This summers gas prices....

[hughespat57]

I gotta say I don't know why the folks that can afford fuel at any price are even following a thread like this.
If you can afford a 50+ footer more power to you. If you can afford to pay others $10-20k a year to do much of your maintenance that;s great. Truly, I'm glad life has worked out for you. But all of us are not in the "same boat".

I have an older 300, I am a former marine mechanic and HD truck mechanic, so a lot of my annual cost is in my labor. I have done 100% of all the repairs to my boat so far since I have owned it. Materials are my only costs. This is a reason I trailer it. I want to have it where I can work on it myself any time, I wont pay 4k+ a year for a slip on the lake and I fuel it at QT with non-ethanol gas. Gas that in June was $1.85 in 2020, $2.90 in 2021, $3.89 now.

So for my capacity of 200 gallons, yes rising gas is a serious cost for me.
At 150 gallons per fill-up, those numbers are the difference between:
2020 277.50
2021 435.00 (+$157 per fill) 50% increase
2022 583.50 (+$306 per fill) 110% increase

And how much will it go up between now and June?

So @tc410 I read your response as "If you cant afford what I can you should get out of boating".
As I said good for you that you can do what you do, but it was the response that makes you an ass.

@kevin27 Your response is almost the same, you acknowledge it may get to the point that it affects you but until then you don't care. Well it is at the point it affects a lot of us.

@highslice Let it go man, there are way to many people that will never understand where the average among us are coming from.

 

[kevin27]

I don’t care about the price; not rich, I love having one even if it doesn’t move. Many days in summer we just don’t have the energy to deal with canvas, lines, wakes, etc. when the temp is 98 and humidity is 100%. We take a cooler and sit in the Adirondack chairs in the shade on the high ground overlooking the marina/river and thank god we can do that.
I’ve lived thru the 70’s OPEC gas lines and every inflation since, not first rodeo and this won’t last or be the last inflation cycle.
So if I have to spend a summer piloting an Adirondack chair and sucking cold beers while watching people panic and sell boats over gas prices, I’ll take it all year long.

Think you misunderstood me. I care a lot!

 

[Blueone]

I gotta say I don't know why the folks that can afford fuel at any price are even following a thread like this.
If you can afford a 50+ footer more power to you. If you can afford to pay others $10-20k a year to do much of your maintenance that;s great. Truly, I'm glad life has worked out for you. But all of us are not in the "same boat".

I have an older 300, I am a former marine mechanic and HD truck mechanic, so a lot of my annual cost is in my labor. I have done 100% of all the repairs to my boat so far since I have owned it. Materials are my only costs. This is a reason I trailer it. I want to have it where I can work on it myself any time, I wont pay 4k+ a year for a slip on the lake and I fuel it at QT with non-ethanol gas. Gas that in June was $1.85 in 2020, $2.90 in 2021, $3.89 now.

So for my capacity of 200 gallons, yes rising gas is a serious cost for me.
At 150 gallons per fill-up, those numbers are the difference between:
2020 277.50
2021 435.00 (+$157 per fill) 50% increase
2022 583.50 (+$306 per fill) 110% increase

And how much will it go up between now and June?

So @tc410 I read your response as "If you cant afford what I can you should get out of boating".
As I said good for you that you can do what you do, but it was the response that makes you an ass.

@kevin27 Your response is almost the same, you acknowledge it may get to the point that it affects you but until then you don't care. Well it is at the point it affects a lot of us.

@highslice Let it go man, there are way to many people that will never understand where the average among us are coming from.

So glad I didn’t make the list

 

[GypsmJim]

Today's mail included an electric bill, a gas bill and a grocery bill. If things get any worse, my Social Security check may not cover it all. I'd hate to have to go back to work again.

If I have to I'll give up steak and beer just to be able to take the boat out. But in all reality, boat gas is an option. Eating and keeping the house operational are not.

We can only pray that the voters get some common sense. But, I'm not holding my breath.

 

[Blueone]

Today's mail included an electric bill, a gas bill and a grocery bill..

