Slow down!

I understand the other boaters questioning your need to thread the needle. You said “There was much more room to port. We had a mile of water to port“. While they probably didn’t feel they were in immediate danger it sounds like they questioned the necessity of you being even that near. Seeing the situation develop way out in front of you, you could have slowed enough to prevent overtaking the trawler until the sailboat had passed. Then passed giving the trawler even more room. You could have easily moved to port well in advance and kept both boats to your starboard allowing lots more room. There would have been nothing wrong with your wake or you crossing far enough in front of the sailboat so you could have kept them both on your starboard side. That’s where all the water was, what would be to question. I am really wondering if you waited too long before making your decision and limited your options. In general I agree with your theory “I'm thinking this is open water, if you don't like waves, go back to port” but…...
Here are a couple other threads you started, all the same topic. For some reason your boat is unsure how to behave around the other boats.
http://clubsearay.com/forum/showthread.php?t=23736&highlight=pass
http://clubsearay.com/forum/showthread.php?p=269497&highlight=pass#post269497
 
JV II said:
….. trawler and ….sailboat 100 yards between them. …So, I passed (in between-ed)
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JV II said:
…. I never pass with a wake unless I have 100 yards between us.
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Guess you need to go back and edit your earlier post.

You had 100 yards total for all three boats.
 
I recommend that you go back and read Mike's post.....post #6 ..again. He has it right.

Sometimes the slower boat will tell you to come on by at speed, most of the time they will slow and let you pass at a reduced speed wake, but they all appreciate the courtesy of your asking since they may have passengers below that are caught off guard by your blasting by them.
 
Skuza said:
Well I guess your not getting the answers ya hoped for!
Seriously ya prob shoulda slowed down to pass or if it was open water passed further from them. I hate people that have the whole lake to enjoy but insist on passing within 100yards of ya just because they can. It's just inconsiderate. I hate the guys with the big boats that secretly love to throw big wake and use the excuse "I can't help it!". Also if your passing boats and especially ones moored in shallow waters slow down to avoid damaging them.
Bottom line is we all do things we probably shouldn't have BUT sometimes you still can't please everyone! GO BOATING!
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Ditto!
 
To me this seems simple. It's not the speed or the wake but instead it's the distance or lack there of. 50 yards apart on either side seems a little tight particularly on plane. I think it comes down to how close you want to be considering your speed. The distance at idle is no big deal but I don't want someone overtaking me going WOT only 50 yards away. I'd have waited on the boats to pass each other then would have passed a little wider. That may have required temporarily coming off plane which is something I do all the time to navigate our busy lake. I just don't like the feeling or look of "busting through."
 
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I know if I am truly on "open water", I give a berth of literally 1/2 mile+ to other boats when I'm on plane.

There's nothing wrong with getting on the radio and hailing them and asking them to slow down so you can give them a no-wake pass. That's what I do... about 50% of the time I am met with the sailboater/trawler flipping me the bird or just ignoring me... and which point I proceed at about 14 knots...
 
I'm not as gracious as Gary...
If I'm heading in from offshore and there's a boat dead ahead of me, I'm not gonna bump the AP to get me 1/2 mile away from them. No how, no way.

I'm looking out my window, at the homes on the opposite side of the canal. Lots are 50 ft. wide, so it's easy to see exactly what 150 feet- half a football field- looks like.

Some here are calling that "threading the needle"??? Seriously???

Our main channel is under 100 feet wide, and 1-1/2 miles long. It's not a "no wake zone"...

I run past boats all the time with less than that. As does every other boat that goes by me offshore.
 
Woody said:
I understand the other boaters questioning your need to thread the needle. You said “There was much more room to port. We had a mile of water to port“. While they probably didn’t feel they were in immediate danger it sounds like they questioned the necessity of you being even that near. Seeing the situation develop way out in front of you, you could have slowed enough to prevent overtaking the trawler until the sailboat had passed. Then passed giving the trawler even more room. You could have easily moved to port well in advance and kept both boats to your starboard allowing lots more room. There would have been nothing wrong with your wake or you crossing far enough in front of the sailboat so you could have kept them both on your starboard side. That’s where all the water was, what would be to question. I am really wondering if you waited too long before making your decision and limited your options. In general I agree with your theory “I'm thinking this is open water, if you don't like waves, go back to port” but…...
Here are a couple other threads you started, all the same topic. For some reason your boat is unsure how to behave around the other boats.
http://clubsearay.com/forum/showthread.php?t=23736&highlight=pass
http://clubsearay.com/forum/showthread.php?p=269497&highlight=pass#post269497
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Dad? Is that you?
Really, let's take a pole. In about 200 engine hours I, a power boater, had 3 incidents all reported here. How many incidents like this has everyone else had in the last 200 hours? I'm just wondering if I'm above average.
 
