienced on a boat. I would not recommend trying this in the summer heat and is exactly why I am doing this now to avoid any unexpected issues during the season.

This is a great thread thanks to all for sharing so much info.

JB
 
Could I ask where you bought the deck hatch you installed? Great idea. I also have the dreaded Sea Ray sump box. When we bought the boat late last year it was pretty gummed up, and I have spent hours getting it cleaned out, new hoses etc.


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Jeffrey I could not agree more with your statement of being worth more now than at purchase. We have owned our 48 since 2015 and I have made so many upgrades, maintenance improvements and now know all systems are mechanically sound. I have been getting the itch to move up to a 55/60’ of something but have a hard time getting my mind wrapped around going through the entire process again. I suppose I will need to put more time on ours and enjoy all the labor of love that has been put into it. I have no regrets buying our 48 and would do it all over again if I was moving up from our last boat.

Currently I am in the process of completing maintenance on the vacuflush systems and this is by far the most disgusting job I have ever experienced on a boat. I would not recommend trying this in the summer heat and is exactly why I am doing this now to avoid any unexpected issues during the season.

This is a great thread thanks to all for sharing so much info.

JB
JB, no problem and let me know if you need anything. I want to replace my underwater lights...Any suggestions? I should have done it when I dropped the rudders to repack the glands.
 
[QUOTE="jeffrey vargas, I want to replace my underwater lights...Any suggestions? I should have done it when I dropped the rudders to repack the glands.[/QUOTE]


I just did that last week. I have Sea Vision underwater lights and swapped the HID lights out with their LED replacements, I went with the blue light this time. Very easy swap out as long as the main housing units were not corroded with salt water from intrusion. Mine were clean as a whistle so they screwed out by hand with no issues. I do have the original white bulbs if you need to replace a couple that are blown.
 
[QUOTE="jeffrey vargas, I want to replace my underwater lights...Any suggestions? I should have done it when I dropped the rudders to repack the glands.


I just did that last week. I have Sea Vision underwater lights and swapped the HID lights out with their LED replacements, I went with the blue light this time. Very easy swap out as long as the main housing units were not corroded with salt water from intrusion. Mine were clean as a whistle so they screwed out by hand with no issues. I do have the original white bulbs if you need to replace a couple that are blown.[/QUOTE]
Did you do the Sea Vision retrofit that slides into the original housing? I'm having problems getting the old canister out so I feel like I'm going to have to haul the boat.
 
Yes exactly. Another 48 in my marina had to have all his lights drilled out and replaced as they were heavily corroded from salt water. His boat cam out of Florida last year and was a mess from lack of care from prior owner.
 
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Yes exactly. Another 48 in my marina had to have all his lights drilled out and replaced as they we heavily corroded from salt water. His boat cam out of Florida last year and was a mess from lack of care from prior owner.
Ughhh...well that may be my situation. I replaced one of the canisters last year. SeaVision knows they have a problem as the new canister thing they sent me was a really heavy bronze housing vs the flimsy metal ones that were original.
 
I had the same concern on how good it would match. I just figured if it didn't match and I wasn't happy then I would do it all. I think it looks great and matches well and I'm pretty picky. If your potential canvas/upholstery guy is telling you to do it all it's probably because he wants a bigger job.

When you have time it would be great to see pictures of the cockpit. To confirm you did just did the aft J shaped seating?
 
When you have time it would be great to see pictures of the cockpit. To confirm you did just did the aft J shaped seating?
Yes, I did just the aft J seat area. In the picture, I did just the area that is removed. I'd be happy to take pics of the finished product and the area at the helm that wasn't done but it's going to be hard to tell the difference.
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Interesting that you ended up with a Predator. I'll have to take a look. I'm a year or two from my next boat and have been really looking at the Princess V series and newer Searay's. I want to be in the mid 50 to 60ft range without pods. That's a great looking boat!
Thank you, the Princess V58 was on my list as well. The advantage of the sunseeker was the full beam master has a flat floor with 6 foot 6" headroom full walk around. Cockpit is much larger and there is a crew quarters at the stern that is useable with head from the swim platform. The Princess V58 was a bit narrower and the performance on paper was better, maybe by a knot or two. My boat was is a straight shaft version with the rare option of zero speed Sleipner stabilizers. they work at anchor and at speed very well.
 
