Updating larger cruisers

Discussion in 'Modifications/Customizations' started by geriksen, Mar 7, 2008.

  1. geriksen

    geriksen New Member GOLD Sponsor

    378
    Jul 24, 2007
    Austin TX
    98 500 Sundancer
    6V92 DDEC Detroits
    As some of you know, I am not thrilled about the new boats or their prices. For the last three years I have been buying slightly older large Sea Rays and updating them. The older boats (in my opinion) look much sleeker and prettier on the outside than the new generation.
    Where they are lacking is on the inside. The interior on some of them are horrible. Good news is that this is easily fixed. My boats when finished have been re-selling for top dollar without even advertising them. The boat I have now is a 'keeper" so I am not trying to sell it here at all. I thought I would start this thread and show you how some of these turned out, and so you can see the progress on the current boat.

    Maybe someone will get inspired and buy themselved a pre-owned Sea Ray and do the same. You really end up with a very nice boat at a good price if you do it right!

    Skip the sunk/salvage boats. Those are too far gone. I have done two of those already. A 42 Chris Craft and a Formula 400SS. They both turned out great (both are almost complete) but imagine spending three years and 200K....! Not a good deal. Get a boat that runs well, and is solid and complete. Then update it.

    I will start with some pictures of the current boat in progress. This is a 1997 Sea Ray 580SSS. It was already a beautiful boat and ran perfectly but the interior was very blah and outside some of the salt air had taken it's toll.

    The equivelant boat from Sea Ray now lists for 2.5M and I don't like it as much as this one.
    Just wait until it is finished. It will out shine and maybe out run the new one at less than a 1/4 the price. It is also in the flat stage of it's depreciation curve so it will hold it's value well. The Sea Ray name helps that too.

    Here is the boat being lifted to ship in St. Pete FL, and how it arrived in TX.
    Good bones here. Nice lines, the right engines, and a new 30K teak cockpit floor.

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  2. Bridog

    Bridog Active Member GOLD Sponsor

    Oct 4, 2006
    Gulf Shores AL / Brick NJ
    2016 19SPX OB
    Mercury 150 4S OB
    I'm looking forward to some "before and after" pictures.
     
  3. Presentation

    Presentation Well-Known Member TECHNICAL Contributor

    Oct 3, 2006
    Wisconsin - Winnebago Pool chain of lakes
    280 Sundancer, Westerbeke MPV generator
    twin 5.0's w/BIII drives
    geriksen,

    It’s difficult to read your post.

    Your pictures are so big that the post is so wide I have to scroll back and forth to read 1 line.

    Can you please edit your photos down to a size that does not make reading your post so hard?
     
  4. Bottom Line

    Bottom Line Active Member

    Oct 6, 2006
    Table Rock Lake(Branson MO)
    2003 360 Sundancer
    2002 Sea Doo GTI
    Twin Mercruiser 8.1L
    Westerbeke Generator
    Awesome looking boat....do you any interior pics yet. I would like to see what the original looks like.
     
  5. PMvdb395DA

    PMvdb395DA New Member

    Oct 12, 2006
    Netherlands Europe
    360DA '03 6,5 kw kohler generator, AC, etc.
    Yanmar 315Hp diesels
    Doug.... it's a 580SSS with the S's from scroll :grin:
     
  6. geriksen

    geriksen New Member GOLD Sponsor

    378
    Jul 24, 2007
    Austin TX
    98 500 Sundancer
    6V92 DDEC Detroits
    To give you an idea of what is going to happen here. These are before, during, and after pics of the inside of my last boat a 1996 500SD.

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    You can see the dramatic difference. All "pickled oak", gold plated hand rails, gold plastic trim, sculpted carpet, fairy princess mirror on the wall, and white applliances are gone.
    The TV come away from the wall on an arm and suspends in the middle of the lving room.
    We acutually did more work after these pics were take. The white door frames and handles were and sanded and polished down to the original aluminum finish.
     
  7. geriksen

    geriksen New Member GOLD Sponsor

    378
    Jul 24, 2007
    Austin TX
    98 500 Sundancer
    6V92 DDEC Detroits
    can you do that within photobucket? dang, it took me 45 minutes to put together that second post.

    The only way I have found to make small pics is to e-mail them to myself and choose to make them smaller at that time. That would take forever with this. I will try.
     
  8. Presentation

    Presentation Well-Known Member TECHNICAL Contributor

    Oct 3, 2006
    Wisconsin - Winnebago Pool chain of lakes
    280 Sundancer, Westerbeke MPV generator
    twin 5.0's w/BIII drives
    Thank you for trying.

    The pictures look great.

    I do not know about photobucket.

    Do you have “Paint” that is included with Windows?

    You may be able to open the picture with that, up to “image” down to “skew” and reduce the size then re-save.

    If it does not bother anyone else, don’t worry about it.

    I am interested in reading what you posed so I copied the text and pasted it into Word then read it then came back and looked at the pictures.

    Again, nice job.
     
