failed marriage

chris5635

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Aug 9, 2009
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Orange Beach, AL
Boat Info
29' Carver(left the Sea Ray camp, looking to come back)
Engines
twin 350's inboard
No..Not the kind your thinking of. Let me give you guys a little background about myself before I dive into asking advice on my current situation.

Im a 22 y/o college student in my 2nd to last quarter at Ohio State(Buckeye). I also work full-time at the Columbus airport(not a career but a good job for a college student) Ive posted on here a few times mostly just asking for quick advice but I do actively read everyone's stories and have learned a lot about boating from you guys(and a few funny stories there are some characters on here!) LoL.

Last year a friend of mine and I went halfs on a classic 1978 26' DA. Which we bought for 4k, which seemed like a pretty good deal for how much boat we got and the condition (which although it does have a few nicks and dock dings is overall pretty immaculate). I grew up on Erie and Cumberland so I am pretty situated to the dock life and everything that goes with it booze, good friends, conversation, fish stories, and steaks on saturday nights. My co-owner has not had this experience and although he seems to be enjoying himself quite a bit..His wife is not at all...

Last weekend was our first weekend all together on the boat...It didnt turn out the greatest...Me and her have never exactely gotten along that well considering they are 4 years older than me with two kids and she views me as a party animal college student who wants to put strippers in her husbands face..one time only and you have a rep for life

Anyways me being 22 young and restless I kind of lived up to my party animal reputation. First me and the co-owner(we did make it very clear last year that HIM and I were buying boat not THEM and I) stayed up all night friday and then proceeded to eat breakfast and light the fires at 5:30am saturday morning and went out..She wasn't thrilled by being woke up to the sound of 350 cutting open water..Saturday I went out on a friends boat all day to the bars to give them some space..The space lasted till about 1230am when I brought a girl back to the dock..Who convinced me to go swimming(I know swimming in marinas is a terrible idea but when a girl drops and shirt and bra and tells you it would be one of the biggest mistakes of your life not to get in this water you kind of just have to go...anyways after about 20 mins me and her decided its time to move to the boat..I was thinking they were fast asleep but not the case as me and naked girl board the boat....

Anyways and here is where I need the advice..if anyone is still reading after this novel of a post. I get a phone call monday morning telling me how his wife never wants him on the boat while I am there again...Pretty much proceeds to tell me we need to sell out or I need to buy him out...He had made a few comments earlier in the year about living 2 hours from the dock, whereas I only live 30 mins, and how he wasn't getting as much use as he wanted out of it and maybe we should maybe sell it...The boat is solely titled in my name(again HE and I bought the boat not THEM and I so we both agreed if a divorce ever occurred between THEM it would not be an issue)..

My real question is I dont want to sell the boat and I don't exactly want the whole boat(but I will buy his half with left with no other choice)..Part of the fun of a joint venture is half costs for everything. When we bought the boat we never talked about what each other's intentions would be for the boat once we had it..I always thought we would dock on cumberland which he wasn't willing to drive his 2 kids 5 hours(which was a realistic point so we found something as close as possible to splitting the difference) He never had any ideas of what you do with a 26' cabin cruiser. So its fair to say he bought it with out really knowing what he was getting into..As im sure all of you know boating is not all fun and games..

My real question is where should I start my offer of buying him out..All together I would say we put about 5k total in boat, life jackets, safety requirements, lines, fenders, etc, etc..So where should I start the bidding I know what he is thinking that is 50% or at least that what im guessing hes thinking. However, I feel like since we didn't buy a boat just to sell it a year later and I am being put at an inconvenience for that fact that I didn't plan on shelling out another 2k into the boat(at least not this soon) and many many more dollars for paying ALL maintenance and just general care and boat items should I not negotiate this in. He is a really good friend who I have known for years so I would like to keep that intact and Im not looking to screw anyone over(Sole title so I could but I wont) How should I proceed? Has anyone ever had this happen or know of it happens? Im sure with all the shared boats it has had to come up in the past...Anyhow thanks for any advice/comments because im sure people will have different opinions on this one..Good meeting everyone officially and happy boating the summer is opun us