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tobnpr said:
I'm not as gracious as Gary...
If I'm heading in from offshore and there's a boat dead ahead of me, I'm not gonna bump the AP to get me 1/2 mile away from them. No how, no way.

I'm looking out my window, at the homes on the opposite side of the canal. Lots are 50 ft. wide, so it's easy to see exactly what 150 feet- half a football field- looks like.

Some here are calling that "threading the needle"??? Seriously???

Our main channel is under 100 feet wide, and 1-1/2 miles long. It's not a "no wake zone"...

I run past boats all the time with less than that. As does every other boat that goes by me offshore.
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Thank you. That puts it into perspective, which reminds me that our canal, the Cape Cod Canal is 180 yards wide. Anyone travel through the Canal? It is a no wake zone. In there, you have everyone running with a wake, some on plane. The wakes are large enough to have buried the bow of my 290. Worse than that, they rebound off of the shore and constructively interfere causing twice the height and confused seas. People have places to go. You would drive yourself crazy getting mad at every boater in there. With that in mind, I would not travel there in a small sailboat or bow rider. You assume some risk at sea. To get mad at others when you take to open water is irrational. I revised my methods and no longer as a general rule allow 100 yards between my boat and another before I consider passing with a wake.
 
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I've been boating in and around Boston Harbor as a kid since the 70's (kept my boat at Marina Bay for 8 years) and can understand your situation. Every waterway is a little bit different and BH has its share of high-speed commuter ferries and a ton of recreational boaters on the weekend. Everyone flying around doing their own thing.

What you did is the norm all around the harbor on a typical weekend day. The people in the blow-boat or the trawler may not have been familiar with the area...

It is what it is... don't let it ruin your next time out
 
JV II said:
Dad? Is that you?
Really, let's take a pole. In about 200 hours I, a power boater, had 3 incidents all reported here. How many incidents like this has everyone else had in the last 200 hours? I'm just wondering if I'm above average.
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:huh::smt043
 
I think it goes back to

a - What may be perfectly acceptable in one boating area could be downright rude elsewhere. Make sure you are following acceptable norms for your area (in addition to safe and lawful boating practices). Around here, giving 150' would be considered kind.

b - None of us were there to understand the exact situation JV II was in. Maybe there was plenty of room, and the other captain(s) over-reacted. Maybe he could have waited until the sailboat passed by, and then passed the trawler with a wider berth. Or maybe there was a string of boats following the sailboat preventing that option.
 
Four Suns said:
There's nothing wrong with getting on the radio and hailing them and asking them to slow down so you can give them a no-wake pass. That's what I do... about 50% of the time I am met with the sailboater/trawler flipping me the bird or just ignoring me... and which point I proceed at about 14 knots...
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+1

I make a point to wave just before I pass. A wave back I'll throttle immediately all the way down and take the good 5 minutes to pass with as minimal wake as possible. This costs me considerable $$$ (probably $15-$30 each time) but I do appreciate kindness / comrade on the water.

However, assuming most sailboats are environmentaly concerned, I always wonder if they knew how much extra fuel this consumes if they'd rather me stay on plane?

In the rare case I get the bird, I just reply with kindness. Wave twice as much and pretend I'm oblivious to their gesture...
 
And to stir the pot even more...is a big boat guy really complaining about $20-30? I always thought that was a funny angle to play. This is boating and EVERYTHING costs$$$!
Done here...Goodnight
 
Skuza said:
And to stir the pot even more...is a big boat guy really complaining about $20-30? I always thought that was a funny angle to play. This is boating and EVERYTHING costs$$$!
Done here...Goodnight
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$30 is a good bottle of rum. Them's fightin' words.
 
Boatingfool said:
+1

I make a point to wave just before I pass. A wave back I'll throttle immediately all the way down and take the good 5 minutes to pass with as minimal wake as possible. This costs me considerable $$$ (probably $15-$30 each time) but I do appreciate kindness / comrade on the water.

However, assuming most sailboats are environmentaly concerned, I always wonder if they knew how much extra fuel this consumes if they'd rather me stay on plane?

In the rare case I get the bird, I just reply with kindness. Wave twice as much and pretend I'm oblivious to their gesture...
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I am ole school, the bigger boat gets the right-a-way. :smt021
 
the more you idle, the longer the range. I pull back for all boats because I'm nice of course.
 
JV, F them . Keep doing what you're doing you did nothing WRONG !!!. :thumbsup:
So you ran into 2 cry babies. :smt089. That doesn't make them right in telling you to slow down in open waters. .
 
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