So Saturday delivery……..Sitting at a bar having lunch at 2:30 in the afternoon last week. This woman sits down beside me in a usps uniform probably 35. She just got finished her deliveries. We get talking about Saturday deliveries…. I think they are ridiculous…. She loses her shit… union was first word out of her mouth. Her point was they can’t carry 6 days of mail in 5 days….. keep in mind she is in a bar at 2:30 being paid her shift isn’t over. She took her beer and moved down the bar….. that hurt a bit
The government shouldn’t run anything let alone a country

 

[highslice]

Today's mail included an electric bill, a gas bill and a grocery bill. If things get any worse, my Social Security check may not cover it all. I'd hate to have to go back to work again.

If I have to I'll give up steak and beer just to be able to take the boat out. But in all reality, boat gas is an option. Eating and keeping the house operational are not.

We can only pray that the voters get some common sense. But, I'm not holding my breath.

When I posted my comments about $10/gallon, I wasn't trying to be insensitive to anyone else's plight. That is my personal situation and I am not trying to project it on anyone else. Boating is my only extravagance. Otherwise we live below our means and I am good with that. If I offended someone, I apologize. We are all boaters here, that is what we have in common and brought us to this forum. I am not here to be judgmental, just to enjoy the camaraderie of people with whom I share a common obsession.

Jim, my Mom is on fixed income. I handle her investments and paying all of her bills. If inflation keeps going, I am not sure how I am going to stretch her income to make ends meet without supplementing it. I understand your situation.

 

[Blueone]

When I posted my comments about $10/gallon, I wasn't trying to be insensitive to anyone else's plight. That is my personal situation and I am not trying to project it on anyone else. Boating is my only extravagance. Otherwise we live below our means and I am good with that. If I offended someone, I apologize. We are all boaters here, that is what we have in common and brought us to this forum. I am not here to be judgmental, just to enjoy the camaraderie of people with whom I share a common obsession.

Jim, my Mom is on fixed income. I handle her investments and paying all of her bills. If inflation keeps going, I am not sure how I am going to stretch her income to make ends meet without supplementing it. I understand your situation.

Why ru apologizing ?

 

[Golfman25]

I don’t care about the price; not rich, I love having one even if it doesn’t move. Many days in summer we just don’t have the energy to deal with canvas, lines, wakes, etc. when the temp is 98 and humidity is 100%. We take a cooler and sit in the Adirondack chairs in the shade on the high ground overlooking the marina/river and thank god we can do that.
I’ve lived thru the 70’s OPEC gas lines and every inflation since, not first rodeo and this won’t last or be the last inflation cycle.
So if I have to spend a summer piloting an Adirondack chair and sucking cold beers while watching people panic and sell boats over gas prices, I’ll take it all year long.

Me too. Add a little live music at the brewery and we are all set.

 

[sbw1]

[QUOTE="ErikE, post: 1296926, member: 59088"
It all factors in. Pipeline...not a big player in my mind. I'm all for the safer Pipeline than trucks and trains...just don't think it has much influence on what we're seeing today.
Just my 2 teaspoons of gas.[/QUOTE]
Pipelines are important. They reduce the need for shipping oil by rail. Warren Buffet owns railroads. We need more rail cars moving oil. We need fewer pipelines. (;-)

 

[GypsmJim]

When I posted my comments about $10/gallon, I wasn't trying to be insensitive to anyone else's plight. That is my personal situation and I am not trying to project it on anyone else. Boating is my only extravagance. Otherwise we live below our means and I am good with that. If I offended someone, I apologize. We are all boaters here, that is what we have in common and brought us to this forum. I am not here to be judgmental, just to enjoy the camaraderie of people with whom I share a common obsession.

Jim, my Mom is on fixed income. I handle her investments and paying all of her bills. If inflation keeps going, I am not sure how I am going to stretch her income to make ends meet without supplementing it. I understand your situation.

I wasn't offended, so no need to apologize.

My comment was made to point out that gas isn't the only problem facing us today. No offense to anyone either, but the truth is if anyone owns a "real" boat they probably aren't too bad off anyway. Those of us that are boaters at heart will always find a way.

This year I was finally FORCED to make a required freaking minimum distribution, even though I didn't need the money. So there's MY gas money...

