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Meet the Liberal Elite!

This is a riot because it is so true....

[YOUTUBE]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fZrqdZFFb5c[/YOUTUBE]
 
If you haven't seen this movie... you should...

[YOUTUBE]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PSROlfR7WTo&feature=related[/YOUTUBE]
 
Sad but true, I have relatives like her and they were unbearable the 8 years Bush was President.:lol:
 
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lUPMjC9mq5Y[/youtube]

yep, you guys are right. Conservatives are the real brain trust of this country. :smt043
 
Pack66Dad said:
[youtube]lUPMjC9mq5Y[/youtube]

yep, you guys are right. Conservatives are the real brain trust of this country. :smt043
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Hey Pack this is the "Official Liberal Thread" :smt021
 
Jack F said:
Hey Pack this is the "Official Liberal Thread" :smt021
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Hmmm..... I just assumed I was the official CSR liberal so it was for me.

Besides, if I post anything around here the frothing at the mouth Neanderthals go nuts and blow up the thread. So you could say I'm "good for business" :smt043
 
Pack66Dad said:
Hmmm..... I just assumed I was the official CSR liberal so it was for me.

Besides, if I post anything around here the frothing at the mouth Neanderthals go nuts and blow up the thread. So you could say I'm "good for business" :smt043
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And so it begins again in yet another thread.... <sigh> :smt009
 
sfergson727 said:
Pack, if you had any brains at all, you would know that a good portion of the Tea Party is formed by democrats as well. Apparently you are not bright enough to see past a few nutjobs for the true spirit of the Tea Party movement.
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If I had a brain....?
Hmmmm...... sferg, I really like you but that's pretty harsh for a guy that thinks 8% is a "good portion" don't you think?
I'm sorry to disagree but I could post these videos until the band width gave up, its pretty damn obvious to conscious people that teabaggers are mostly kooks.

The true spirit of the tea bag movement IS nutjobs (thats sick, funny and sad all at the same time).
 
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sfergson727 said:
1. Thou Shalt Have Low Tax rates

2. Thou Shalt Have A Strong dollar.

3. Thou Shalt Have Free trade.

4. Thou Shalt Not Over-Regulate the People

5. Thou Shalt Have Only A Limited Government.

6. Thou Shalt Limit Government Spending.

7. Thou Shalt Have Market Pricing.

8. Thou Shalt Have Privatization.

9. Thou Shalt Have A Strong Defense.

10. Thou Shalt Reform Welfare
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I agree with 1, 4, 5, 6, 10. No further comment.

2, and 3 have alot to do with why manufacturing (in my view) is moving to other countries.

8 is something I hear alot of lipservice about, but I have not seen any action on by the conservative movement. Same applies to "6".

9 is interesting. While I agree in principle. I see many using "strong defense" as an excuse to violate 5 and 6.

7, market pricing, is also fascinating. In general, it's nice; but how does market pricing work when you can form a monopoly? How does market pricing work for medicine where the alternative is "DEATH"? We could have a LOOOOOONG debate on this.

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But more to the point: Where does this come from? The tea party candidates I have heard about do not reference most of these principles. Certainly, the RNC doesn't espouse all these principles.

Most of the Tea party platforms I have heard about are a combination of anti-Obama, anti-incumbent sentiment with a large talk of "stop spending (except on local pork, SS, medicare, defense and other programs to be named later)."

Just curious. . .
 
sfergson727 said:
3. Thou Shalt Have Free trade.
Free Trade IS FAIR TRADE, where both sides agree to open, fair, and competitive trade allowing the markets to determine the value of goods, promoting connections between nations and cultures, and spreading the principles of freedom in the economic realm even where political freedom is lacking. For Trade to be Free, it must of course be fair, but for wealth to increase for ALL trade must be free!
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Our trade policy rests firmly on the foundation of free and open markets. I recognize %u2026 the inescapable conclusion that all of history has taught: The freer the flow of world trade, the stronger the tides of human progress and peace among nations. Remarks at a White House Meeting With Business and Trade Leaders Se…
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It just infuriates me when "constitutionalists" ignore the men who actually wrote the damn thing and quote Ronald "alzhimer" Regan like he is the second coming of christ. Why don't we do what they did when this country started?
The Tariff Act of 1789 imposed the first national source of revenue for the newly formed United States. The new Constitution allowed only the federal government to levy tariffs, so the old system of state rates disappeared. The new law taxed all imports at rates from 5 to 15 percent. These rates were primarily designed to generate revenue to pay the national debt and annual expenses of the federal government. In his Report on Manufactures Treasury Secretary Alexander Hamilton proposed a far-reaching plan to use protective tariffs as a lever for rapid industrialization. His proposals were not adopted.
The high protectionism Hamilton called for was not adopted until after the War of 1812 when nationalists like Henry Clay and John C. Calhoun wanted more industry so the nation would have a balanced economy. In wartime, they declared, having a home industry was a necessity (Did you catch that part in RED? Maybe you free traders should remember this if you want us to continue being a "sovereign nation").

