Slow down!

JV II, after reviewing the video posted by Presentation, I think it's clear that you were operating your vessel properly! Did you get the scratch in your anchor fixed?
 
chumbley said:
The only thing that would cause me to question your choice is that BOTH boats wanted you to slow down. Odds are against you finding two weenie boaters at the same time...
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Don't you know that trawler captains are blow boaters who have come to their senses? So, what I had was 2 blow boaters telling me to slow down.

That's it. You guys are all weenies. I'm hanging with Wayne.
 
JV II said:
That's it. You guys are all weenies. I'm hanging with Wayne.
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Hmmmmm, we're all weenies because we didn't feel sorry for you. Interesting response on your part.

What your response tells me (if indeed you were serious) is that you might have a tendency to rock others with your wake to show them you're man enough to do it and have a boat that's capable of doing it.

Most of us have been rocked at one time or another by someone who was inconsiderate about his wake. That has made us hyper aware of what our wakes are capable of doing and also made us more considerate of others on the water.

You're the only one who knows if you could/should have done that pass differently. If you could have, perhaps you'll keep that in mind the next time you find yourself in a similar situation.
 
chumbley said:
Some people get overly excited for some reason. The only thing that would cause me to question your choice is that BOTH boats wanted you to slow down. Odds are against you finding two weenie boaters at the same time...
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But one WAS a sailboat!
 
Gofirstclass said:
Hmmmmm, we're all weenies because we didn't feel sorry for you. Interesting response on your part.

That's not what I said. The thread turned light and funny. It was a joke. Didn't mean to hurt your feelings. You always this way? Lighten up.
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chumbley said:
...If you feel like you would do it slightly different next time, then perhaps you made the wrong decision this time.
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Let me think this thru for a second.....JV had 150' between 2 boats, he slowed down, he passed those boats safelly throwing slightly bigger wake than those two boats would like, nobody was hurt or put in any danger (as far as we know). Then, he opens and thread to seek advice of how to possibly perform such pass in a different way (may be in better way or may be what he did was just fine) and you call this "wrong decision"? Sorry, it makes no sense to me. I've been in these situations plenty of times (although, I don't recall people waving with both hands) and we have to give JV a credit for posting it, b/c besides helping understand the best course of action in these situations many other folks will find this thread helpfull as well.

I guess, the biggest difference is the body of water you're in. I think that in my local waters (shallow water with tiny channel) sailboaters might have wave thank you for not getting 50' from them. I'm all for proper and respectfull boating manners, but if I have to go .5mile out of my way or slow down to displaysment speed for every boat that goes slower than me, then might as well to stay at the dock during busy weekends.
 
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JV II said:
Ken, you just made it on my beer buddy list.
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Sweet! Just a long way to go grab a beer with someone....but I have flown to Pittsburg PA on a moments notice for a party before!
 
WE boat on the river and have these same issues all the time. WE try to come down to displacement speed when overtaking boats I cant pass on the port or starboard side giving plently of room to have my wake have little or no eefect when it readhes the other boat.
 
Alex F said:
Let me think this thru for a second.....JV had 150' between 2 boats, he slowed down, he passed those boats safelly throwing slightly bigger wake than those two boats would like, nobody was hurt or put in any danger (as far as we know). Then, he opens and thread to seek advice of how to possibly perform such pass in a different way (may be in better way or may be what he did was just fine) and you call this "wrong decision"? Sorry, it makes no sense to me. I've been in these situations plenty of times (although, I don't recall people waving with both hands) and we have to give JV a credit for posting it, b/c besides helping understand the best course of action in these situations many other folks will find this thread helpfull as well.

I guess, the biggest difference is the body of water you're in. I think that in my local waters (shallow water with tiny channel) sailboaters might have wave thank you for not getting 50' from them. I'm all for proper and respectfull boating manners, but if I have to go .5mile out of my way or slow down to displaysment speed for every boat that goes slower than me, then might as well to stay at the dock during busy weekends.
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Maybe I wasn't clear - I didn't say it was the wrong decision. I wasn't there, and clearly people are reading the situation differently here. I suggested that he simply reflect, and if he is still comfortable with his approach, then it was probably the right one. And if he, after reflection, would have done it differently, then maybe it wasn't the right choice.

We've all done it. We've all learned. And I do think he gets extra credit for posting for comment. And it says something (positive) about him.
 
wvsundancer said:
WE boat on the river and have these same issues all the time. WE try to come down to displacement speed when overtaking boats I cant pass on the port or starboard side giving plently of room to have my wake have little or no eefect when it readhes the other boat.
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Anyone in a 50' or under Sundancer that thinks they can pass a 40' trawler at displacement speed needs to retake boating 101. A 40' trawler with a displacement hull lopes along at a good 9 knots. A Sundancer with a planing hull can't beat that at "displacement" speed. If you want to pass the trawler, you need to get your planing hull on plane or else fall in and fall behind.
 
I have always slowed down when passing or approaching sailboats on the ICW, then one day I did it and the captain called me on the radio and said I did not have to slow down for him. So I am still confused, I guess it does depend on who is at the helm.
 
JV II said:
Anyone in a 50' or under Sundancer that thinks they can pass a 40' trawler at displacement speed needs to retake boating 101. A 40' trawler with a displacement hull lopes along at a good 9 knots. A Sundancer with a planing hull can't beat that at "displacement" speed. If you want to pass the trawler, you need to get your planing hull on plane or else fall in and fall behind.
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I was wondering how "slow down and pass" would work! Like you, I stay on plane, give them enough space to be safe and courteous, or wait until I can.
 
Hellman Huddle said:
I have always slowed down when passing or approaching sailboats on the ICW, then one day I did it and the captain called me on the radio and said I did not have to slow down for him. So I am still confused, I guess it does depend on who is at the helm.
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I have had the same thing happen to me, the sail boater radioed “why did I give him such a wide pass” ???? Well how would you like me to pass you? I guess some just like it rough!
 
JV, as you can see there are many opinions on this, and those opinions are given without knowledge of ALL the specifics of the circumstance you were dealling with. That being said, when it comes to etiquette/seamanship, there is one recognized gospel on this that even maritime law uses when needed.

Check out page 160 of Chapman's . Perhaps you should have signaled first if you didn't. That being said, a vessel being overtaken should also slow down, so that the overtaken vessel can slow down and reduce wake, too. It's all in there and far more recognized on the subject than all of us combined.

If anyone doesn't have the book, or more importantly read it, I'd suggest it as a prerequisite to being a boat owner.

Now back to the sideline to watch the banter...
 
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ChuckW said:
JV, as you can see there are many opinions on this, and those opinions are given without knowledge of ALL the specifics of the circumstance you were dealling with. That being said, when it comes to etiquette/seamanship, there is one recognized gospel on this that even maritime law uses when needed.

Check out page 160 of Chapman's . Perhaps you should have signaled first if you didn't. That being said, a vessel being overtaken should also slow down, so that the overtaken vessel can slow down and reduce wake, too. It's all in there and far more recognized on the subject than all of us combined.

If anyone doesn't have the book, or more importantly read it, I'd suggest it as a prerequisite to being a boat owner.

Now back to the sideline to watch the banter...
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Good point, but my horn is crap and nobody seems to monitor the VHF. I've tried that before. It would ne nice.
 
JV II said:
Good point, but my horn is crap and nobody seems to monitor the VHF. I've tried that before. It would ne nice.
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I have one of these since my SeaRay issue duck in a can horn is embarrassing.

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I have that one too, but it hurts my ears with all the canvas up.
 
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