The future of EVs? Maybe not so bad?

firecadet613 said:
Do you have a generator at home to charge your EV when your power goes out?
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I remember when Ontario and part of the US had that massive black out when the grid went down. You couldn't buy gasoline because the gas station pumps are electric. I had a full tank and hit the road to head to the cottage where my wife (and boat) were. Maybe poor judgement??? Anyway, one of the few gas stations that had power was in our tiny local town near the cottage that had its own backup generation. So I was able to fill up when I got there. The power was back on sporadically over a few days. I guess those that had backup generators at home/cottage actually would be able to charge up their vehicles. Those with ICEs were out of luck (although maybe could siphon off from the boat to buy a few days)
 
jmauld said:
I have a generator at home. I have had it before the purchase of an EV because I live in an area that gets frequent hurricanes.
I have NO reservations about using it to charge my EV.
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I do as well and plenty of gas. It'll run my whole house. The masses do not have one though...
 
Just passed this one running dealer tags...

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jmauld said:
We’ve been through this before

An ICE car can run off of:
Gasoline
Diesel
Old grease maybe
Corn maybe

An EV can run off of:
Gas
Diesel
Natural Gas
Water
Wind
Solar
Coal
Nuclear
Baby seal blood


which one gives you a higher level of energy freedom?
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The one without a tether...
 
jmauld said:
I have a generator at home. I have had it before the purchase of an EV because I live in an area that gets frequent hurricanes.
I have NO reservations about using it to charge my EV.
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So do you mount it on the hood or the trunk? :)
 
jmauld said:
We’ve been through this before

An ICE car can run off of:
Gasoline
Diesel
Old grease maybe
Corn maybe

An EV can run off of:
Gas
Diesel
Natural Gas
Water
Wind
Solar
Coal
Nuclear
Baby seal blood

which one gives you a higher level of energy freedom?
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Your ICE list is incomplete. You forgot Coal, Trees (or any wood), grass clippings, weeds, leaves, and whale oil. There's probably more. You could just gasify it to CO and burn that, or you could implement the Fischer-Tropsch process which can convert pretty much any carbon-based material to gasoline. That's worked since at least the 1920's. And you can do that in your back yard. Let me see you do that with Nuclear!
 
km1125 said:
Your ICE list is incomplete. You forgot Coal, Trees (or any wood), grass clippings, weeds, leaves, and whale oil. There's probably more. You could just gasify it to CO and burn that, or you could implement the Fischer-Tropsch process which can convert pretty much any carbon-based material to gasoline. That's worked since at least the 1920's. And you can do that in your back yard. Let me see you do that with Nuclear!
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I can buy an ICE car that uses the Fischer-Tropsch process?

Can you show me how to burn leaves in my Sundancer? I have plenty of leaves, but gas is getting expensive.

Keep in mind, anything that gets added to the ICE list gets added to the EV list. The EV list will always be longer.
 
EV’s are smoke and mirrors. Simple as that. They are presented as more environmentally friendly and cheaper to run, both lies. Without subsidies they are not cheaper for most, and the pollution they cause over their life span is nasty.
 
MonacoMike said:
EV’s are smoke and mirrors. Simple as that. They are presented as more environmentally friendly and cheaper to run, both lies. Without subsidies they are not cheaper for most, and the pollution they cause over their life span is nasty.
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Kind of like wind turbines...
 
I just stumbled across this. You guys that pull boats or light campers might be interested. My diesel is similar in that I have to input all the trailer data and then name or number the trailer so the computer knows which trailer it’s pulling.
50% reduction in range is not bad. My truck looses almost that when pulling 16000 pounds shaped like a giant box.
https://insideevs.com/news/586419/ford-f150-lightning-towing-trailer/
 
MonacoMike said:
EV’s are smoke and mirrors. Simple as that. They are presented as more environmentally friendly and cheaper to run, both lies. Without subsidies they are not cheaper for most, and the pollution they cause over their life span is nasty.
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You want to race against my EV?
 
my3sons said:
I just stumbled across this. You guys that pull boats or light campers might be interested. My diesel is similar in that I have to input all the trailer data and then name or number the trailer so the computer knows which trailer it’s pulling.
50% reduction in range is not bad. My truck looses almost that when pulling 16000 pounds shaped like a giant box.
https://insideevs.com/news/586419/ford-f150-lightning-towing-trailer/
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I posted above about a comparison done between an F150 hybrid and a Rivian EV towing a 7000lb trailer. The Rivian only had a range of 90 miles towing that trailer. I can get about 200-250 miles towing our 9000lb boat with my 2018 2500 Ram 6.4 gasser. That would be 4-5 15 minutes stops from Pittsburgh to Florida whereas it would be about 11 or 12 90 or so minutes stops in a Rivian. And IIRC when they tested the Rivian they left the air conditioning off to conserve battery power so on a hot day might be more like 15 stops on a trip to Florida.
 
15 stops yikes!
My truck goes from 18+/- city/highway to 11+/- pulling the 5th wheel. 48 gallon tank (ouch) so 400 plus miles. But it hurts to fill up, but not as bad as the boat.
I don’t use the truck much around home, only when the wife is gone in her car. That’s where I could see an ev. But I don’t want it crammed down my throat by the government. Duryea or Henry Ford didn’t demand that the government build a gas station on every corner when they rolled out the horseless carriage. Things evolve over time. The government can’t do anything right the first time, or two.
Heard today Biden wants charging stations every 50 miles on the nation’s interstates.
 
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