Ike: Deja Vu all over again.........

Again: Good luck to all of you down there.

Remember. . .boats and homes can be replaced. Family cannot.
 
I can't imagine the water surge that accompanies these things...after witnessing the floods and tornado damage in Iowa, I'll take my chances here. Good luck to all that get the hell out of the way and prayers to anyone who wants them...
 
I went to my boat to get my kitesurfing gear and was shocked to see the water way up in the parking lot. The wooden docks on the other side were all under water. It was an up-hill climb from our walkway to the floating docks. One of my lines was within a foot of the top of the piling!

Pics to follow tomorrow. The water was all around the base of the marina building.

You are getting flooded out in Florida?

I think if you are in Texas or Western LA areas, not only do you want your boat out of the water, you want it on a hill, tied off with bow, stern and spring lines to a bunch of TALL trees.

From the latest forecasts, it appears the storm might not achieve category 3. But the Hurricane force winds extend over 100 miles from the center. That is not pretty.

Oh. . .and the local flood warning dropped the expression "will face certain death" in favor of "may face certain death". I doubt that change implies any lessening of the danger.

This could easily be a repeat of the 1900 storm in Galveston

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Galveston_Hurricane_of_1900

Hopefully, the 17 foot seawall will be high enough. And the evacuation does what it is supposed to do.

Are the Federal types mobilizing for this storm like they did for Gustav? One hopes so.
 
More idiots on the TV this morning being interviewed that are "sticking it out" on the water.

Then they'll bitch when the government doesn't rescue them. They should deliver dog tags and body bags to them so they can clean up after themselves.
 
This is one Holy Shit! Forecast:

LIFE THREATENING INUNDATION LIKELY!

ALL NEIGHBORHOODS...AND POSSIBLY ENTIRE COASTAL COMMUNITIES...
WILL BE INUNDATED DURING THE PERIOD OF PEAK STORM TIDE. PERSONS
NOT HEEDING EVACUATION ORDERS IN SINGLE FAMILY ONE OR TWO STORY
HOMES MAY FACE CERTAIN DEATH. MANY RESIDENCES OF AVERAGE
CONSTRUCTION DIRECTLY ON THE COAST WILL BE DESTROYED. WIDESPREAD
AND DEVASTATING PERSONAL PROPERTY DAMAGE IS LIKELY ELSEWHERE.
VEHICLES LEFT BEHIND WILL LIKELY BE SWEPT AWAY. NUMEROUS ROADS
WILL BE SWAMPED...SOME MAY BE WASHED AWAY BY THE WATER. ENTIRE
FLOOD PRONE COASTAL COMMUNITIES WILL BE CUTOFF. WATER LEVELS MAY
EXCEED 9 FEET FOR MORE THAN A MILE INLAND. COASTAL RESIDENTS IN
MULTI-STORY FACILITIES RISK BEING CUTOFF. CONDITIONS WILL BE
WORSENED BY BATTERING WAVES CLOSER TO THE COAST. SUCH WAVES WILL
EXACERBATE PROPERTY DAMAGE...WITH MASSIVE DESTRUCTION OF
HOMES...INCLUDING THOSE OF BLOCK CONSTRUCTION. DAMAGE FROM BEACH
EROSION COULD TAKE YEARS TO REPAIR.
 
You are getting flooded out in Florida?

Oh yeah.

BAY AREA (Bay News 9) -- Moisture pushed into the Bay area from Hurricane Ike has led to flooding for a second straight day.
The morning high tide that peaked just before noon from Sarasota County to Cedar Key brought storm tides one to two feet above normal.
Areas of St. Petersburg, Tarpon Springs, Gulfport, St. Pete Beach and Citrus County all saw water levels rise Thursday morning. The Hillsborough River in Tampa also experienced higher levels.
Those same areas saw water levels rise over sea walls and lakes on Thursday. The water flooded neighborhoods and seeped into some homes and businesses.
About six to eight inches of water flooded the Shore Acres area of St. Petersburg, prompting some residents to take to kayaking to maneuver through their neighborhood. One homeowner reported water flooding his garage.
Meanwhile, in Citrus County, water levels were shin deep in some coastal areas of Crystal River.
Emergency management officials there are offering sandbags to residents.
 
