Question: Replacing Sea Ray Navigators with E120s

[Big Al]

This is some information regarding having a network of C units.

Another issue...if you got the C series and not the E series, I don't think that you will be able to network them and share the radar/chartploter info accross screens....only the E's are networkable..so you need two E's....

I haven't looked at the specs, but I think the new C-series wide screen jobbers they released a month ago or so had better networking between two displays than the original ones.... but don't hold me to that.

Exactly. I asked the question to a Raymarine Tech a while ago. This is the answer for the "old" C series:

".....The suggested installation is referred to as a multistation configuration, typically the domain of Raymarine's E-Series displays (http://www.raymarine.com/raymarine/Default.asp?site=1&SECTion=2&Page=1007&Parent=2). While it is possible to install a second C-Series display and interface it to the currently installed C-Series Display and GPS sensor via a common SeaTalk network bus, communications will be limited to alphanumeric GPS, instrument, and navigational data. Unlike E-Series displays, it is not possible to share fishfinder, radar, Sirius Satellite Weather, or Navionics cartography between C-Series displays. As such, if a second C-Series display is installed, it would be necessary to either have a second Navionics chart card in the additional C-Series display or move the Navionics chart card to the display that will be in use and it would not be possible to have the second C-Series display function as a fishfinder. The proper equipment to be installed onboard would be a pair of E-Series displays when outfitting the vessel for multistation capability....."


And you are right Gary, this is info from the specs of the new C - W series :




".....Building your C-Series Widescreen Network is easier than ever with SeaTalkhs. Build a single widescreen display or create a dual display C-Series Widescreen network using SeaTakhs to share radar, chartplotting, fishfinder, weather and navigation functions between two C-Series Widescreen displays. The C90W also supports SeaTalk and SeaTalkng protocols for seamless integration with a Raymarine external GPS sensor, LifeTag, SeaTalk instruments and SeaTalk autopilots. NMEA 0183 and NMEA 2000 support is also standard on the C90W providing easy integration with 3rd party electronics and engine monitoring...."

 

[Four Suns]

Or, listen to Four Suns or osd9 and accept that any Searay Raymarine system will have a pedestal of the correct serial number and that it will work.

So, according to those two, a Searay with an RL80C or RL80CRC plus open array and a Searay Navigator will work, because the pedestal has an acceptable serial number.

I never said that ass clown. The original question was about a 2005 48 Sundancer with dual Sea Ray Navigators with a non-Raymarine radar and my responses are for that. It wasn't about your butchered up boat or RL series products or pre-2005 antennas. Any Raymarine array installed on a 2005 48 Sundancer at the factory will work with an E-series.

Are you so freeking blind you can't see that NO ONE agrees with you? Even a business owner that specializes in marine electronics? Do you walk around in life going "the world is wrong and I am right" all the time?

You've made far more than 3 technical mistakes here. The latest is your wonderful take-a-pressure-washer-to-an-outdrive advice.

You are arrogant and don't know what you don't know which makes you dangerous. You must be related to Nancy Pelosi. Hell... maybe you are Nancy Pelosi... Shall we start calling you Nancy?

 

[Four Suns]

 

[jrirvine1]

Another issue...if you got the C series and not the E series, I don't think that you will be able to network them and share the radar/chartploter info accross screens....only the E's are networkable..so you need two E's....

Correct but . . . I think you only NEED two “E’s” if you have two separate helm stations.

With my new set up the “C’s” share information via seatalk such as depth, gps fix and all other data displayable on the data bar. Radar is on the port screen and chartplotter on the starboard. Radar can not switch screens as it is wired directly into the port side. Chartplotter can be viewed on either screen but it is necessary to switch cards or have one card in each unit. But switching screens in a moot point at least for me, due to the single helm station with both units next to each other.

 

[osd9]

And look...a trinary background....:grin:

(note: no disrescpect meant to our flag or our great country for which it stands....just a little humor here)

 

[osd9]

Correct but . . . I think you only NEED two “E’s” if you have two separate helm stations.

With my new set up the “C’s” share information via seatalk such as depth, gps fix and all other data displayable on the data bar. Radar is on the port screen and chartplotter on the starboard. Radar can not switch screens as it is wired directly into the port side. Chartplotter can be viewed on either screen but it is necessary to switch cards or have one card in each unit. But switching screens in a moot point at least for me, due to the single helm station with both units next to each other.

