douglee25
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Everytime you go to the bank to withdrawal money, the government pays their debt to you.
Doug
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Tax refunds
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billandamy
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billandamy
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Sorry, Dp (and not the fun kind of DP)
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I think you got mine, I expected to get mind today and didn't know I'm gonna have to yell at someone
billandamy
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I didnt get anyones...we are excluded from this stimulus....:smt013
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I don't know. Is he civil service? They seem to be the ones who specialize on doing nothing.
I don't have any problems with cutting civil service 10-20%. Industry cuts heads when they don't have enough money.
Best regards,
Frank
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Sorry I meant mrsrobinson got ours since they were not expecting one and I was.
Woody
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Your parents should be able to get a stimulus check. If you give them yours they'll probably feel odd about it because you feel odd about it, then they'll probably feel odd about theirs too. So they'll want to give it all away. Can they give it to me?
skibum
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Now hang on just one minute there, partner... :smt021
Say what???
So I go to work every day, and give Uncle Sam in excess of $15,000 over the course of the year. Then they give me $500 now so that I only (ugh) pay $14,500 next April... that comes out ouf your pocket how???? :huh: :wow: :smt101 :wow: :smt100
I'll fix them... I'll lower my own salary next year... phoey on them...
hehe... first post I ever wrote that needed all of the "funky" smilies at the same time :smt043
Woody
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I'll fix them... I'll lower my own salary next year... phoey on them...
Your not looking at it the right way Skibum, you should want to pay more tax......a million, heck even more than that.
Your not looking at it the right way Skibum, you should want to pay more tax......a million, heck even more than that.
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I pay into the Police and Fire pension and my Township matches .... and since I run into burning buildings and risk my life to save yours... fc3.... I don't feel much like a parasite nor do I feel that my services should be cut by 10 to 20%.. NFPA standards call for 18 to 24 firefighters to fight a typical residential fire... I show up with 12 on the first alarm, that is if one or two of my four parmedic ambulances is not out at the hospital or at your house...fc3.... giving aid to one of your loved ones... so hey, a simple thanks or a wave to any of your local parasites (rather than personal attacks and disparaging remarks) will suffice:grin:
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skibum
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Not on your life. I've worked and saved long enough. Time to take a "time out" and float around on the boat all summer. Let some other poor slob pick up the slack and start paying for the 10 families somewhere that I don't know but have had to feed for the past few years. I sure hope that they stocked up on cat food just in case no one steps up...
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I never said anything!!! I only wanted to find out how to get out of not having the government manage my retirement. And thanks for for saving me in the future.
You are so right. What the hell was I thinking? Thanks for doing your part to fund your government.
Woody
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If ya'll think the stimulus refund is "risk free" for the government, you are dreaming. The stimulus is simply a tax reduction in 2008, provided to us ahead of time. The tax tables in next year's tax book will be adjusted to account for it when you fill in your taxes so that the amout of tax you pay is what you would have paid in 07 minus the $600. It really is a cut. Now... If you earn more than the AIG cap in 08 and you didn't in 07, then your rate will go up accordingly and you will end up paying the $600 back.
Skibum
A comment on your tax bracket theory. The tax tables are available for anyone to see, they are not top secret. You should look at them. They actually are the opposite of what you say. The bracket percentages have remained the same and the $ spread is actually larger in each bracket. Meaning that for tax year 2008 they will be taxing more money at lower rates. I'm not saying there couldn't some other change that will have a negative affect but your tax table theory isn't going to do it.
Skibum
A comment on your tax bracket theory. The tax tables are available for anyone to see, they are not top secret. You should look at them. They actually are the opposite of what you say. The bracket percentages have remained the same and the $ spread is actually larger in each bracket. Meaning that for tax year 2008 they will be taxing more money at lower rates. I'm not saying there couldn't some other change that will have a negative affect but your tax table theory isn't going to do it.
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:smt001:smt001:grin::smt001 We're all good........ I'm on my way to launch..... I'll be talking to you all Monday,,:grin: fc3... this lazy, do nothing, government parasite is off for the next 5 days, and it didn't even cost me a single vacation day..:smt038.
and Turtle, the fact is I didn't get in to this profession for the thanks, or for the money (which is a good thing) and having a college degree I could have done other things. I chose to be a firefighetr/paramedic because I grew up admiring my Uncle who was a Cincinnati Fire Captain and I wanted to help people.. I love my job and I'm very proud of what I do.... fc3, I'm one proud parasite.. Now I'm leaving
ciao,
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skibum
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I still had the IRS booklet on my desk and it is where I got the numbers in the earlier post where I used numbers. (I wouldn't use my real ones on the net).
But you just made my point about it being a cut... They just changed the numbers in the tables so that more money will be taxed at a lower rate... $600 lower if your AIG is 80K... That lower rate is where the money is coming from... Taxing more money at a higher rate would be an increase. The only "risk" to the government is that they give you a stimulus check based on your 2007 earnings, and then in 2008 you make a bunch more money than you did in 07 which would make you ineligible for the stimulus cut, rebate, whatever. That risk will be countered by the fact that you will have to pay it back net April because the extra money will fall in the higher bracket. BTW: you do realize that the numbers in the tax tables that we got this year had the lower rates in it to compensate for the stimulus checks we got last year, right? Next April's tables will have the adjustments in them for this round of cuts.
Ok... I'm done with this thread. None of us will ever agree. None of us actually understand the entire tax code. And more important, we aren't talking about BOATING!!! I officially surrender.
Have a great day everybody!
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skibum
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Lt Dan, I think the police and fire departments are way underfunded. It drives me nuts every time someone replies to a proposed tax cut by saying the PDs and FDs will take a hit. Both departments, highway maintenance, and sanitation services should be paid for in full the day after the taxes are collected. These 4 areas should be required items in every county budget at sufficient levels to provide services in excess of what that county needs. Whatever tax revenue is left after that can be used to test risky social engineering schemes.
I get really angry when people even consider cutting PD or FD funding when I see the gov't peeing away money every time I turn around. You guys rule!
Thank you for your service... you parasite... hehe (just kidding)
Michael
I get really angry when people even consider cutting PD or FD funding when I see the gov't peeing away money every time I turn around. You guys rule!
Thank you for your service... you parasite... hehe (just kidding)
Michael
Woody
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All I can say is 'What?". This thread has been like trying to take good pictures of waves.
around here, we have special fire districts, that are separate units of government, that are locally controlled and funded. they have a property tax and a governance structure that is entirely separate from the general county millage or control.
so, there is still the potential for people to cry for cuts, but it is rare. the nice thing is, it is totally outside the control of the local government, so nothing that happens on a municipal level can affect it.
the police and sheriff, however, are units of local government, so those departments have to beg the county commission or city council for money every year.
so, there is still the potential for people to cry for cuts, but it is rare. the nice thing is, it is totally outside the control of the local government, so nothing that happens on a municipal level can affect it.
the police and sheriff, however, are units of local government, so those departments have to beg the county commission or city council for money every year.