I've got the original quick connects in my '99. No leaks, yet! (knocking on wood as we speak). Over the years, they've been very reliable for us at the shop - taking into account all the boats we see.
Restoring the Fresh Water System
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I've got the original quick connects in my '99. No leaks, yet! (knocking on wood as we speak). Over the years, they've been very reliable for us at the shop - taking into account all the boats we see.
AKBASSKING
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Yes it is and I have a few more busted knuckles to prove it.
AKBASSKING
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That is the reason I got them because of the tight fits. I also liked the idea of being able to take it back apart if needed. I saw the same kind of system in WM, but twice the price. The Pex tubing cost me $25 for 100'.
Today I also installed a "T" fitting before the strainer (right after the tank inlet in the "Hell Hole") I went from ther to a valve. Made it acessable when I left the floor. This will drain the tank.
AKBASSKING
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Well got my long awaited parts, water pump, hot water heater and my Deck fills.
I was reading the instructions on the electric on-demand hot water heater. The installation is more than just hooking up the water lines and electric to it.
You have to install at least 2 valves to restrict flow. One on the outlet of the heater and the other on the cold water side of your system. It states that full flow through the heater will not allow enough time for the unit to heat the water. The flow restriction on the cold water part of the system is to allow the same flow for cold water and for hot water.
I am a little hesitate about this as the Admiral like good pressure to wash her hair. But then again pressure and flow are two different things.
We will see. This is what I got:
EEMAX INC.
Electric Instantaneous Water Heater, 20 Amps.
I was reading the instructions on the electric on-demand hot water heater. The installation is more than just hooking up the water lines and electric to it.
You have to install at least 2 valves to restrict flow. One on the outlet of the heater and the other on the cold water side of your system. It states that full flow through the heater will not allow enough time for the unit to heat the water. The flow restriction on the cold water part of the system is to allow the same flow for cold water and for hot water.
I am a little hesitate about this as the Admiral like good pressure to wash her hair. But then again pressure and flow are two different things.
We will see. This is what I got:
EEMAX INC.
Electric Instantaneous Water Heater, 20 Amps.
K-9
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- Jul 4, 2009
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:smt001I have talked to plumbers about the on damand heaters and was told "water needs to be running 15 sec. befor it starts to heat water"
I replaced my hot water tank/electric 120 shore power only
did not hook-up to motor for heating ,one less thing to leak.:thumbsup:
I replaced my hot water tank/electric 120 shore power only
did not hook-up to motor for heating ,one less thing to leak.:thumbsup:
stevea661
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- 268 sundancer, humminbird 797c fish finder / chart plotter /gps combo, lowrance lms 400 with np-60 f
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- OMC Cobra 1.41 final drive ratio. 5.7 rebuilt to 300 hp 11/ 08. Hustler 15. x 15 prop. reman quadraj
Tom are you using an sp2412, If so I don't think you will be happy with the performance. These are used for laves in public rest rooms. They are ok to wash your hands with at .5gpm, but to shower with or to fill up a sink to wash dishes with I don't think you will be very happy.Well got my long awaited parts, water pump, hot water heater and my Deck fills.
I was reading the instructions on the electric on-demand hot water heater. The installation is more than just hooking up the water lines and electric to it.
You have to install at least 2 valves to restrict flow. One on the outlet of the heater and the other on the cold water side of your system. It states that full flow through the heater will not allow enough time for the unit to heat the water. The flow restriction on the cold water part of the system is to allow the same flow for cold water and for hot water.
I am a little hesitate about this as the Admiral like good pressure to wash her hair. But then again pressure and flow are two different things.
We will see. This is what I got:
EEMAX INC.
Electric Instantaneous Water Heater, 20 Amps.
AKBASSKING
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I may want to go with the 3512? I was a little worried about the 29amp draw on a generator.
Here are the specs: http://www.eemaxinc.com/images/rvmarinespecs.pdf
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AKBASSKING
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Well, Steve I called Eemax this morning and inquired about their product. I was very impressed. She asked me first where I would be operating the boat. She was upfront with me, stating that the rise in temp would only be 33-48 depending on the model at .5gpm. If my water is 55f, well in my book that is a warm shower. In the Admiral’s book that is a "cold" shower!
So I am looking now at the Isotherm hot water heater. Any comments on this product??
Dang I am going to have to do some re-routing of water lines......
K-9
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:smt001 I am glad to see all the great work you are doing and you do Love her and we can see it thanks for the photos of all the tips, I like hot water for washing up so I went with a new tank and pex ,,,,Nice to see I am not the only guy refitting a OLD SEA RAY Good Job.:thumbsup:.
AKBASSKING
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Thanks K-9. Sometimes though it feels you take one step forward and three back!!
I was all excited about an on-demand water heater, but it looks like I will be going back to the original type.