Thanks,

Capt. Grizzly Bear
 
Well let me start by saying.... Yawn......ZZZZzzzzz.........
Sorry I couldn't resist! :grin: Listen, friends are worth much more than material things. That being said, I would definately pony up the 2k he put in on the initial shell out. As far as docking and maint. crap that's up to you. If it were one of my good friends and I could afford it I would try and give him most of the life jacket & accessory money as well as a fair portion of the dockage. I don't know your finances but, having gone through college myself once, I don't remember having an abundance of expendable capital back then. He may insist you try and sell it on the open market to recoup all your money, which prob won't happen. So you could always come back with an offer that is competative with the low ballers you are sure to see. At that point, your lower offer may actually look good to him :huh:. This way you save the friendship and a few $$ while being fair to both of you guys. Business and friends....when will we ever learn???? Good Luck! Todd
 
If your happy with the boat and think it is in great condition etc,give him his 2k and call it a day. If not. sell it,split the money and buy a new one.
 
Give him at least the 2K purchase cost back. If he is your bud (and you want him to remain your bud - in spite of his wife - assuming that is even possible) then I'd make him whole on his overall investment (but not in consumables like fuel, insurance, dock fees, etc.).
 
Chris, I'm sorry to say so...but your idea of buying a boat together was a recipe for disaster.... you’re single, he’s married with kids!!! No way!!

If you do not sell the boat or give your friend back what he paid for, it will be just worse and worse... his wife, being more and more jealous, will soon start complaining on spending money for the boat and not for the kids and so on...

So get rid of that partnership before loosing your friend :wink:
 
You're 22 so you don't get it. Someday you will (save this thread and read it back 10 years from now). YOU caused this problem primarily. You had to realize knowing his wife as you likely do, that she was not gong to like what happened. You put your own "needs" before those of your friend's. You're not partner material (sorry).


So do the right thing. If he really is a friend and you want that to last (real friends are VERY hard to find - are you one?), then:
  1. Apologize to him and his wife - sincerely.
  2. Offer to buy him out and make him whole. That means purchase price, improvements and equipment. It does not mean dockage and routine maintenance. That was his cost of ownership for the duration.
  3. If he wants to sell the boat in hopes of a profit, let him. Cooperate! Put his needs before your yours. There are a lot of boats out there. You'll find another. There are tons of boats out there.
  4. Stay friends. Don't brag about your "adventures" when around the wife. Respect her point of view. A friend does not come between him and his wife. THEY as a couple are more important than you.
Personality is what you do when someone is watching. Character is what you do when they are not.
 
i say buy him out so the rest of us married guys can keep living vicariously through you.

Really... I want more stories... pictures also..

Was this naked girl on the boat hot? Is it possible that is why the wife is mad?
 
Chris,

Get your bud's woman real drunk

Then, well, see this video to understand what to do next.

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g2oTuZPlfiM&feature=related[/youtube]
 
I agree with Jack380. cost of ownership aside, if you have the funds, buy him out for the 2k plus some of the gear. Cost of ownership--that's on him.

I do have one question, were the kids on the boat? if not, your friends wife should have got into the mix and really made it a night to remember:thumbsup:.
 
This thread is worthless without pictures.
 
I call B.S.
Sell the boat, nobody wins....
 
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are you really that immature?
 
Why you calling this guy immature? The only reason I bought my boat was for the booze and chicks... heck... I'm pretty sure I always sleep with two women in my bed on the boat.. one of them is kind of a dog... and hairy... and walks around the boat without any clothes on all the time... but still...
 
I wake up in the morning to one of my women sitting on my head.
 
If the kids were on the boat, then the above couple of post are correct.

If the kids were NOT on the boat, then this wife is...well she is what she is and you guys are fuddy duddies.

we are in our forties and when there are no kids around...good times...oh, the good times.

Were the kids on the boat?
 
Or is this her????



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This reminded me of those letters in Hustler.:grin:
 
If the kids were on the boat, then the above couple of post are correct.

If the kids were NOT on the boat, then this wife is...well she is what she is and you guys are fuddy duddies.

we are in our forties and when there are no kids around...good times...oh, the good times.

Were the kids on the boat?

"fuddy dudies'???? :huh:

I want to party with you, cowboy!
 

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