Ottawa state of emergency. Surprised?

[Juliery]

Wow….. it’s people like you that we have that asshole running the country…. I just can’t believe there are more of you

I actually have no dog in your fight. You have a purported democracy. Biden won, so suck it up until the next election. You're like a baseball player arguing with the umpire because you struck out.

 

[highslice]

[QUOTE="highslice, post: 1298530, member: 28George Floyd was fresh off of committing a crime and resisted arrest, so he should have known that things would turn. He didn't deserve to die for it, and the argument can be made that with the levels of drugs in his system, he was dead already and just didn't know it. I'm not sure how much warning is appropriate for being held down by three police officers and repeatedly kneed. But I wasn't present at either event and can only go by the videos so I won't argue the point.

Your observations are cogent and valid except for the fact that George Floyd was only suspected of passing a counterfeit $20 bill. No crime was committed other than by Chauvin.[/QUOTE]
In the US everyone who is arrested (unless they confess after being read their Miranda warning, which technically only happens after an arrest) is only suspected of committing a crime because everyone is "presumed innocent until proven guilty in a court of law". But by resisting arrest, George Floyd exposed himself to very real physical consequences. Again, killing him wasn't warranted. Chauvin was just a prick.

 

[Juliery]

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It's avoiding retaliation from the evil-doers. That's what's going on. Not a mystery or complicated.

 

[Juliery]

Your observations are cogent and valid except for the fact that George Floyd was only suspected of passing a counterfeit $20 bill. No crime was committed other than by Chauvin.

In the US everyone who is arrested (unless they confess after being read their Miranda warning, which technically only happens after an arrest) is only suspected of committing a crime because everyone is "presumed innocent until proven guilty in a court of law". But by resisting arrest, George Floyd exposed himself to very real physical consequences. Again, killing him wasn't warranted. Chauvin was just a prick.[/QUOTE]


Fully agree. Would have never made the news except for Chauvin and a video.

 

[Golfman25]

I guess most smart people with good stuff out there will lock it up. I'm not a fan of China considering their violations of basic human rights but the U.S. had Gitmo. Living in a glass house?

WTF does Gitmo have to do with China and Capitalism? It is well known that China steals IP.

 

[highslice]

Highslice - you're high again. Put down the pipe. Now, do you actually read AND comprehend? Asking for my edification.

You're funny, you must smoke a lot since you continue to reference it. Never touched the shit myself. That said, I misread your post. I was on a conference call and my attention was divided. But, you cannot equate Gitmo and the genocide China is committing. Even the most THC riddled brain should be able to distinguish the difference. Now a brain infected with liberalism may not be able to.

 

[highslice]

This thread reminds me of a funny story from when I was the CFO of a large law firm. One of the partners was big in the ACLU. We didn't share many, if any, political views except the 2nd amendment. He didn't trust his clients and carried at all times... Anyway, I listened to Rush Limbaugh every day. One day I came back to my office from a meeting and found a note on my desk. It was from this partner and it said: "Tim, your radio is broken, it's playing Rush Limbaugh". I laughed out loud. That was back when you could have a civil conversation about politics, disagree and remain friends.

 

[Juliery]

OMG...... Robbing a store a few minutes earlier??????.... what is wrong with you ?

From the Court record:

"The court has been shown footage from the body cameras belonging to officers Thomas Lane, J Alexander Kueng and Tou Thao. Mr Chauvin's camera fell to the ground as the arrest unfolded and so did not give a visual recording of the event. In Mr Lane's footage, Mr Floyd is seen being confronted by police. He begs them: "Please don't shoot me... I just lost my mom."

Mr Floyd is handcuffed and continues to plead with Officers Lane and Kueng, saying he is not resisting them and "will do anything you tell me to". A scuffle occurs when police try to get Mr Floyd into a vehicle, and he starts crying and resisting while saying he is claustrophobic and has anxiety.

