A cute 190 Stopped in for a restoration

I am curious............

How do you price a job like this? Time + materials? By the foot? Contract total? Contracted total not to exceed x ?

I know in this area, partially due to the salt water influence, most yards will not quote a firm price until all the "bad stuff" is uncovered and the amount of rebuilding and restoring can be determined.
 
It all depends Fwebster.

For the most part. I give the boat a thorough inspection. I make a quote based on my estimate of time and materials. I make it understood that it could change if hidden or unseen damages are found. This point is hammered home in writing and through verbal agreement.

Then we move on to the the time. Labor goes some down if the time frame is drawn out. More pressure, more cost. Then once we get into the boat if any surprises are found we consult with the owner, let them know what we recommend & cost, then let them make the choice on how to proceed. We try to foresee all we can but this is real life and things do show up no one saw. All in all it works out for us and our customer.

In most cases the surprises are never large. Most often what we see in the way of a surprise are owners who thought they had a easy restoration only to be a bit miffed by all the real problems we find. It's often they never take a hard look at there boats. "Looks good from 3 feet at the dock. It's a easy restoration...... " Till we go over it with the microscope.
 
:thumbsup: WOW, Heather!!!!! ...I hope my windshield will look as bright!!! Did you use a bi-component paint? That's what my yard will be using...
 
Yes Pietro. It was a 2 part poly..... Yours will look great!


It was on to some of the tedious stuff tonight. I polished about 150 tiny things.... Lots of brass and chrome the owner did not want to replace but touch up.

So it was on the buffer all night. Most of it turned out nice. A few things must be replaced after a honest try though.

I got a late start today. Sexy Horse and her band of merry equines escaped the compound and were found about 4 miles a way on a walk-about up a old logging road. That took most of the day to find them at last........

What a long day.:smt009
 

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Heather
In the work smarter not harder category, it has to be cheaper to buy new snaps and small hardware than spend time behind the buffer. Some things yes I suppose. In the lock industry there are many cases where hardware is cheaper to but new than the labor rate to replace or rekey it.

If your shop rate is $75/hr and you have 40 snaps to replace that the kit costs $40 for the kit, you're easily money ahead to get new snaps and install them, no?
 
Nehalennia said:
Heather
In the work smarter not harder category, it has to be cheaper to buy new snaps and small hardware than spend time behind the buffer. Some things yes I suppose. In the lock industry there are many cases where hardware is cheaper to but new than the labor rate to replace or rekey it.

If your shop rate is $75/hr and you have 40 snaps to replace that the kit costs $40 for the kit, you're easily money ahead to get new snaps and install them, no?
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100% behind ya. But to him, Original is Original...:huh:
 
Spookeay said:
100% behind ya. But to him, Original is Original...:huh:
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Yeah, but paint isn't original?
Anyway you're doing a good job and what he's requesting. It just seems that items like snaps you would think he would want new fresh ones that will work v. the originals. Now the nameplates and original chrome is another thing. Those pieces, to me, are what define a nice restoration. If all pitted I wouldn't hesitate having them rechromed though. If you've already gone so far into the restoration make it complete with the fine details.
 
Well Lucky snaps or not. It's all going back together nicely. I thought about it today. This was to have been a 3 month job, but becasue of the record cold this winter I did not get really started till March. I have managed to do all this in about 30 days. Well, about 35 when done I guess. Not much left to do now...... What a fun project.
 

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Fantastic job! Are you putting the original interior in or something newer?
 
sfergson727 said:
Holy Schnikies, that looks great! I'll be sure to hire you to refinish my boat on it's 40th birthday. Please put me in your schedule.
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Well I think it's a 07???? I may not be able to move by then unless I take massive doses of Advil.:smt043

jpk33 said:
Fantastic job! Are you putting the original interior in or something newer?
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No, it's all being reupholster. The side pannels in the boat right now fine so they will stay. But new carpet, seats and upper side panels are under way..but some what behind me in my work.
 
Looking forward to seeing it all done. Looks great so far.
 
Great worh Heather - looks really nice -
"NOW" back to those side windows................
 
Heather,
I have spent the last hour watching all your videos on this restoration. I am just in awe. This is outstanding work. I had a '94 180 Searay that I spent weeks restoring the interior (no gelcoat work, just carpet and seats). I have never been to Alabama but have met some really wonderful people from the great state. I just purchased an '08 210 so hopefully I won't need your sevices right away.

If Discovery Channel calls you, I'm on the other side of the glass watching you! Besides, I'm tired of Dirty Jobs! Looking forward to the finish on this one!

Barefoot (yes, I've had that signature for quite sometime)
 
Thank you every one. I love this stuff and the pat's on the back make it all the better. I'm a ham for complements.
Well I am a Ham too, W4HLK but that's for another site. LOL.

As for My 270, when this one is done I can get back to it. For now, it's all about my customer's boat. It's just good business to be on his stuff and not promoting my own boat at this time.

BTW,,, any one have a small electroplating system they want to sell me? I did detail work tonight on the name badges. Would be nice to plate them in house.
 

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I used to own part interest in a company that built automatic and semi-automatic machinery for the sewn products industry. We tried plating in house for cadmium, chrome and oxide finishes. Most everything was painted, but there were some shafts, wear surfaces and clearanced items that only plating would work for. We found that keeping the tanks clean and chemistry right was more trouble than it is worth for occasional use. We did fine when we plated every day or so, but leave the stuff idle for a few weeks and the problems became exponential. The other issue for us was the amount of shop space it the plating and cleaning/polishing wheels required vs. the time it was used. We much preferred to do everything in house, but maintaining plating equipment even though it gave us some scheduling freedom in house, it proved to cost a lot more than sourcing it to a qualified vendor outside.

We used a plating company in Hunstville (30 miles south of us) who did better work cheaper than we could do it in our own shop, but we were paying machinsts wages.

Just a thought............
 
Yes fwebster I think you may be right.. Uggg well any way. It's a thought. It would nice to have.

From mettle to wood. I am building a new swim platform. The old one is just to split and cracked along the grains to fix. This walnut is so rich smelling and oily it does not take much to make you feel queasy in the tummy. But it sure is pretty when finished.
 

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