Polishing Before and After

Todd remember the #45 is very close to a pure polish...it is great at adding polishing oils and that last bit of gloss, shine, and depth. It will not be very effective at removing swirls created by the rotary or other defects. It does have very minimal amount of diminishing abrasives.... rub some between 2 fingers you will find it is not very course... rather feels oily. #45 is designed to take your surface that is a 9 of 10 and make it a 10 of 10. Getting your to a 9 of 10 may take cleaners/compounds which vary in cut and aggressive-ness.

I used to use #44 color restorer as my everyday cleaner.... but I have found something I like much better (as it is more effective). #49 oxidation remover. I would not get hung up on the name... it is not just for oxidation.

In the Meguiars line here is a list of the cleaners/compounds least aggressive to most.

#44 Color Restorer
#49 Oxidation Remover
#67 One Step Compound
#91 Power Cut Compound

I think that #49 bridges the gap as the last cleaner/compound --> and you can easily step from #49 to #45. I like to use Meguiars 7006/7207 cutting pad (the red one) with the cleaners/compounds. If you are working to clean up rotary marks... I would get a 7006/7207 pad, the porter cable (orbital) and a bottle of #49. If you find #49 is not cleaning up as effectively as you wish... you may want to step up to a bit more aggressive #67.

Good practices that will help is to clean your pad every other 3'x3' section using stiff nylon brush or spur followed by placing a terry cloth over the face of the pad holding it with your hand (removes excess compound/polish, etc). You want to do this as caked up gel coat, oxidized gel coat, and compound or polish will cut down on how effective the pad cuts. One pad per product always.

I will always finish the compound/cleaning step with a final pass of #49 with a polishing pad 8006/8207. I then begin polishing with a 8006/8207 and finish with a final pass of polish #45 with a finishing pad. Then I begin to wax with the finishing pad. Really work the wax into the surface to protect all of the work you just finished.

If you have been compounding and cannot finish the section (finish = compound, polish, wax) I would simply toss a quick coat of wax to protect your work. The best idea is to take the boat offline finish the entire process before it is exposed to the elements (i.e. running in the water, rain, dust dirt, etc). Large plastic sheets can help make a protected cocoon to keep dust off your work.

Todd I am taking a guess based upon your input. If you had pictures of your challenging areas I may be able to help more.... wish I was up there to help.
 
I like 3M's Finesse it II for heavily oxidized areas. I use a Dewalt grinder with a wool pad. It does a great job with minimal effort. And, since it is officially a swirl remover, it leaves a pretty even finish that can be perfected with something like MeGuire's Gold Class.
 
You can come help me... I'll even take you for a boat ride... hell... I'll take you out for a weekend.


Offer accepted. I'll come with my buffer and we go out tuna fishing in the Hudson trench.
 
.........Todd I am taking a guess based upon your input. If you had pictures of your challenging areas I may be able to help more.... wish I was up there to help.

I feel I have most of the boat except the anti-slip bow in pretty good shape. It actually looks pretty good but now I want to begin the polishing process. I'll get some of the #49 and maybe some new pads or clean the pads. I just now there's more shine there.

Thanks
 
Dave S asked how Nehalennia's progress has come after this season. I've really tried to keep this thing clean and I've applied compounds, polishes and waxes here and there. Mo is at a Mother's of Multiples Convention ("Henfest") this weekend and my younger Daughter Mila is off dancing for said Henfest. I spent a few hours today with My 6 year Old Son helping compounding and polishing Nehalennia. I still have another couple coats of Polish to get her where I'd like before waxing it all up, but we're getting there.

For those that did not see her when or before I bought her she was pretty oxidized and needed some love.
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Here are some pictures taken today. We're getting there
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Looks great Todd, I will need to refresh my surfaces this winter too.
 
You can come help me... I'll even take you for a boat ride... hell... I'll take you out for a weekend.

I cannot imagine how long it would take me to finish a 480DB.... 65hrs for my 280..... I would guess in the 200-250 hrs range for the 480DB. Likely 30 days... and a Costco run for Advil.

Next year Jeremy will have to get his gelcoat re-sprayed because he will wear it right off.:smt043

:lol::smt043:lol:
 
I feel I have most of the boat except the anti-slip bow in pretty good shape. It actually looks pretty good but now I want to begin the polishing process. I'll get some of the #49 and maybe some new pads or clean the pads. I just now there's more shine there.

Thanks

Todd have you finished any areas out through wax? Each steps adds it's own bit of gloss, depth, and shine. I would swear that after wax the shine is a bit more brilliant but it may just be my eyes playing tricks on me.
 
Todd have you finished any areas out through wax? Each steps adds it's own bit of gloss, depth, and shine. I would swear that after wax the shine is a bit more brilliant but it may just be my eyes playing tricks on me.

Yeah. I think you're right. I think the wax does add that layer which may give it more of the glossy look.
I have only taken one quarter section through wax.
 
Very Impressive Todd!
 
Todd.....good job....huge improvement.


Jeremy...how have you found is the best way to remove the polish from the non-skid area? I apply with the polish with a foam pad....but since the polish is darker colored than wax....it seems like it is harder to remove from the non-skid.
 
Thanks again guys. I think a couple bottles of the #49 are in my near future. I may take video. I think I also need to get the terry covers Jeremy has also recommended.
 
SO you guys actually wax the non-skid with the pad? The texture from the non-skid doesn't ruin the pad?
 
The difference in the pics from the before and after is incredible. In the before pics, it looks like the gelcoat is a flat white, oxidized badly. In the after pics, it looks like it's a brand new boat from the pics... great work!!! (I should do this to my dad's Stingray... it's badly oxidized, similar to your before pics... he used to keep it outside all the time, and it's like 15-20 yrs old now).

-VtSeaRay
 
The difference in the pics from the before and after is incredible. In the before pics, it looks like the gelcoat is a flat white, oxidized badly. In the after pics, it looks like it's a brand new boat from the pics... great work!!! (I should do this to my dad's Stingray... it's badly oxidized, similar to your before pics... he used to keep it outside all the time, and it's like 15-20 yrs old now).

-VtSeaRay

Yeah the PO of my boat had it in moorage (the Last "Before" Pic). It essentially sat there, oxidized and the O/D Rotted off. When I first looked at it, it was first offputting and I somewhat cringed, but as I looked further in to the boat and past the surface dirt, I saw the potential of this boat. It really was a diamond in the rough, and she's has turned out to be a great purchase. Now that the sparkle is coming back it really is satisfying to see.
 
Todd, that looks fabulous!
Maybe I missed it somewhere in here, but...what do you guys use to remove the compound/wax/polish? By hand, or with some sort of terry-cloth pad or pad covering?

Tom
 

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