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Quite True John, Lost 2 more in the Stan last month. (Randy and John) True American Heroes!
I am very sorry. I know what it feels like. God bless.
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Quite True John, Lost 2 more in the Stan last month. (Randy and John) True American Heroes!
I know I'm getting way ahead of myself, but since alot of you guys have already winterized your boats...
Is IFR flying statistically significantly more dangerous than VFR?
Stupid question #2...
When I first started open ocean boating many years ago, I intentionally went out in increasingly worse conditions to "learn" how to handle a boat in big seas.
Natch, mis-handling of a boat in rough seas isn't going to kill you (hell, even if the boat sinks you're going to be fine with the proper safety equipment aboard).
If you're IFR certified, do you intentionally fly at night, or in low-vis conditions for "practice" and to stay sharp? Do most private pilots end up IFR certified, or is it mostly unnecessary for "fun" flying?
I know I'm getting way ahead of myself, but since alot of you guys have already winterized your boats...
Is IFR flying statistically significantly more dangerous than VFR?
Well you can look at this a few ways, most accidents happen in VFR conditions, but the most dagerus scenario is a VFR pilot flying into IFR conditions. I think they say the life expectency of a VFR pilot in IFR conditions is about 26 seconds.... Basicly VFR flying is using a minumal amount of instruments to acomplish a flight in descent weather, IFR flying takes navigating to a whole other level, as well a greater understanding of weather. The use of FAA approved sims are very helpfull in staying current in IFR flying, but you sure do want some actual time shooting approches down to minumums!! The thing that takes getting use to, is when you are down to the minumums.... and there are no runway lights, and you go missed approach...
I would recomend after you get your private, to get some hours under your belt just flying and getting comfortable in the plane before moving on to getting your Instrument rating, Someone above mention the new Recreational (Sport) license, I would not bother with this (IMOP) and go for your private.
EVE RY recreational pilot I have known (ok, except one) has spent alot of money getting a licence: and then let that licence lapse when he could'nt afford to keep up with the costs of being a rec. pilot. Spent 8 to 10 K , then nothing.....kids, mortgage, cars, etc always seem to come in the way.....just saying
One big difference spending money on an airplane is that you still have expenses when you get to your destination. Those would include ramp fees, landing fees, car rental, hotel, etc. On the boat, you reach your anchorage, turn off the key and your variable costs (excluding beer) go to zero.
HI John
Just curious, How can your boat cost you $335/hr to operate plus $20. I just cant wrap my little brain around this. My boats cost me fuel... I could, and should factor in $210 to launch her (the biggest one) and $210 to pull her out at the end of the year. Bottom paint every 3 years and misc (oil filters ect). I could factor in the life expect of the engines but they are gas burners I can build one for under a grand. What am I missing?
Phil
HI John
Just curious, How can your boat cost you $335/hr to operate plus $20. I just cant wrap my little brain around this. My boats cost me fuel... I could, and should factor in $210 to launch her (the biggest one) and $210 to pull her out at the end of the year. Bottom paint every 3 years and misc (oil filters ect). I could factor in the life expect of the engines but they are gas burners I can build one for under a grand. What am I missing?
Phil
It's $335 to operate which divides down to only $20/hour to enjoy.
Quck math
Depreciation $1500
Ins 200
Gas 500
Dock 150
Fix 300
Paint 100
Quick Total 2750/month
75 hours per year, gives $440 per hour to operate. I don't think I allowed that much depreciation when I did the math. Maintenance isn't that much either.
John,
Wow, he gets a great rate on insurance, must be a military benefit, ditto with the low slip fee.
By the way, low $2,000's/year is a great rate for Florida. It's Progressive with low deductibles and all of the required coverages - salvage... When I first signed up, I had 3 hits on my rate - 1 speeding ticket which was removed because I took the class. 1 hit on my credit rating because I didn't have credit before age 20 - I told them about my dorm room phone agreement and they took that fee away. I had 1 hit on my credit because of a late payment. I cleared that up with Chase and they took that hit away.
I am in the top bracket of 18 different brackets with Progressive. Each one of those lowered my insurance $275/year. Bother to clean up your past (and act). Then, check out their rates.