Now if I could just exterminate the squirrels around here that keep dropping hickory nut shells on my boat, that create an awful stain on my just shined deck, well then I would be a happy camper!! Just have to be careful not to shoot the boat!:smt009:smt013
stevea661
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- 268 sundancer, humminbird 797c fish finder / chart plotter /gps combo, lowrance lms 400 with np-60 f
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- OMC Cobra 1.41 final drive ratio. 5.7 rebuilt to 300 hp 11/ 08. Hustler 15. x 15 prop. reman quadraj
The small on demand, point of use water heaters are pretty much only good for hand wash sinks In a large building sometimes it's cheaper than running a hot water system to a remote location. I've installed larger ones that work well but they are 220 volt 30 to 45 amp, all the hot water you want. My boat has no generator and 120 volt shore power with like a 30 amp main breaker. Mine doesn't have an electric system to support one of these. The other problem with on demand is that they require maintenance, They need to be cleaned out with viniger about once or twice a year depending on the hardness of the water being used. I would just go with a regular boat water heater in mine. I don't know anything about boat water heaters though. I removed mine and looped the coolant and water lines. Just like a plumber huh:lol:. Go with the 316ss. Seems to be a nice heater at 750 watts it won't recover too fast but you could go for the biggest one you can fit and shower together.
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Tail Chaser 661
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- Furuno Navnet radar/chartplotter, fish finder, bait tank, 85 Gal main fuel tank, 75gal aux tank.
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- Merc 8.1 Mag 375 HP / Bravo III,4 blade prop. 28mph at 3200rpm.
I had done a some research on the isotherm. Seems to be one of the best quality units out there, Stainless tank, No electrolysis issues. Some guys said there water was still hot after 24 hrs. The heating element is only 750w compared to 1500w on the other mfg's heaters. Nice if your using a small genny. $400.00 more then the 6 gal alum square heaters. Ouch!
stevea661
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- 268 sundancer, humminbird 797c fish finder / chart plotter /gps combo, lowrance lms 400 with np-60 f
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- OMC Cobra 1.41 final drive ratio. 5.7 rebuilt to 300 hp 11/ 08. Hustler 15. x 15 prop. reman quadraj
It's only money and it's not mine or yours:grin:. 316 stainless tank should last almost forever. When I pulled my aluminum heater it didn't have a bottom. Now I don't have a water heater. But after I get everything else fixed, that isotherm looks like the way to go. When you pull the bandaid off it only hurts for a second. Want to go kill fish thursday.:thumbsup:
Tail Chaser 661
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- Merc 8.1 Mag 375 HP / Bravo III,4 blade prop. 28mph at 3200rpm.
When I was pulling my heater. My engine water intake to the heater just broke off. So I was very close to a bad day on the water. The 1K honda portable fits under my V birth. The 2K honda doesn't. So a 750W heater is the way to go for my application. Only another $1600.00 worth of bandages added on top of my body cast. :smt100:lol:
PM sent on the fishing.
AKBASSKING
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I think I will be going back to a regular heater. I would like to get the Isotherm, but dang they want a lot of gold for them.......................
I have a friend that makes Stamis boats and he has a HWH for the right price.......new and free.
AKBASSKING
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Well update:
I installed the new water deck fill today. I used wood filler to seal the fiberglass and when I tighten down the screws I got good sealant squish. The pipe deck fill was the only one that would work so I had to install a reducer. I took a piece of starboard and made a backing plate
Now I am hesitant to install the water pump as I may have to relocate a few water lines to install a HWH. But I won't be getting this until around November.
The Admiral ordered the counter top today, so I get to learn how to cut and install fermica. The hardest thing we are finding is a replacement sink for the galley. It can only be 13" wide and we wanted a little larger and deeper sink.
She has a few leads but $400 for a sink is just plain crazy.
I installed the new water deck fill today. I used wood filler to seal the fiberglass and when I tighten down the screws I got good sealant squish. The pipe deck fill was the only one that would work so I had to install a reducer. I took a piece of starboard and made a backing plate
Now I am hesitant to install the water pump as I may have to relocate a few water lines to install a HWH. But I won't be getting this until around November.
The Admiral ordered the counter top today, so I get to learn how to cut and install fermica. The hardest thing we are finding is a replacement sink for the galley. It can only be 13" wide and we wanted a little larger and deeper sink.
She has a few leads but $400 for a sink is just plain crazy.
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AKBASSKING
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AKBASSKING
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No not yet. I have to get a hot water heater and finish it. More to come when I finish the bottom paint
connie garcy
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Hi Tom,
Great job you are doing. I have a question for you. Before you started this project, did you have a leak from the fresh water fill cap. As you can see we have this wonderful leak everytime it rains and Sea Ray seems to think it is coming from the fill cap. My husband sealed all around the outside, but it still leaks. This is not going to be a fun job trying to get everything out to access the filler cap. As you can see from the pictures, the water starts at the bottom corner of the rail then gets soaked up and then runs down on the floor.
Great job you are doing. I have a question for you. Before you started this project, did you have a leak from the fresh water fill cap. As you can see we have this wonderful leak everytime it rains and Sea Ray seems to think it is coming from the fill cap. My husband sealed all around the outside, but it still leaks. This is not going to be a fun job trying to get everything out to access the filler cap. As you can see from the pictures, the water starts at the bottom corner of the rail then gets soaked up and then runs down on the floor.