More undercover global warming pictures.

Now if we can just get Gary to stop operating those inefficient cummins and switch to CAT engines, we might be able to save the world.
 
He needs to buy the L650 Fly then!
 
Sea Ray should turn from the dark side and offer Volvo Penta's like they do overseas. Leader in green technology and a proven performer in all types to industry.

OOPS I let my bias slip out. sorry.
 
Turtlesboat said:
So then, how do you justify owning two boats? one probably needing a nice big truck to tow around. If man is creating global warming, you are probably in the top 1% of warmers.
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Most smokers know that smoking is bad for you. I'm absolutely putting more than my share of carbon into the atmosphere, between 2 boats (one of which sucks gas faster than a $20 hooker sucks ... well, you know), 5 cars, 2 of which get well under 20 MPG, and my own server rack at home along with other toys that double my electric bill compared to my neighbors. I have no issue with admitting my own faults.

I said I believe the climate scientists, but I never said I *LIKED* what they are saying. You guys act as if everyone saying "man made global warming exists" is HAPPY about it. I'm certainly not. But I've never told everyone they have to scrap their boats and gas guzzler cars. I'm not being hypocritical in that I'm not claiming some moral high-ground and telling everyone else they have to fix it without changing anything myself. I know I'm part of the problem. But I'm not pretending that the problem doesn't exist.

It's a tough situation, and I don't have easy answers for it. My preference is to find a solution that doesn't require me to make major changes to my lifestyle :grin:, but I think that in the long term that's not going to work. So I'm trying to shift my consumption a where I can, like replacing my daily driver with a hybrid, selling a couple of the cars, and cutting back on some of the power-hungry toys. Incremental change is the best I can do right now.

I would, however, like to see some of the subsidies that are going to carbon based energy generation (oil exploration subsidies and the no-competition bidding process used for coal rights being especially offensive in my eyes) shifted to more renewable development. I would REALLY love to see the nuclear industry getting serious about thorium reactors, but there's still a good bit of work to be done there.

I'm not trying to change the world here. Better people than me will be required to make that happen. Or not. Time will tell.
 
I would, however, like to see some of the subsidies that are going to carbon based energy generation (oil exploration subsidies and the no-competition bidding process used for coal rights being especially offensive in my eyes) shifted to more renewable development. I would REALLY love to see the nuclear industry getting serious about thorium reactors, but there's still a good bit of work to be done there.
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How about putting the billions being wasted on the effects of alleged and so called GW/CC toward alternatives instead.
 
src said:
Most smokers know that smoking is bad for you. I'm absolutely putting more than my share of carbon into the atmosphere, between 2 boats (one of which sucks gas faster than a $20 hooker sucks ... well, you know), 5 cars, 2 of which get well under 20 MPG, and my own server rack at home along with other toys that double my electric bill compared to my neighbors. I have no issue with admitting my own faults.

I said I believe the climate scientists, but I never said I *LIKED* what they are saying. You guys act as if everyone saying "man made global warming exists" is HAPPY about it. I'm certainly not. But I've never told everyone they have to scrap their boats and gas guzzler cars. I'm not being hypocritical in that I'm not claiming some moral high-ground and telling everyone else they have to fix it without changing anything myself. I know I'm part of the problem. But I'm not pretending that the problem doesn't exist.

It's a tough situation, and I don't have easy answers for it. My preference is to find a solution that doesn't require me to make major changes to my lifestyle :grin:, but I think that in the long term that's not going to work. So I'm trying to shift my consumption a where I can, like replacing my daily driver with a hybrid, selling a couple of the cars, and cutting back on some of the power-hungry toys. Incremental change is the best I can do right now.

I would, however, like to see some of the subsidies that are going to carbon based energy generation (oil exploration subsidies and the no-competition bidding process used for coal rights being especially offensive in my eyes) shifted to more renewable development. I would REALLY love to see the nuclear industry getting serious about thorium reactors, but there's still a good bit of work to be done there.

I'm not trying to change the world here. Better people than me will be required to make that happen. Or not. Time will tell.
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So what you're trying to say is buying another car is good for the climate? how much energy, resources, chemicals, paints, waste, not to mention fuel and electricity does it take to make a NEW hybrid? How much money does it cost you to buy that new hybrid? $40k, $50k? Whatever fuel "savings" you get from driving it, you threw out buying it. You created more climate warming trying to save the climate. Then after a couple of years you have to buy new environmentally safe batteries at what, $7k a pop? So you're polluting the world, having to go and create more wealth to raise the money which causes more pollution, to buy that hybrid to save how much fuel a year? All that buying, polluting, warming, not to mention driving a crappy car for something they can't even prove. It's so far from proof, they can't even get a fake model close. Man, I would love you as a client or customer. Next to prostitutes, this is the oldest profession in the world, snake oil.
 
I think many of us need to get to know Jack Schitt, see previous post if you don't know Jack Schitt. Yes, I am showing my ignorance and bias, but you decide who is related to the Fulla or Dipp side of the family:)
 
I read a study that said a H1 Hummer throughout it's life was "greener" than a Toyota Prius throughout it's life due to the global impact the nickle mining to make the hybrid battery has. just food for thought...

I am an official bear poker BTW.
 
I have a co-worker that tries to cut his carbon footprint, and believes in GW. He drives a Prius. So, one day he starts giving me crap about driving a truck back and forth to work, that gets 10 mpg. I started thinking about this. I live 10 miles from work. He lives 40 miles from work. You thinking what I was thinking.
Basically, I use 2 gallons of gas to go to work, and get back home. He uses 2 gallons of gas to drive to work, and then drive back home.
I told him I would buy a vehicle that got better gas mileage, when he moved closer to work. He just stood there looking at me. This is the problem with most GW supporters. They don't look at themselves before passing judgemental bull**** on other people.
 