Mr Chauvin and his partner Mr Thao arrive on the scene as the arrest goes on. As the police officers drag him out of the car and restrain him on the ground, Mr Floyd can be heard calling for his mother and telling his family members he loves them. Bystanders begin to shout at officers to check Mr Floyd's pulse and stop restraining him.

Shop employee Christopher Martin, 19, told the court he briefly interacted with Mr Floyd as a customer inside Cup Foods shortly before his arrest. He said Mr Floyd "appeared to be high" because he struggled to respond to a simple question, but he was lucid enough to able to hold a conversation. He described Mr Floyd as "friendly and approachable".

In the shop's surveillance video, Mr Floyd can be seen laughing, talking to people, and walking around. Mr Martin told the jury he had sold Mr Floyd a packet of cigarettes, and received a suspected counterfeit note as payment. Mr Martin described assuming the bill was fake by its colour and texture, but added that Mr Floyd "didn't seem to know it was a fake note".

He said he had considered letting the shop deduct it from his wages instead of confronting Mr Floyd, but then decided to tell his manager. Another employee went on to call the police. Mr Martin, who witnessed the arrest, said he felt "disbelief and guilt" because "if I'd have just not taken the bill, this could have been avoided".

Charles McMillian, 61, was another witness who took the stand on Wednesday. Based on CCTV footage, Mr McMillian appears to have been the first bystander on the scene of Mr Floyd's arrest. He told the court he engaged in conversation with Mr Floyd, urging him to get into the police car. Mr McMillian said he remembers feeling "helpless" seeing the incident unfold. He can be heard on video telling Mr Chauvin: "Your knee on his neck, that's wrong man." An expert witness testified that the "blood choke " used by Chauvin is a very dangerous tactic, well-know in the martial arts.

As the court was shown footage of the arrest, Mr. McMillian began to sob, and the judge called for a brief recess. The court was also shown separate footage of Mr McMillian from Mr Chauvin's own body camera. In the footage, Mr McMillian confronted Mr Chauvin about the arrest after Mr Floyd was taken away in the ambulance. Floyd was dead.

What is wrong with you Blueone? Judge and jury? No awareness of the testimony and the facts and certainly no compassion?

 

[Blueone]

From the Court record:

"The court has been shown footage from the body cameras belonging to officers Thomas Lane, J Alexander Kueng and Tou Thao. Mr Chauvin's camera fell to the ground as the arrest unfolded and so did not give a visual recording of the event. In Mr Lane's footage, Mr Floyd is seen being confronted by police. He begs them: "Please don't shoot me... I just lost my mom."

Mr Floyd is handcuffed and continues to plead with Officers Lane and Kueng, saying he is not resisting them and "will do anything you tell me to". A scuffle occurs when police try to get Mr Floyd into a vehicle, and he starts crying and resisting while saying he is claustrophobic and has anxiety.

Mr Chauvin and his partner Mr Thao arrive on the scene as the arrest goes on. As the police officers drag him out of the car and restrain him on the ground, Mr Floyd can be heard calling for his mother and telling his family members he loves them. Bystanders begin to shout at officers to check Mr Floyd's pulse and stop restraining him.

Shop employee Christopher Martin, 19, told the court he briefly interacted with Mr Floyd as a customer inside Cup Foods shortly before his arrest. He said Mr Floyd "appeared to be high" because he struggled to respond to a simple question, but he was lucid enough to able to hold a conversation. He described Mr Floyd as "friendly and approachable".

In the shop's surveillance video, Mr Floyd can be seen laughing, talking to people, and walking around. Mr Martin told the jury he had sold Mr Floyd a packet of cigarettes, and received a suspected counterfeit note as payment. Mr Martin described assuming the bill was fake by its colour and texture, but added that Mr Floyd "didn't seem to know it was a fake note".