I don't think your a kook. Misguided, maybe a little paranoid but decent, hard working and sincere. I like you:grin:
 
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Pack66Dad said:
In wartime, they declared, having a home industry was a necessity (Did you catch that part in RED? Maybe you free traders should remember this if you want us to continue being a "sovereign nation").
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That part in red I believe is crucial to our survival! I'm all for taxing the crap out of every container coming to port...I'm probably not as intelligent as most of you, but it's not rocket science to figure out that no production=no money:huh: Being new in business I can tell you from my experiences daily, we are in a lot of trouble! We have some of the most lazy people who want everything "handed" to them that I have ever seen:smt013 I came from the bottom...and really not very far from there (yet)..and nobody has given me anything! Just hard work plus little time at home and you can achieve your dreams...just to have gubment want to take it away to give to deadbeats and foreign countries. I'm sick of it:smt013 We can produce just about everything we import, so why don't we do it while we are going broke:huh::huh:

I asked on here on another thread what our major exports are and the answers were jet engines and Caterpillars...Hmmm that's very interesting to me:smt021
 
Pack66Dad said:
It just infuriates me when "constitutionalists" ignore the men who actually wrote the damn thing and quote Ronald "Alzheimer" Regan like he is the second coming of christ. Why don't we do what they did when this country started?
The Tariff Act of 1789 imposed the first national source of revenue for the newly formed United States. The new Constitution allowed only the federal government to levy tariffs, so the old system of state rates disappeared. The new law taxed all imports at rates from 5 to 15 percent. These rates were primarily designed to generate revenue to pay the national debt and annual expenses of the federal government. In his Report on Manufactures Treasury Secretary Alexander Hamilton proposed a far-reaching plan to use protective tariffs as a lever for rapid industrialization. His proposals were not adopted.
The high protectionism Hamilton called for was not adopted until after the War of 1812 when nationalists like Henry Clay and John C. Calhoun wanted more industry so the nation would have a balanced economy. In wartime, they declared, having a home industry was a necessity (Did you catch that part in RED? Maybe you free traders should remember this if you want us to continue being a "sovereign nation").

I don't think your a kook. Misguided, maybe a little paranoid but decent, hard working and sincere. I like you:grin:
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Aren't you the guy that whined about name calling ? What is
"Ronald Alzheimer Regan"??? Not name calling ?

Geeze--be consistent will ya. OK for you but not anyone else......
 
floriduramax1 said:
<snip> but it's not rocket science to figure out that no production=no money:huh: Being new in business I can tell you from my experiences daily, we are in a lot of trouble! We have some of the most lazy people who want everything "handed" to them that I have ever seen <snip>
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I agree fully.

I seen how lazy many people are. And how they don't expect to work for things . . . I have seen people think I am crazy for the hours I work and travel AND simultaneously be envious of my income and toys. They completely fail to recognize the correllation.

I also believe that no production = no opportunity = no money. If manufacturing moves offshore. . engineering will follow. . and then management.

Both issues are problems. (seperate, but still problems)


Both are problems.
 
autovette said:
Aren't you the guy that whined about name calling ? What is
"Ronald Alzheimer Regan"??? Not name calling ?

Geeze--be consistent will ya. OK for you but not anyone else......
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Sorry for the inconsistency, I was approaching this site as if it was an actual community of boaters who were decent folks and would not tolerate that type of behavior. :smt043:smt043Joke was on me! Now that I realize CSR is nothing but the usual internet cesspool I took my gloves off.

Oh, and actually Ronald Alzheimer Regan is the nicest thing I could muster. He is the biggest POS we ever had as a president, worse than baby bush even.
 
Originally Posted by floriduramax1
<snip> but it's not rocket science to figure out that no production=no money:huh: Being new in business I can tell you from my experiences daily, we are in a lot of trouble! We have some of the most lazy people who want everything "handed" to them that I have ever seen <snip>
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comsnark said:
I agree fully.

I seen how lazy many people are. And how they don't expect to work for things . . . I have seen people think I am crazy for the hours I work and travel AND simultaneously be envious of my income and toys. They completely fail to recognize the correllation.

I also believe that no production = no opportunity = no money. If manufacturing moves offshore. . engineering will follow. . and then management.

Both issues are problems. (seperate, but still problems)


Both are problems.
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Your both full of crap, American workers are NOT LAZY :smt013
You can't invent your own facts to make an argument fit your Beck/Limbaugh view of the world.....
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2007/09/03/business/main3228735.shtml
 
Pack I will have to disagree with you. I believe Ron Reagan was on of the best presidents we had. I also think JFK was a good president. Everyone one else in between then and now has been crap. He was the last of the true Dems before the pot smoking hippie crowd took over.

As far as the Tea Party is concerned you really need to look at your facts and look at who some of these folks are. They are mostly independents who have had enough. It all started when Obama, Reid and Queen Pelosi thumbed their noses at those demonstrating in the capital a few years back about taxes.

The great power in this country is the people themselves. The elite like Obama, Reid and Pelosi are telling us THEY have our best intensions in mind which is BS!

That is why they are scared to death of people like Palin. Do I think she will make a good president, no I do not. A good VP yes. I also believe she has MORE power at the grass roots level than she will ever have in office and that just scares the crap out of folks that believe the government show take care of the people through handouts, instead of allowing good people to make America great.

Government is not the solution to our problem; government is the problem.

History teaches that wars begin when governments believe the price of aggression is cheap.

God Bless Ronald Reagan and those who fight and die just so I have the privilege to write these words...............I have said more above on politics than I have said in many years!
 
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