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Following this thread as my horn blasts are subpar. When I depress the horn switch the first time I get a decent blast, the quick, follow up depression of the switch may or may not produce a sound.
Mine almost makes sound at this point. Might as well consider it inop
 
So I see there are at least a few different horn versions. One is the air horn on the arch with the air compressor and tank in no man's land inside the swim platform on the starboard side. It sounds like a freight train horn, and sounds kind of like a freight train passing by when the air compressor recharges. Another is an air horn in the anchor locker area with a small air pump under the master state room berth that doesn't seem to have enough flow rate. Is there also an electronic dying duck in the anchor locker option?

I have the freight train one. Serious horn.
 
I just pull my shop air compressor to boat and unhooked the airline from the boat compressor and blew air from shop compressor and horns were loud. So horns and presumably air lines are ok. I have no idea if the little compressor is original, but it does run and blew air out but I just don’t have knowledge of it’s normal output. may this point, not wanting to run extra wires to the front of boat for a tank set up, I’ll search out the strongest direct drive type compressor to replace this and see what I can get out of it.
shame there is not already a constant 12+ and ground supply up there, because I would have gone with a small tank type set up.
 
So I see there are at least a few different horn versions. One is the air horn on the arch with the air compressor and tank in no man's land inside the swim platform on the starboard side. It sounds like a freight train horn, and sounds kind of like a freight train passing by when the air compressor recharges. Another is an air horn in the anchor locker area with a small air pump under the master state room berth that doesn't seem to have enough flow rate. Is there also an electronic dying duck in the anchor locker option?

I have the freight train one. Serious horn.
I just pull my shop air compressor to boat and unhooked the airline from the boat compressor and blew air from shop compressor and horns were loud. So horns and presumably air lines are ok. I have no idea if the little compressor is original, but it does run and blew air out but I just don’t have knowledge of it’s normal output. may this point, not wanting to run extra wires to the front of boat for a tank set up, I’ll search out the strongest direct drive type compressor to replace this and see what I can get out of it.
shame there is not already a constant 12+ and ground supply up there, because I would have gone with a small tank type set up.
have you tried just connecting a single horn to the air hose to see if its louder? I don't that small of a unit can produce enough air to run both but a single horn may be louder than the double.
 
have you tried just connecting a single horn to the air hose to see if its louder? I don't that small of a unit can produce enough air to run both but a single horn may be louder than the double.
I have not simply because I was trying to make it as stock as it came.
I guess worst case if the new compressor is not louder than I will get a second one and run them parallel and use a “y” fitting to connect both to the single line going out of that compartment. I read online others doing that with very noticeable results.
 
The loud kalhenberg is a single horn. If you are thinking of the compressor and accumulator tank you can buy it as a kit from Defender’s. It comes with compressor, pressure switch ,gauge ,tank and 50 ft of hose
 
The loud kalhenberg is a single horn. If you are thinking of the compressor and accumulator tank you can buy it as a kit from Defender’s. It comes with compressor, pressure switch ,gauge ,tank and 50 ft of hose
I’d love to have the tank set up but just can’t get myself motivated to run extra wires for it right now. Tank set up would need a constant power feed to the pressure switch in addition to the wire already connected to the switch.
 
I just pull my shop air compressor to boat and unhooked the airline from the boat compressor and blew air from shop compressor and horns were loud. So horns and presumably air lines are ok. I have no idea if the little compressor is original, but it does run and blew air out but I just don’t have knowledge of it’s normal output. may this point, not wanting to run extra wires to the front of boat for a tank set up, I’ll search out the strongest direct drive type compressor to replace this and see what I can get out of it.
shame there is not already a constant 12+ and ground supply up there, because I would have gone with a small tank type set up.
How about just piggy backing off the windlass power supply in the anchor locker? there should be 12 volts with plenty of available amps. How often do you need both at the at the same time? Just a thougt.
Carpe Deim
 
How about just piggy backing off the windlass power supply in the anchor locker? there should be 12 volts with plenty of available amps. How often do you need both at the at the same time? Just a thougt.
Carpe Deim
Is it constant on to power the pressure switch? Hmm- will have to check. I guess if the helm switch to power the foot switches is left on?! Interesting idea- thanks!
 
Isn’t the power in the anchor locker 24 volts ?
If you check new threads someone is selling a kalhenberg air horn
I was always under the impression that only the bow thruster is wired for 24 volts. Pretty sure the windlass is 12 although 24 would be desirable. All of the batteries except the bow thruster batteries are wired in parallel not series.
 
I looked up sone compact converters that would reduce the 24 to 12 and with ratings up to 40 amps I would think it would work.
I’ll look more into it after my niece and nephew leave this weekend
 
I was always under the impression that only the bow thruster is wired for 24 volts. Pretty sure the windlass is 12 although 24 would be desirable. All of the batteries except the bow thruster batteries are wired in parallel not series.
Yes, it's 12V for sure. Windlass solenoid is powered off the port battery load side. If required, the emergency start switch will cross starboard battery over.
 
I got my compressor today.
 

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When the new replacement compressor gets in and I try it if it’s not loud enough I’ll be looking at getting tank and compressor set up
 
So I got the new compressor in and installed it. It is definitely better than the old pump. It it is definitely lame at best. so I’m going to look into compressor and tank setup off the the windlass power feed and will run a short length of wire from present compressor wires to the anchor locker to trigger the tank solenoid.
 

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