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[My very bestfriend is down south of Galvaston a bit in League City, TX /HTML]
 
Thats where my Aunt/Uncle Are, They Could not get out yesterday, they are staying.....    League City is 26 miles from the coast, 29' above sea level.. Good Luck to all who stayed....(or had to stay) ...   But it certainly would not be me !
 
No kidding... I can't imagine that someone would stay there after hearing that... What do people think?

Evacuation traffic is unreal, last time Aunt evacuated it took 19 hours to drive what normally is 2 1/2 hours approx 150 miles, need 300 miles min to get out of path... and most of Galveston, area already out of fuel yesterday aft noon..... I'll take the snow storms we get in Buffalo any day........But, some people just stay... to protect their house... or try to find out what neighborhood their roof landed in as far as i see it...
 
The Rita evacuation was a complete and total cluster f*ck. Part of the problem was that the gov types didn't do contra-flow traffic when they needed to (this is stopping south traffic and using all lanes for Northbound traffic). I had friends stranded for -no kidding- 24 hours on the highways.

Hopefully, this doesn't repeat. I have not heard anything yet, which is a good sign.
 
my friend said last night that most gas stations were out of fuel and that the traffic was a total mess. They are going to asses the conditions today and see if they need to leave. I did my best to talk them into leaving. I know they are not in Galveston but they are only 2 miles (max) from Galveston Bay. I am scared for them even if they aren't.
 
Most coastal areas do not have the infrastructure to support mass evacuation. One thing we learned is never wait....go early.

Most areas use "contra-flow" on limited access highways where all lanes on an interstate are used for evacuation and no traffic toward the coast is allowed. I don't know if Texas does this but Fla/Alabama do.
 
unfortunately they weren't able to go yesterday. Her husband has cancer and was having some treatments that could not be rescheduled. Hopefully it will not be as dire as they are predicting, but I am afraid that they do get it right once in a while. I know for Rita they used Contra-flow but my friend sat in traffic for 6 hours 30 miles from her home before she finally just turned around and went home. Maybe that is why some people are not leaving because they had made such dire predictions about Rita and nothing really came of it. She sent me a picture of her storm damage from Rita it was an overturned lawn chair.

fingers are crossed for everyone on the Texas coast.
 
Ga does contra flow on I16 out of Savannah, they still have not got it right yet. The last time was for Floyd, some people spent 20 hours just to go 150 miles to Macon. People actually pulled off in the median and set up grilles and started cooking, some probably stayed there all night and went back home the next morning. I waited until 2AM to leave, got about 50 miles out and I16 was still a parking lot. So I do hope that Texas people do get out in time especially off of the islands and near shore, the surge is going to be bad along with the wave action, there will be a lot of property loss and I hope that is all that is lost.
 
I'm sitting here watching TV and they just put up a story of about 25 people right on the beach in Galveston "drinking through the storm"...

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idiots... they'll be dead in a few hours... and their relatives will be upset because the government didn't rescue them.
 
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they are going to have to endure 20 hours of hurricane force winds. That's a lot of drinking.
 
It is sobering when the emergency management folks ask for your name and address so they can notify next of kin. That usually gets the hurricane partiers in a listening mode.

I've went thru a hurricane with 100-125 mph winds a few years ago. I don't drink, but if I did, I wouldn't have come out of the closet long enough to get the alcohol.........the fools in the photo above have never ridden out a hurricane before. It only takes a sane person once to enjoy all that fun he needs.
 
It is sobering when the emergency management folks ask for your name and address so they can notify next of kin.

Wasn't it prior to Katrina's landfall that officials asked those that stayed behind to write their name on their arm in permanent marker so they could be identified later?
 

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