Question: Replacing Sea Ray Navigators with E120s

[Four Suns]

JRIRVINE1 Re; the replacment of the SRN II's. Did you have to change out the array as well?

Jim would not have to replace his scanner because he got a Raymarine system AND and single Sea Ray Navigator.

When Sea Ray ships a boat with the Navigator, you have two options:

1. All Sea Ray Navigator stuff tied to a Simrad/Maptech/Koden radar antenna

2. Raymarine stuff (or other party) with the radar being tied to the Raymarine antenna and the Sea Ray Navigator set up to work WITHOUT the radar but only as a chartplotter.

Radar antennas are typically tied to the manufacturers displays. They are not a mix and match items. When the original poster said he had TWO Sea Ray Navigators and the radar was displayed on them, it meant he did NOT have a Raymarine radar antenna. It meant he did have a Simrad/Maptech antenna instead. That's why telling the guy to go to the Raymarine site and look up antenna model numbers was silly.

So if you get a boat with Raymarine stuff and a single Sea Ray Navigator, it's pretty easy to swap out the Sea Ray Navigator for a secondary Raymarine display. If you get a boat with TWO Sea Ray Navigators, you'll have to replace the radar antenna unless you get a new chartplotter compatable with the Simrad/Koden antenna (don't do that). That's what I was saying about looking at two boats that are the same and one has all Sea Ray Navigators vs. one that has a single Navigator and Raymarine stuff. It'll cost more to switch the all Navigator boat over due to the antenna issue.

This is not that hard to understand.

 

[osd9]

Another issue...if you got the C series and not the E series, I don't think that you will be able to network them and share the radar/chartploter info accross screens....only the E's are networkable..so you need two E's....

 

[Four Suns]

I haven't looked at the specs, but I think the new C-series wide screen jobbers they released a month ago or so had better networking between two displays than the original ones.... but don't hold me to that.

 

[jff]

Yes, I would be getting either 1 E120 or if I pay extra two E120's. Considering also two G120s, I've seen demos of them and love some of the capabilities. And yes the boat has two SR Navs so I assume it would need a new radar antenna to move to the Raymarines. Anyone pay for one of those+install recently and want to share what that cost?

Regards,
Jason

 

[unklbuck]

have you looked at Furuno's navnetvx3?
i took out my raymarine 41xx stuff and put in all navnetvx2 stuff 3 years ago with the furuno radar on my sea ray and really like it
but also got an everglades with two E-120s and very happy with that system too
wondered if the v3 stuff is as good as the reviews?

 

[Four Suns]

OK... I went and looked up the Sea Ray Navigator III option:

It appears that Koden makes the radar antenna for the system. Who the hell knows who OEMs what from whom for these PC-based systems anymore. I assume Simrad/Koden/Maptech/Nobeltec are all the same antennas... It's still not a Raymarine compatable antenna though as I said.

I notice that Maptech is no longer advertising/selling the i3 on their website. Is this a dead product? Who is making the Sea Ray Navigator now? Anyone? Wingless?

 

[wingless]

JRIRVINE1 Re; the replacment of the SRN II's. Did you have to change out the array as well?

Jim would not have to replace his scanner because he got a Raymarine system AND and single Sea Ray Navigator.

So if you get a boat with Raymarine stuff and a single Sea Ray Navigator, it's pretty easy to swap out the Sea Ray Navigator for a secondary Raymarine display. If you get a boat with TWO Sea Ray Navigators, you'll have to replace the radar antenna unless you get a new chartplotter compatable with the Simrad antenna (don't do that). That's what I was saying about looking at two boats that are the same and one has all Sea Ray Navigators vs. one that has a single Navigator and Raymarine stuff. It'll cost more to switch the all Navigator boat over due to the antenna issue.

The pot head doesn’t hesitate to provide incorrect information, even when accurate information has already been provided.

The dork butt information is wrong!

As I’ve stated, as I’ve substantiated w/ links to Raymarine technical data, the E120 will only work with newer pedestals.

Listen to the forum troll and go w/ an E120 w/o checking ifin the Raymarine pedestal will work. Or, check first, as I’ve stated.

Dont waste ur breathe ... He just posts shit to see what sticks. Sadly someone might listen to this arse one day.... I called him out a few weeks ago posting junk about marine a/c's ...

The information I provided there has the same veracity as that provided here.

 

[osd9]

Wing....the newer boats that came from the factory with either the C or E screens, like promocop's 2005 model, ALL came from the same factory with a pedestal that already IS compatible with the C and E series.