  9. Still LauCo

    Still LauCo New Member

    408
    Sep 20, 2007
    Grosse Pointe Farms, MI
    300 Sundancer 1996
    Twin 5.7L EFI Alpha One Drives
    Great thread, thanks for taking the time to put this together. Beautiful 580, and the work you did on the 50 is staggering!
     
  10. Dave S

    Dave S Well-Known Member TECHNICAL Contributor

    Oct 3, 2006
    Upstate South Carolina
    Boatless
    Boatless
    Great pictures.

    Photobucket allows you to size pictures for the web very easily. I do it when downloading mine. In the area where you place your URL for downloading right under the words "Images from my PC" you will see the size that of the picture that Photobucket will create along with the word "options" in blue. Click on "options" and select the "message board" size. All pictures downloaded from that point will be the right size. On pictures already downloaded you will see the word "edit" above each picture. Clicking on that word will also allow you to resize any picture you have downloaded.
     
  11. geriksen

    geriksen New Member GOLD Sponsor

    378
    Jul 24, 2007
    Austin TX
    98 500 Sundancer
    6V92 DDEC Detroits
    bow area

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  12. delliott00

    delliott00 New Member

    115
    Oct 10, 2006
    Lake Travis TX
    I can attest that Grant does an amazing job on his boats. The pics are great but don't do it justice. After he's done with them no "new" searay compares. Buying a solid 1990-2000 Sea Ray, freshening the interior and adding new A/V equipment can be done for a fraction of the price of a new boat. And the end result is even better and will not look dated again in 10yrs. People literally offer to buy them on the spot.

    Gold handrails, white formica, mauve and teal carpet and accents. Ick. What was up with Searay in the 90s? Was that REALLY in style back then? It does make you wonder if the guys who were designing the interiors of big Sea Rays in the mid 90s have now moved to the exterior styling dept.

    You can tell he has a top notch boat yard. You should see what his shop did to the Chris Craft 42 they have. The woodwork is astounding.

    I'm waiting for him to buy the big Bertram 50 he really wants and redo that into something that'll rival the customs. Someday, I might have to have him refit a nice 38 Ocean SS for me for 1/5th the price of a new one.

    -Dave
    '07 Sea Hunt 220
    '04 Sea Ray 280DA
     
  13. Sundancer

    Sundancer Active Member

    Jul 20, 2005
    Prosser, WA
    30 year old CLASSIC 300 DA, towed almost anywhere behind the Duramax Duallie Crew Cab.
    16 cyl, 700 cu. in./Alpha I's
    Is that just a thin oak veneer that is glued on top of the existing laminate or is that a total gut with new cabinets?
     
  14. geriksen

    geriksen New Member GOLD Sponsor

    378
    Jul 24, 2007
    Austin TX
    98 500 Sundancer
    6V92 DDEC Detroits
    It's cherrywood veneer glued over the exisiting laminate.
    The floors in that boat are regular brazilian cherrywood, hardwood floors.

    Fortunately, thanks to my business I have access to a guy who is a true artist with wood. When he is done it is as good or better than factory.
     
  15. Sundancer

    Sundancer Active Member

    Jul 20, 2005
    Prosser, WA
    30 year old CLASSIC 300 DA, towed almost anywhere behind the Duramax Duallie Crew Cab.
    16 cyl, 700 cu. in./Alpha I's
    That is truly amazing and makes a huge difference in appearance!
     
  16. geriksen

    geriksen New Member GOLD Sponsor

    378
    Jul 24, 2007
    Austin TX
    98 500 Sundancer
    6V92 DDEC Detroits
    Your 300DA would be a good candidate for something like this. Some of those had pink or baby blue interiors. The grey ones look ok. Some wood, some pleather, some new hardware. and Voila!
     
  17. geriksen

    geriksen New Member GOLD Sponsor

    378
    Jul 24, 2007
    Austin TX
    98 500 Sundancer
    6V92 DDEC Detroits
    here is the couch before and after the floor

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  18. Four Suns

    Four Suns Head Pot Stirrer TECHNICAL Contributor

    Oct 4, 2006
    Williamsburg, VA
    2003 480 DB
    Zodiac ProJet Dinghy
    Yamaha 110vx WaveRunner
    QSM-11 Diesels
    it needs a mirror ball...

    Nice photos and nice work.
     
  19. geriksen

    geriksen New Member GOLD Sponsor

    378
    Jul 24, 2007
    Austin TX
    98 500 Sundancer
    6V92 DDEC Detroits
    I know.......
    I didn't change the shiny couch. It was in too good condition to re-do.

    It was so much worse to start with. I called it Miami Vice (the early years) meets Tammy Faye Baker, meets "rent to own" furniture. :)

    After these pics were taken, the gold knobs were all replaced with brushed nickel and the door frames and handles were "de-whited"

    The 580 didn't start off quite as bad as this 500 was. I will post pics of it tomorrow.
     
  20. Pirate

    Pirate New Member

    796
    Jun 26, 2007
    Knoxville, TN
    Currently Boatless
    Boatless
    I've seen veneers applied in a cabinet shop with a vaccum bag process. How do you get the veneer to adhere to the old laminate?

    Beautiful work.
     

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