fropleyquark
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- Dec 30, 2007
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That's the first time I have heard of the 2003-7 (?8) 340 Sundancer as having "80's styling."
Sorry, I guess the previous, previous.... I meant like this one that was posted earlier....
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That's the first time I have heard of the 2003-7 (?8) 340 Sundancer as having "80's styling."
320k for a 34 foot boat? That's a 100k jump from what people purchased there 07 and 06 340's for!!
SBW the Tiara 3200 is a nice boat but it's a lot different boat than a 340 DA or the new 350. The 3200 is only 35' if you're counting the pulpit, its 32' 7" without. The Sundancers don't have pulpits. Length wise a 3200 compares to a 320/330 DA. Now the 3200 is a lot wider, it's 13' versus 12' for the 340/350. Also the 3200 does not have a mid cabin, so it's hard to make an apples to apples comparison. The mid cabin on a 340/350 is pretty big, that's a lot of usable space to give up.
I think the new Searay's including the 350 are priced too high, even when compared to similar sized boats. They're starting to get to Formula levels. Luckily the market will sort this out.
Mmm, what are you talking about? Just stand on the deck next to the pass-through windshield and turn the knob to loosen and tilt the antenna. What climbing on the arch?At least you don't have to climb up on top of the arch to change the angle or lower the antenna like you will have to do on your Four Winns V358. :smt018
Do you think that is too high? A 2008, 32 foot Tiara open is 35 feet loa without a swim platform. Add that and it's 38 loa with a 13 foot beam and weighs around 19,000 pounds. Sounds very similar to the 35' SR. The retail on the Tiara with popular options is $332,355. It can be bought for $292,272 or $28,000 less than the 35 SR.
The options I included in this example are: bottom paint, upper cockpit carpet, swim platform w/ladder, ice maker in lieu of cockpit fridge, genny, ARC spotlite, macerator, a $24,000 allowance for electronics, full hardtop, and drop curtain. Standard features on the 3200 include the usual things like a 12 volt fridge, a microwave, coffee maker, flatscreen 12volt tv and 12 volt dvd player, shower w/ over 6' of stand up head room, queen sized bed with full interspring mattress, lots of storage space, ultra leather upholstery, solid teak 3/4" hardwood floors and 16,000 BTU reverse cycle a/c and heat. Power is by Crusader, 385 HP 8.1s with straight inboards.
The Tiara has a keel and is slightly flater (18 degrees) but has sharper entry than the 35 SR. Its range is 204 miles and the gassers deliver about .8 mpg with a cruising speed of about 23 knots.
People in the market for a 35 foot boat (which is a great size for a lot of reasons) should look at a Tiara 3200 Open as a part of their shopping experience.
Do you have a site where the 35 SR specs are posted? I looked and did not find them.
SBW1 - Would you like to place an ad for a Tiara. I know we all look at other manufacturers but this like a person coming into a BMW dealership and saying anyone looking for a sedan should consider a Lexus (you can save $10 and they are exact same). Let me show you the window sticker for the Lexus and then you make the call. No there is not a lexusclub so I am here at the BMWclub to try and get you to buy a lexus.
I agree. I've been wanting to see a 3900 Convertible in person. A friend has a 3200 and it's great boat, quite a lot of space inside. Not as 'comfy' as the typical express though, but fantastically well laid out in the engine compartment.Nope. Not trying to do that at all. Several have mentioned other competitors such as Regal, Cobalt,........etc. The specs that you provided (thank you) confirmed what I was thinking. The 3200 and 35 are very similar in size. Weight is about the same. Features and power very similar. Price for the SR is higher. Don't you find that interesting? I do.
Price for the SR is higher. Don't you find that interesting? I do.
Do you have a site where the 35 SR specs are posted? I looked and did not find them. I think the match up with the 35 may be closer than you think. The Tiara's length is taken at the water line the way a navel archietect measures length.....
... I know the aft cabin is below the helm, so the mid cabin is below the windshield in my way of thinking. The Tiara has quite a large mid cabin so I don't understand your comment. It also has an airconditioned 8' by 11' enclosed helm that adds gobs of usable space. It would be interesting to see actual specs on the 35.
I'll chime in on the Tiara versus Sea Ray versus (insert brand name here).
I have never seen a Tiara in person only in the magazines and on the net. That's because I have only been boating for seven years and only on our inland lake and also because there are no Tiara dealers in Charlotte that I am aware of. But here is my impression of Tiaras. They are an extremely well built boat but kind of "stodgy" styling wise. Maybe "classic" would be a better description but they certainly aren't leading edge styling wise. Overall they are priced higher than most other "mass produced" boats like Sea Rays or Regals. In the end, choosing a Tiara is a personal choice. The quality end of the boat and it's apparent sea worthiness appeal to me. The styling does not but then I feel the same about Regals with their odd angled radar arches and weird looking windows.
But we are all boaters on this board and we all have different tastes and reasons for buying what we do even if we stay within the Sea Ray line up. I respect everyone else's choice in that regard as long as we are just "discussing" the differences and not bashing or criticizing someone for their choice. But since the overwhelming majority of us are Sea Ray owners (this is a Sea Ray board after all) we tend to be more passionate about our Sea Rays than we are about other brands. We will also tend to chastise Sea Ray more for a new model we don't like for the very same reason. Those of us from the old SRO board that remember the huge posting that ensued when Sea Ray announced the 290 know exactly what I mean. There were not too many nice things said about that boat when it first came out but it still with us and many people do like it and have purchased it. At the same time it's intended replacement, the 280DA, is still here too so obviously folks like both style of boats despite the fact they are basically the same LOA. The same can be said about the 240 Sundeck and the 260 Sundeck which are identical in length as well. Both boats are still around. Obviously there are many who don't like the new 350 Sundancer as they have stated in this posting whether that be because of styling, price, weight or whatever. And since the current 340 is a very popular boat it is only natural to not like the 350 if one does not feel it is an improvement over the existing 340DA. In the end though the sales figures will tell the truth about whether the buying public likes this boat or not. I am betting that the 350 will be a big hit. If I am wrong then maybe there is a possibility the 340DA may not go away.
JG,
Once the horse is out of the barn u cant bring it back in. Searay has made changes after customer backlash. IT is limited though by cost. Sadly since the saturn chic fired all the age old designers all the old mistakes will be made again and again. I have some 35 pics to post.... More vomit material
Rob
"Stodgy"?? Classic I can live with, but not stodgy.