 

[Blueone]

So let me get this… Girl sits next to you in bar, like a girl with real tits, and you discuss her work, Da Fug !!!! You didn’t tell her how that USPS complimented her fine figure?

Obviously I hate the usps…. I have never seen a more poorly run business in my life…. Why do they need the most expensive real estate on the planet to run their business….. do you see Amazon on water front property or some gigantic building down town that you can drive a semi in under roof…. Just insane…. So yes when a postal worker sits down beside me that’s what they get…. Reality

 

[GypsmJim]

Obviously I hate the usps…. I have never seen a more poorly run business in my life…. Why do they need the most expensive real estate on the planet to run their business….. do you see Amazon on water front property of some gigantic building down town that you can drive a semi in under roof…. Just insane

I hear that a lot. It must be a regional thing.

Personally, I HATE UPS. Just yesterday they delivered my package to the wrong address (it was clearly marked on the box and both houses had addresses clear on the front).

UPS always delivers a day late and the package is damaged. One winter day the driver put it inside the garage (the door was open) under the boat and we didn't find it for a month. If he puts it on the porch he throws it there and then runs away.

USPS always delivers a day early with no damage. Our girl arrives the same time every day, like clockwork. She always smiles and waves and if I'm outside she will hand deliver to me. My local post office has the nicest bunch of clerks. If a package doesn't fit the mail box, its put on the front porch and the door bell is rung.

If I buy online and there is an option, I chose USPS no matter what the cost.

 

[JayhawkCurtis]

Blue you are wrong about the USPS and I have no dog in the fight. As bad as they maybe they are the gold standard in the world. No where else in this planet can you get a letter delivered 3000 miles for < 50 cents.

All that while losing 9 billion a year (at least in 2020)

 

[Blueone]

Blue you are wrong about the USPS and I have no dog in the fight. As bad as they maybe they are the gold standard in the world. No where else in this planet can you get a letter delivered 3000 miles for < 50 cents.

Okay don’t get me started I am all ready getting pissed off …..as a tax payer what did you pay …so some idiot can mail a letter 3,000 miles for 50 cents so it can be delivered on a frickn Saturday ?

 

[Blueone]

And you have no problem paying more for cops, firemen, teachers, sewer workers, on and on?
Eliminate the USPS go for it. Don’t expect a Christmas card from grandma.

I rent a condo in Michigan. Everything associated with the condo rent, gas, electric, cable, garbage, insurance, water bill is all paid by credit card…. Credit card is paid direct from bank account. There is no reason for mail….. mailman gets pissed off at mail box when it over flows with flyers…. Puts them in a plastic bag and leaves it by the door …. I take the bag …don’t look at it and throw it in the garbage

my mom has been sending E cards for ever…. I’m good

 

[GypsmJim]

All that while losing 9 billion a year (at least in 2020)

They lost money because they charge less than the other private carriers. They are simply the best - but they need to raise prices to stay solvent.

BTW, I know several USPS workers and they ALL have nothing but good things to say about their jobs.

 

[Blueone]

And you have no problem paying more for cops, firemen, teachers, sewer workers, on and on?
Eliminate the USPS go for it. Don’t expect a Christmas card from grandma.

Teachers yes I get pissed off…. Our school tax should go where we want our kids to go

 

[GypsmJim]

Credit card is paid direct from bank account. There is no reason for mail…..

That sounds simplistic to me.

Sure, I pay all those things too with no need for mail. But a lot of other things don't fall into that list.

Also, if you buy anything online, how would you get the items delivered? Certainly NOT by the poor service of UPS.

 

[Blueone]

They lost money because they charge less than the other private carriers. .

You have to be joking???
Okay I am done with this thread

 

[my3sons]

Knew a girl UPS no USPS. Hung in our local bar. She would come in AFTER shift in her uniform. As you know women are catty, some bitch took a pic, sent to UPS, she got fired wearing a uniform in a bar.

Yep, wife is retired UPS, wearing the uniform in a bar is grounds for dismissal.
Wife’s sister is USPS letter carrier. It’s awesome...she gets more Timmy Ho cards, candy and home baked goods at Christmas time from the people she delivers to than she could ever eat or use in 5 years. The 10 pounds I gain at the holidays isn’t from Christmas dinner.