He said he had considered letting the shop deduct it from his wages instead of confronting Mr Floyd, but then decided to tell his manager. Another employee went on to call the police. Mr Martin, who witnessed the arrest, said he felt "disbelief and guilt" because "if I'd have just not taken the bill, this could have been avoided".

Charles McMillian, 61, was another witness who took the stand on Wednesday. Based on CCTV footage, Mr McMillian appears to have been the first bystander on the scene of Mr Floyd's arrest. He told the court he engaged in conversation with Mr Floyd, urging him to get into the police car. Mr McMillian said he remembers feeling "helpless" seeing the incident unfold. He can be heard on video telling Mr Chauvin: "Your knee on his neck, that's wrong man." An expert witness testified that the "blood choke " used by Chauvin is a very dangerous tactic, well-know in the martial arts.

As the court was shown footage of the arrest, Mr. McMillian began to sob, and the judge called for a brief recess. The court was also shown separate footage of Mr McMillian from Mr Chauvin's own body camera. In the footage, Mr McMillian confronted Mr Chauvin about the arrest after Mr Floyd was taken away in the ambulance. Floyd was dead.

What is wrong with you Blueone? Judge and jury? No awareness of the testimony and the facts and certainly no compassion?

Coles notes…. wtf ? I am not reading all that

 

[Juliery]

You're funny, you must smoke a lot since you continue to reference it. Never touched the shit myself. That said, I misread your post. I was on a conference call and my attention was divided. But, you cannot equate Gitmo and the genocide China is committing. Even the most THC riddled brain should be able to distinguish the difference. Now a brain infected with liberalism may not be able to.

Haha! You are a funny guy, highslice!
Yes, I did enjoy a doobie or two in the late sixties, but I'm a non-smoker so that put me off. (Unlike Bill Clinton, I did inhale.) I do enjoy the single malts, though. My favorite is Dalwhine But now there are gummy bears ... I'm tempted.

 

[Juliery]

Coles notes…. wtf ? I am not reading all that

No, as stated, from the Court record. An intelligent man would read it but you be you.

The whole thing is simply sad...

 

[highslice]

Haha! You are a funny guy, highslice!
Yes, I did enjoy a doobie or two in the late sixties, but I'm a non-smoker so that put me off. (Unlike Bill Clinton, I did inhale.) I do enjoy the single malts, though. My favorite is Dalwhine But now there are gummy bears ... I'm tempted.

No personal experience with the gummies, but I have a friend whose family has a big house in Breckenridge, CO. He tells me the gummies are a crap shoot, never know and can't control how potent they are.

I never developed a taste for the single malts. Although I did have an appreciation of the craft that went into making them so smooth. I am more of a bourbon and gin man myself.

 

[Woody]

From the Court record:

"The court has been shown footage from the body cameras belonging to officers Thomas Lane, J Alexander Kueng and Tou Thao. Mr Chauvin's camera fell to the ground as the arrest unfolded and so did not give a visual recording of the event. In Mr Lane's footage, Mr Floyd is seen being confronted by police. He begs them: "Please don't shoot me... I just lost my mom."

Mr Floyd is handcuffed and continues to plead with Officers Lane and Kueng, saying he is not resisting them and "will do anything you tell me to". A scuffle occurs when police try to get Mr Floyd into a vehicle, and he starts crying and resisting while saying he is claustrophobic and has anxiety.

Mr Chauvin and his partner Mr Thao arrive on the scene as the arrest goes on. As the police officers drag him out of the car and restrain him on the ground, Mr Floyd can be heard calling for his mother and telling his family members he loves them. Bystanders begin to shout at officers to check Mr Floyd's pulse and stop restraining him.

Shop employee Christopher Martin, 19, told the court he briefly interacted with Mr Floyd as a customer inside Cup Foods shortly before his arrest. He said Mr Floyd "appeared to be high" because he struggled to respond to a simple question, but he was lucid enough to able to hold a conversation. He described Mr Floyd as "friendly and approachable".