Jim....so long as both screens are functional, I agree that you don't need the screens networked...it's more of a convenience or a 'fun factor'. I only brought that up as the discussion, somewhere up top here, was headed in the direction of sharing information accross the screens...(.I'm not inclined to re-read this whole mess again...unless of cours someone mis-quotes me or takes a quote of mine out of context again)....so I wanted to provide some additional information on what the limitations might be with two C's.

I inturn learned about the new C-W's as the discussion progressed.

 

[wingless]

The information provided by wingless continues to be correct and accurate.

The E120 requires a Raymarine pedestal with the correct serial number, as shown in the Raymarine link provided.

Or, listen to Four Suns or osd9 and accept that any Searay Raymarine system will have a pedestal of the correct serial number and that it will work.

So, according to those two, a Searay with an RL80C or RL80CRC plus open array and a Searay Navigator will work, because the pedestal has an acceptable serial number.

I never said that ass clown.

Actually you did.

So if you get a boat with Raymarine stuff and a single Sea Ray Navigator, it's pretty easy to swap out the Sea Ray Navigator for a secondary Raymarine display.

So go ahead and modify one of your latest errors to coincide with the correct information that I've been providing all along. Maybe there is hope for you yet... HA! HA! HA!

 

[Four Suns]

Nancy,

We are talking about a 2005 48 Sundancer... go read page 1. Go read my first response where I use the word "compatible".

Are you emotionally stable?

 

[Nehalennia]

Trip to the Marine Electronics store........$15,000.
3M 4200, jigsaw, hole saw, wiring looms, zip ties, mounting hardware..........$225.00
Dinner out with the Mrs. to make up for spending all day reading CSR thread about the gear you just purchased..........$175.00
Realizing some of the equipment you just bought won't work as you read here......'Wingless'

 

[Big Al]

Wow, what a great contribution to a boat forum you make....Is it difficult to learn all these words ? and this is only in this thread....

Beware the pot head forum troll.

Having your period, or is that continuous?

Beware the pot head forum troll.

The pot head doesn't hesitate to provide incorrect information, even when accurate information has already been provided.

The dork butt information is wrong!

Listen to the forum troll and go w/ an E120 w/o checking ifin the Raymarine pedestal will work. Or, check first, as I've stated.

Yes, correct information is bad advice for trolls.

 

[mistercomputerman]

Is it possible to vote someone out of this forum? If so, what is the proper procedure?

 

[DGAM]

if you have one e120 already and one navigator , all running off ray marine network
what all has to be done to replace navigator with an e120 display to = 2 e120s

 

[DGAM]

if you have one e120 already and one navigator , all running off ray marine network
what all has to be done to replace navigator with an e120 display to = 2 e120s

Anyone do this>

 

[La Maddalena]

This is a very old (and entertaining!) thread but I have a new question. We just purchased a 2004 SR 420 Sundancer with the Raymarine hsb2 PLUS color radar and the Sea Ray Navigator chart plotter. I am aware that the two devices don't share screen information (e.g. no radar on the SR Navigator). The SR Navigator hard drive and screen were replaced in Sept 2012 and the software and charts upgraded at the same time - therefore charts are now 3 years old. I haven't done a complete search of CSR, but couldn't find much info on Maptech on the internet. Is Maptech still in business? Can the SR Navigator charts still be upgraded?

 

[CAMELLA]

This is a very old (and entertaining!) thread but I have a new question. We just purchased a 2004 SR 420 Sundancer with the Raymarine hsb2 PLUS color radar and the Sea Ray Navigator chart plotter. I am aware that the two devices don't share screen information (e.g. no radar on the SR Navigator). The SR Navigator hard drive and screen were replaced in Sept 2012 and the software and charts upgraded at the same time - therefore charts are now 3 years old. I haven't done a complete search of CSR, but couldn't find much info on Maptech on the internet. Is Maptech still in business? Can the SR Navigator charts still be upgraded?

I would contact Mark Pringle, he can help you. 410-266-9494
http://www.nsiworldwide.com/srni3repair.shtml