Grill Pedestal Install

[Alex F]

Todd,
I'm sure there's a way to work it out most of the time. What I do like in your setup is that the base is under the step when it's closed. This way it's not visible and not in the way. But, also would like flexibility and not have any dependency between ladder and the grill. When you say space saver, do you refer to the round base? While I'm looking on how to do this on my 320 I'm wandering of there's a slim base with some kind of cover for the hole in the base to prevent foot injuries.

Alex.

 

[Alex F]

Todd,
The more I look at your setup, the more I think what you did is pretty much best option when we talk about convenience for swimmers (accidental falling off is a different story). Since the entry door is on one side (strbrd) and the ladder is on the opposite side (port) it’s no win situation. If you put the base anywhere else (unless it’s at the very end of the platform on the strbrd side) on that platform and the grill is on it’s still blocks the walking path and would be not safe. This would work fine if the platform was much wider.

Man, nothing is simple.

Alex.

 

[Nehalennia]

Todd,
The more I look at your setup, the more I think what you did is pretty much best option when we talk about convenience for swimmers (accidental falling off is a different story). Since the entry door is on one side (strbrd) and the ladder is on the opposite side (port) it’s no win situation. If you put the base anywhere else (unless it’s at the very end of the platform on the strbrd side) on that platform and the grill is on it’s still blocks the walking path and would be not safe. This would work fine if the platform was much wider.

Man, nothing is simple.

Alex.

First, I will never fall off while grilling unless pushed. That's ridiculous.
If I do I'll be laughing and post pictures............

Second, to address the tow stubbing. When this is deployed you won't have any toes near the post and it wouldn't hurt anyway. When stowed the lid is closed and covering the base anyway. You'd be more likely to stub your toe with the ladder hatch open on the ladder than the base.

Here's the Engine Bay with a board I made to stow it. (the post goes in the transom locker with the Propane Bottle)

Holes for the base.
It's completely out of the way. An easy rule is no swimming while cooking. Wait the 30-40 minutes. If anyone's bored....Polish the chrome or something.

 

[Turtlesboat]

If you are afraid of falling in, just put the ladder out before you put the grille on. If the kids are that nuts about swimming immediately after eating, then it's probably best not to let them back on the boat.

 

[Cocktail Time]

Man, nice install on the grill mount. If you fall in while grilling, I hope somebody smells your burning steaks and pulls your ass out before they burn. I'd be pissed if I was cooking and nobody would help two ladders or not.

By the way you guys with the 260's are some crafty boaters. I love it, but I wish there was a way for you to get some kind of discount from Sea Ray. You know they are reading this saying "why didn't we think of that"...

 

[wkearney99]

Here's the Engine Bay with a board I made to stow it. (the post goes in the transom locker with the Propane Bottle)

Nice job! I take it the weight of the grille alone has been enough to keep it in place?

 

[gredmer]

Thanks to Club Sea Ray and this thread I just spent another couple hundred on a new Magma with the pedestal mount.

 

[mrsrobinson]

Thanks to Club Sea Ray and this thread I just spent another couple hundred on a new Magma with the pedestal mount.

Like I tell the guys at West Marine every Monday afternoon, a weekend on the boat means a trip to West Marine on Monday. So now I can add CSR to this.

 

[Nehalennia]

Nice job! I take it the weight of the grille alone has been enough to keep it in place?

Thanks, Yes, but I'm going to put a strap on it, just in case.
I may paint the plywood too.

Thanks to Club Sea Ray and this thread I just spent another couple hundred on a new Magma with the pedestal mount.

You'll like it. Which one did you get.

I like the Newport. It really cooks more evenly than the kettle style.

 

[gengiant]

Has anyone found a way or heard of one that allows for mounting a Magma kettle grill to a pedestal? Replacing it with the Newport version simply isn't in the cards just yet. )~;

 

[gredmer]

Thanks, Yes, but I'm going to put a strap on it, just in case.
I may paint the plywood too.



You'll like it. Which one did you get.

I like the Newport. It really cooks more evenly than the kettle style.

The Catalina, I believe, the 12X18 one. I think the Newport is 9X18.
The cheapest I found it for was $269.00 +$54.00 for the pedestal mount. rivermarinesupply.com

 

[Nehalennia]

Yeah I looked at the Catalina, but decided the Newport is big enough and I wanted to be able to store it in the EB when not in use.
You'll love it. Are you mounting it as I did?

 

[gredmer]

Yeah I looked at the Catalina, but decided the Newport is big enough and I wanted to be able to store it in the EB when not in use.
You'll love it. Are you mounting it as I did?