In the shop's surveillance video, Mr Floyd can be seen laughing, talking to people, and walking around. Mr Martin told the jury he had sold Mr Floyd a packet of cigarettes, and received a suspected counterfeit note as payment. Mr Martin described assuming the bill was fake by its colour and texture, but added that Mr Floyd "didn't seem to know it was a fake note".

He said he had considered letting the shop deduct it from his wages instead of confronting Mr Floyd, but then decided to tell his manager. Another employee went on to call the police. Mr Martin, who witnessed the arrest, said he felt "disbelief and guilt" because "if I'd have just not taken the bill, this could have been avoided".

Charles McMillian, 61, was another witness who took the stand on Wednesday. Based on CCTV footage, Mr McMillian appears to have been the first bystander on the scene of Mr Floyd's arrest. He told the court he engaged in conversation with Mr Floyd, urging him to get into the police car. Mr McMillian said he remembers feeling "helpless" seeing the incident unfold. He can be heard on video telling Mr Chauvin: "Your knee on his neck, that's wrong man." An expert witness testified that the "blood choke " used by Chauvin is a very dangerous tactic, well-know in the martial arts.

As the court was shown footage of the arrest, Mr. McMillian began to sob, and the judge called for a brief recess. The court was also shown separate footage of Mr McMillian from Mr Chauvin's own body camera. In the footage, Mr McMillian confronted Mr Chauvin about the arrest after Mr Floyd was taken away in the ambulance. Floyd was dead.

What is wrong with you Blueone? Judge and jury? No awareness of the testimony and the facts and certainly no compassion?

First thing I'll say is that Chauvin was an asshole bad cop, deserves whatever he got. Floyd was a dumbass, although he shouldn't have died because of it.

Twice clerks went out to Floyds car, they asked him to come back to the store and he wouldn't, they asked him to give the cigs back but the dumbass wouldn't....so the dumbass Floyd then has a run in with asshole Chauvin...play stupid games, win stupid prizes, and we got us some real winners here.

So billions of $$$ in damage and headaches suffered around the world....all because of George, all the dumbass had to do was give the cigs back or pay with some real money.

 

[Blueone]

An intelligent man would read it but you be you.
...

Are you kidding me…I couldn’t read Cole’s notes

 

[El Capitan]

First thing I'll say is that Chauvin was an asshole bad cop, deserves whatever he got. Floyd was a dumbass, although he shouldn't have died because of it.

Twice clerks went out to Floyds car, they asked him to come back to the store and he wouldn't, they asked him to give the cigs back but the dumbass wouldn't....so the dumbass Floyd then has a run in with asshole Chauvin...play stupid games, win stupid prizes, and we got us some real winners here.

So billions of $$$ in damage and headaches suffered around the world....all because of George, all the dumbass had to do was give the cigs back or pay with some real money.

There is no direct evidence of what Floyd’s cause of death was.
He had massive overdoses in his bloodstream plus history of major heart disease.

Nbody can prove he wasn’t dying already nor to what extent a knee on neck played in exacerbating his condition.

Most medical professionals I know whisper that absent his condition he would be alive today.

Knee or no knee.

 

[MonacoMike]

 

[MonacoMike]

 

[Juliery]

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That's all we see now, in Canada. The residential school turmoil over "unmarked" graves is thankfully gone for a while. The drama and characters are predictable so it could become a made-for-T.V. series. You have a detestable villain (Trudeau), you have the affable truckers, their cute kids and their cute dogs. You have the trucker groupies and other hangers-on. There are flags. Lots of flags. You have the Keystone cops. What crazy antics will they dream up next? We have the impotent Mayor and the irritated residents and business people. There are the other trucks stuck at borders. They can do nothing, either. Big trucks being towed away and impounded. And don't forget the Go Fund Me scandal, hot tub and barbecues, arrests and frozen bank accounts. Lots there for a series.

 

[OllieC]