 

[Four Suns]

It posts like this we should make sticky so people can see the type of wreckless information this guy posts.

I say we come up with a new topic... "Best of Wingless"

 

[CSR_Admin]

I’ll stay out of the techno discussion except to say you might want to run this by Jim our administrator at BOE – he knows everything.

Thanks for the intro Jim. The Maptech i3 Scanner will not work on a Raymarine system. This type of post usually has 1 reply with the answer and thats it. Unfortunately wingless is posting very bad advice and creating havoc around here as usual. To pull out the Maptech systems and replace them with Raymarine systems you will need to buy a Raymarine array.

 

[wingless]

Unfortunately wingless is posting very bad advice and creating havoc around here as usual.

Thanks Jim,

Yes, correct information is bad advice for trolls.

The request was what pedestal is compatible w/ an E120 and that is the information I’ve provided, a Raymarine w/ the correct serial number.

 

[CSR_Admin]

The question was "will the Sea Ray Navigator Radar array on the boat work with an E120". Maybe you just posted your reply to the wrong thread? :huh:

 

[wingless]

The question was "will the Sea Ray Navigator Radar array on the boat work with an E120". Maybe you just posted your reply to the wrong thread?

Do you understand the function of quotation marks?

The usage of quotation marks does not include paraphrasing content.

This is proper usage of quotation marks: “I am looking at a boat with two Sea Ray Navigators installed. I asked the dealer to replace them with E120s.”

Any yes, my reply that identifies the only equipment that is compatible with the requested change is on-topic and appropriate.

 

[Four Suns]

Here... let me recap... The OP asks:

.... Apparenly the radar that's installed from the factory with the Navs wouldn't be compatible. They did say that the one Navigator could feed radar over to the E120.

My question, does all that sound correct/true?

And Muffin Mouth responds with the first post as:

The E120 is not compatible w/ the older pedestals, the mid range pedestals are compatible by changing the power cable and the latest pedestals are compatible.



The Raymarine web site lists the serial number range that identifies each type of pedestal.

Did I use the quotes right? I think I did...

So I guess you are suggesting the guy go on EBay and get an older Raymarine pedestal (but be CAREFUL with those serial numbers) because you surely were not referring to the one on his boat which is not Raymarine...

You clown.. you didn't know what you were talking about so you just threw out some crap and got called on it.

Now how about that pressure washer advice on outdrives? You've lost this one. Let's pick up the your pointless advice bickering over on that thread: http://clubsearay.com/forum/showthread.php?t=16204

 

[promocop]

Can someone just tell me...do i or dont i have to replace the damm antenna if i want to go to c or e model screens on my 2005 dancer???

 

[CJ Martin]

Is it time for the ban-stick yet? While every village has an idiot, that doesn't mean Jim has to let chuckleheads like "wingless" crap all over CSR. Bad advice is bad advice, and worse, "wingless" is likely chasing away those that have good advice but don't want to roll in the mud with him/her/it.

-CJ

 

[wingless]

Can someone just tell me...do i or dont i have to replace the damm antenna if i want to go to c or e model screens on my 2005 dancer???

The information provided by wingless continues to be correct and accurate.

The E120 requires a Raymarine pedestal with the correct serial number, as shown in the Raymarine link provided.

Or, listen to Four Suns or osd9 and accept that any Searay Raymarine system will have a pedestal of the correct serial number and that it will work.

So, according to those two, a Searay with an RL80C or RL80CRC plus open array and a Searay Navigator will work, because the pedestal has an acceptable serial number.

 

[CJ Martin]

The information provided by wingless continues to be correct and accurate.

Epic fail as usual:

Thanks for the intro Jim. The Maptech i3 Scanner will not work on a Raymarine system. This type of post usually has 1 reply with the answer and thats it. Unfortunately wingless is posting very bad advice and creating havoc around here as usual. To pull out the Maptech systems and replace them with Raymarine systems you will need to buy a Raymarine array.

You lose, again.

-CJ

 

[osd9]

So wing....you quoted my post where I said.....

"the newer boats that came from the factory with either the C or E screens, like promocop's 2005 model, ALL came from the same factory with a pedestal that already IS compatible with the C and E series."

And then you go on to say.....

"Or, listen to Four Suns or osd9 and accept that any Searay Raymarine system will have a pedestal of the correct serial number and that it will work."

I don't read anywhere that I posted where I said all Searay Raymarine installs that have a scanner will work with all series of screens.

 

[wingless]

osd9, correct, my bad. Third CSR technical error.