I asked a developer of green technology in the construction equipment business if the cost of ownership in their new machine out weighed the benefit of lower fuel consumption. The machine had 1/3 more parts to support the hybrid electric/diesel machine than a standard machine.

I got SILENCE!!

Then I asked what the carbon footprint was to bring this new technology to market? Someone needs to make the electrical components and related wiring from raw materials. Again SILENCE.
 
but wait... all of their global warming predictions in the past came true.

“Within a few years children just aren't going to know what snow is. Snowfall will be a very rare and exciting event." ~ Dr. David Viner, senior research scientist at the climatic research unit (CRU) of the University of East Anglia, March 20, 2000.

"Scientists predict an active 2013 hurricane season due to accelerated Global Warming and the warmer Atlantic Ocean. They are calling for 18 named storms, nine of which will become hurricanes and four of which will develop into major hurricanes. That's about 50 percent more activity than during a normal season." ~ various MSM outlets

"By 1995, the greenhouse effect would be desolating the heartlands of North America and Eurasia with horrific drought, causing crop failures and food riots. By 1996 the Platte River of Nebraska would be dry, while a continent-wide black blizzard of prairie topsoil will stop traffic on interstates, strip paint from houses and shut down computers." ~ Michael Oppenheimer

Arctic specialist Bernt Balchen says “A general warming trend over the North Pole is melting the polar ice cap and may produce an ice-free Arctic Ocean by the year 2000.”

“Using computer models, researchers concluded that global warming would raise average annual temperatures nationwide two degrees by 2010." ~ Associated Press

"In ten years all important animal life in the sea will be extinct. Large areas of coastline will have to be evacuated because of the stench of dead fish." ~ Ehrlich, speech during Earth Day 1970

[In New York City by 2008] The West Side Highway [which runs along the Hudson River] will be under water. And there will be tape across the windows across the street because of high winds. And the same birds won’t be there. The trees in the median strip will change. There will be more police cars. Why? Well, you know what happens to crime when the heat goes up... Under the greenhouse effect, extreme weather increases. Depending on where you are in terms of the hydrological cycle, you get more of whatever you’re prone to get. New York can get droughts, the droughts can get more severe and you’ll have signs in restaurants saying “Water by request only.” ~ James Hansen testimony before Congress in June 1988

"By 2000, British and American oil will have diminished to a trickle......Ozone depletion and global warming threaten food shortages, but the wealthy North will enjoy a temporary reprieve by buying up the produce of the South. Unrest among the hungry and the ensuing political instability, will be contained by the North's greater military might. A bleak future indeed, but an inevitable one unless we change the way we live.....At present rates of exploitation there may be no rainforest left in 10 years. If measures are not taken immediately, the greenhouse effect may be unstoppable in 12 to 15 years." ~ 5000 Days to Save the Planet - Edward Goldsmith 1991.

June 11, 1986 Dr. James Hansen of the Goddard Space Institute (NASA) in testimony to Congress (according to the Milwaukee Journal) “Hansen predicted global temperatures should be nearly 2 degrees higher in 20 years, ‘which is about the warmest the earth has been in the last 100,000 years.’”

"A global warming trend could bring heat waves, dust-dry farmland and disease, the experts said... Under this scenario, the resort town of Ocean City, Md., will lose 39 feet of shoreline by 2000 and a total of 85 feet within the next 25 years." ~ San Jose Mercury News - June 11, 1986.
 
Nice find, we should all be dead by now.
 
Turtlesboat said:
Now they are blaming not being able to find the missing jet due to climate change. unbelievable.

http://www.nationalreview.com/corne...-blame-missing-malaysia-flight-andrew-johnson
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“This is one of those grand challenges, one of those big things that is really hard. We have to grapple with Mother Nature and try to say, ‘Look lady, give us your secrets! We won’t get rough with you, please don’t get rough with us!’” she said. Sounds like some hippie from the 60's talkin.:smt043
 
Not to hijack thread but, I happen to be current High bidder on Craig's list for the plane. Fresh paint, four drink Carts, extra pillows, cash only, & an extended warrantee thrown in.
 
Turtlesboat said:
Now they are blaming not being able to find the missing jet due to climate change. unbelievable.

http://www.nationalreview.com/corne...-blame-missing-malaysia-flight-andrew-johnson
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sfergson727 said:
If that doesn't convince everyone that the global warming folks are completely insane, nothing will, I suppose.....
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You guys are talking about the same loonies that think GW will cause rape. Can't wait to see that defense in court...

http://www.motherjones.com/environment/2014/02/climate-change-murder-rape

MM
 
Turtlesboat said:
Holy crap... RAPE TOO???
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That must happen just before GW causes erectile dysfunction.

"A recent study by the National Institute of Scientific Research in Brussels has finally brought to an end the debate that has raged for many years about whether global warming is the leading cause of erectile dysfunction.

“The evidence is clear! All statistics confirm it, but most scientists would not believe it. However, the data is irrefutable ! ” said Dr. Alfvin Schwartz , Chief of the study. ” Global warming makes it go numb! There is no other way to say it ” he explains with conviction."

And check out these other "confirmed" issues GW causes...

"Other recent studies have confirmed that global warming could cause baldness, incontinence and the growth of hair between the toes, but the link with erectile dysfunction had not yet been certified by a credible institution until today."

http://worldnewsdailyreport.com/global-warming-to-be-blamed-for-erectile-dysfunction/

You can't make this stuff up. I recently read an article discussing how hard it is to come up with stories for satire publications like the Onion since real life people today are so bat sh:t crazy.

MM
 
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