Yes, I thought about one for my 240 and now this boat but I didn't want to mount it on a rail or cut a hole for a rod holder mount. When I saw your set up I was sold.
The wife and I are sick of eating junk food and the like on the boat and look forward to some chicken, burgers or kabobs.
Anytime I can help you spend $300.00 let me know.:grin:

 

[Bel_Mar_Pointe]

The Catalina, I believe, the 12X18 one. I think the Newport is 9X18.
The cheapest I found it for was $269.00 +$54.00 for the pedestal mount. rivermarinesupply.com

I too was sold after seeing Todd's install. I bought the Catalina, pedeastal mount and serving shelf from rivermarinesupply.com. No issues with the purchase, best price found and quick shipping. Hopefully I will get it installed this week but will have to do it with the boat in the water.

Anyone know about how thick to expect the swim platform to be for hardware? I could pop one the the swim ladder bolts out to check I guess, but sitting in the water makes it a little tougher.

 

[Nehalennia]

I too was sold after seeing Todd's install. I bought the Catalina, pedeastal mount and serving shelf from rivermarinesupply.com. No issues with the purchase, best price found and quick shipping. Hopefully I will get it installed this week but will have to do it with the boat in the water.

Anyone know about how thick to expect the swim platform to be for hardware? I could pop one the the swim ladder bolts out to check I guess, but sitting in the water makes it a little tougher.

It will take you 15-20 minutes to install. It's very easy. I believe I used 1 1/4" stainless flathead Philips 1/4"-20 screws with stainless fender washers and lock nuts.
The Platform is about 3/8" or 1/2" thick at the ladder location.

Make sure you install the grill on the base and get it tight. Then mark the base before you drill. Also Drill a hole in the middle so water can drain from the center of the base.

 

[gengiant]

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Make sure you install the grill on the base and get it tight. Then mark the base before you drill. Also Drill a hole in the middle so water can drain from the center of the base.

Todd,

I understand why you'd want a drain hole in the center of the mount, but aren't you concerned about the unsealed fiberglass at the core of that hole absorbing moisture? Did you gel-coat it somehow?

 

[wkearney99]

The magma pedestal comes with a square block (appears to be similar to 'starboard' pvc) designed to fit into the mounting holes in under the grill. That, in turn, is bolted to a cap for the pedestal. The kettle type don't have that sort of bolt pattern on the bottom, just a single hole. That and I'd think there would need to be some sort of separation to keep the heat of the kettle bottom away from it. The rectangular grills have a raised mount (for the drip tray) that serves that purpose.

You'd have to come up with something that fit the center hole on the grill and dissipated the heat enough. I'd guess some sort of 'box' would be ideal. Sort of like how a metal bracket is used to mount a wood deck post to a concrete column. One bolt at the top through the center for the grill and then four down into the pedestal mount.

 

[Nehalennia]

Todd,

I understand why you'd want a drain hole in the center of the mount, but aren't you concerned about the unsealed fiberglass at the core of that hole absorbing moisture? Did you gel-coat it somehow?

Yeah I put 5200 in there.

 

[gengiant]

The magma pedestal comes with a square block (appears to be similar to 'starboard' pvc) designed to fit into the mounting holes in under the grill. That, in turn, is bolted to a cap for the pedestal. The kettle type don't have that sort of bolt pattern on the bottom, just a single hole. That and I'd think there would need to be some sort of separation to keep the heat of the kettle bottom away from it. The rectangular grills have a raised mount (for the drip tray) that serves that purpose.

You'd have to come up with something that fit the center hole on the grill and dissipated the heat enough. I'd guess some sort of 'box' would be ideal. Sort of like how a metal bracket is used to mount a wood deck post to a concrete column. One bolt at the top through the center for the grill and then four down into the pedestal mount.

Hummmm... that got me thinking. A local metal supply shop sells rectangular heavy gage aluminum tubing (roughly 2"x4" if memory serves). I might be able to rig a 'heat separator' from that? I'll have to take a look at the kettle grill to see what its bottom plate looks like. Anyone here care to post a picture of the top of the pedestal, i.e. the cap that wkearney99 is refering to?

 

[Nehalennia]

The magma pedestal comes with a square block (appears to be similar to 'starboard' pvc) designed to fit into the mounting holes in under the grill. That, in turn, is bolted to a cap for the pedestal. The kettle type don't have that sort of bolt pattern on the bottom, just a single hole. That and I'd think there would need to be some sort of separation to keep the heat of the kettle bottom away from it. The rectangular grills have a raised mount (for the drip tray) that serves that purpose.

You'd have to come up with something that fit the center hole on the grill and dissipated the heat enough. I'd guess some sort of 'box' would be ideal. Sort of like how a metal bracket is used to mount a wood deck post to a concrete column. One bolt at the top through the center for the grill and then four down into the pedestal mount.

I assume your describing trying to mount the kettle style to the Pedestal. It would be difficult because the propane tube feeds through the threaded pipe at the bottom.