Well moving away from the 48 Sundancer might be a mistake. I think it's somewhat of the perfect boat with the QSC's and shafts. The engine compartment is tight but I have a very thin nephew and there's a kid in my marina that's great with a wrench. The biggest job's I've undertaken that required help were replacing the sanitations hoses and the starboard aftercooler removal/install. The port aftercooler removal was pretty easy. I still have to do the port heat-exchanger so I'll need assistance to get to that. At this point I know the boat very well and mechanically it's in great condition. If anything, it's worth more now than when I bought it. When I was looking for a 48 it was impossible to find one that had any maintenance records. The only other boat I considered at the time was the 55 Sundancer but the MAN's do scare me and finding one on the West Coast is nearly impossible.

Unfortunately the 48's are relatively unloved here in Australia, so I'm going to take a hit if I ever buy it and eventually sell it. Here is te helm setup of the boat which i have not seen before. Has been serviced by Cummins Australia for the last 10 years.

sea-ray-48-sundancer-1927.jpg
 
Unfortunately the 48's are relatively unloved here in Australia, so I'm going to take a hit if I ever buy it and eventually sell it. Here is te helm setup of the boat which i have not seen before. Has been serviced by Cummins Australia for the last 10 years.

sea-ray-48-sundancer-1927.jpg
Ohh yeah, it's missing the platform that allows you to swing the seats out of the way. I've never seen one like that either. Also, the seats look like they're out of a 52 and not the original 48 seats.
 
Ohh yeah, it's missing the platform that allows you to swing the seats out of the way. I've never seen one like that either. Also, the seats look like they're out of a 52 and not the original 48 seats.

I have seen this as a factory set up in a couple boats. At first I thought i liked the idea but once you use a 48 sundancer the seats that swivel out of the way are totally the way to go in my opinion. Any time we aren't under way we swing the helm seats aside and the room it opens up is awesome
 
Unfortunately the 48's are relatively unloved here in Australia, so I'm going to take a hit if I ever buy it and eventually sell it. Here is te helm setup of the boat which i have not seen before. Has been serviced by Cummins Australia for the last 10 years.

sea-ray-48-sundancer-1927.jpg
My 48 DA had this option. It was a factory special option if you wanted formal helm seats. Pros is that these were great for running and fully adjustable. They also swivel 180 degrees to face aft. Con, they don't swing out of the way.
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My 48 DA had this option. It was a factory special option if you wanted formal helm seats. Pros is that these were great for running and fully adjustable. They also swivel 180 degrees to face aft. Con, they don't swing out of the way. View attachment 84569
Slightly off topic but. Have been curious about the foot rest in your photo. Garlick discontinued them. Are they practical or do you find them uncomfortable to use? I find I find i need to put my foot somewhere wile cruising and don't like putting them on the helm. A foot rest would be nice but wonder why they weren't widely avail with those helm seats.
 
My 48 DA had this option. It was a factory special option if you wanted formal helm seats. Pros is that these were great for running and fully adjustable. They also swivel 180 degrees to face aft. Con, they don't swing out of the way. View attachment 84569

Curious to hear if you would go for this option again or the typical 48 helm setup? I think I prefer these formal helm seats and the fact they face aft, but hard to know as I haven't lived with them. Possibly more storage behind them when on trips?
 
Slightly off topic but. Have been curious about the foot rest in your photo. Garlick discontinued them. Are they practical or do you find them uncomfortable to use? I find I find i need to put my foot somewhere wile cruising and don't like putting them on the helm. A foot rest would be nice but wonder why they weren't widely avail with those helm seats.
Actually we used these all the time. Flip up the bolster and you can stand on them to look over the bow. They also rotate and go up and down. So yes you can swing them away if you don't want them.
 
Curious to hear if you would go for this option again or the typical 48 helm setup? I think I prefer these formal helm seats and the fact they face aft, but hard to know as I haven't lived with them. Possibly more storage behind them when on trips?
When I first got the boat I was a bit bummed because I had really liked the swing away helm chair. But after cruising for some time they are more comfortable than the traditional seat. So yes, I would opt for them again. And when they put the flexiteek on them, I thought they looked fantastic.
 

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