Evicted from the marina!

[mwph]

If you believe frugality=stupity and/or poor economics,consider this. H L Hunt brown bagged lunch. Do any of you question his ability to handle money? How many slip renters and dock owners can you name who are more intelegent than Mr Hunt? Kind of a stretch, but OK.
Snobbery has no bounds. A Frisco Tx HOA took it on them selves to dictate what kind of vehicle residents can not drive and took a property owner to task over his new,undamaged,factory color(read common) F-150. As was mentioned earlier, if he signed on, he should havre read the rules. If he did not like the enforcement, he could move.
Is it probable a person can pour fuel from a can into a tank without incedent? Those who specialize in fuel handeling(not from arm chairs) agree handling anhydrous ammonia and propane is far more hazardous than gasoline and diesel. I was taught at 11yo by my 17yo brother to handel all 4 and went on to handel thousands of transfers(as did my brothers and numerous other youngersters)without incedent. And,BTW,regarding diy boat repair,same youngsters made minior on the spot equipment repairs and adjustments. Don't you think a 20+ man should be able to pour fuel in his boat without causing concurn? I don't think anyone questioned any specific persons ability, just the practice in general, for multiple reasons. I may be fully trained & qualified to defuse a bomb, but trust me, you don't want me practicing next to your house.
Ok, I know about your neighbor's crack head son but that's one out of how many?
I believe post #1 set a sorry tone by using disparaging terms to discribe the subject then going on to talk about law enforcment being involved. First off, when I referenced Jim-Bob, Bubba or whoever, rest assured it was an attempt at comedy. While in "Bama", I frequently use the reference. Noboby has complained yet. Personaly,I would be a little miffed to find out my taxs were spent refereeing rules made by yacht clubs,gated communities, country clubs and such. Law enforcement is not limited to inside the city limits. I pay some serious taxes & If a slip neighbor calls the police, I want them there investigating. I may be wrong about Bama but Texas would view this as non criminal activity and a public servent would be repermanded for wasting public resources. I'm sure we both could find bigger fish to fry than this.
Point is,it appears to me some have used this as a springboard in an attempting to place themselves above others in one form or other. Has live and let live gone out of style?

Nothing personal, just had to reply.

 

[OldSkool]

I thought ya’ll called that “Damn Yankees”

Bill, we only use Damn when it's someone from New York or Jersey.:lol:

 

[OldSkool]

If you believe frugality=stupity and/or poor economics,consider this. H L Hunt brown bagged lunch. Do any of you question his ability to handle money? How many slip renters and dock owners can you name who are more intelegent than Mr Hunt? Where's the relevance? I don't think any of us are going to make millions fueling our own boats.
Snobbery has no bounds. A Frisco Tx HOA took it on them selves to dictate what kind of vehicle residents can not drive and took a property owner to task over his new,undamaged,factory color(read common) F-150. So I'm a Snob if I live in an area that has contracts and rule to govern by?
Is it probable a person can pour fuel from a can into a tank without incedent? Those who specialize in fuel handeling(not from arm chairs) agree handling anhydrous ammonia and propane is far more hazardous than gasoline and diesel. I was taught at 11yo by my 17yo brother to handel all 4 and went on to handel thousands of transfers(as did my brothers and numerous other youngersters)without incedent. And,BTW,regarding diy boat repair,same youngsters made minior on the spot equipment repairs and adjustments. Don't you think a 20+ man should be able to pour fuel in his boat without causing concurn? He should as long as he doesn't run the risk of blowing his neighbor up. I believe gas floats on water and may transfer to my boat when you miss the mark.
Ok, I know about your neighbor's crack head son but that's one out of how many?
I believe post #1 set a sorry tone by using disparaging terms to discribe the subject then going on to talk about law enforcment being involved. Personaly,I would be a little miffed to find out my taxs were spent refereeing rules made by yacht clubs,gated communities, country clubs and such. I may be wrong about Bama but Texas would view this as non criminal activity and a public servent would be repermanded for wasting public resources. That's what they do for the community. Keep the peace. Why should they call the police if you cause an accident. I didn't do it so why use my tax dollars to pay for your accident investigation?
Point is,it appears to me some have used this as a springboard in an attempting to place themselves above others in one form or other. Has live and let live gone out of style? Seriously, where did anyone say he was above anyone else here. There's a pic of Turtlesboat loading up his 45 footer with cans. Guess he's one of those poor down and outers.

You need to get over this the have, have not attitude if you want to play here.

BWT, I have a 76' 20ft SR guess that makes me a snob too.

 

[wvsundancer]

I do not understand how someone can confuse "personal freedom" and following rules as a conflict. If you do not want to follow the rules that are set up to ensure the safety, enjoyment, welfare of the group and security then you are free to move your boat to a place where your wants needs and desires can be met. Your desire to excerise your personnel freedom is fine as long as it does not cause harm or discomfort to those sround you. That is why we have a boat club and why we have rules

 

[fwebster]

You all seem to be forgetting that, unless you are at a state or municipally owned marina, you keep your boat at a privately owned facility. So climb down off your moral indignation high horse and accept the fact that you are there at the marina owner's pleasure and can be evicted and banned from the property when the owner wishes. Nothing else in this discussion seems to matter....you either follow the rules or move on.

 

[Woody]

You all seem to be forgetting that, unless you are at a state or municipally owned marina, you keep your boat at a privately owned facility. So climb down off your moral indignation high horse and accept the fact that you are there at the marina owner's pleasure and can be evicted and banned from the property when the owner wishes. Nothing else in this discussion seems to matter....you either follow the rules or move on.

I'm in a county run marina, my contract covers all these same issues. The current Harbormaster is somewhat lenient but some of the guys are going to screw it up. For example...their frequent use of the picnic tables as a workbench for repairing and rebuilding stuff is creating some conflict among slip holders. No one has brought it to the Harbormaster yet but when they do the Harbormaster will have to clamp down. I know the DIY mechanics will be pi$$ed but those are the rules.

 

[rondds]

Nothing else in this discussion seems to matter....you either follow the rules or move on.

See post #95 ;-)

 

[AKBASSKING]

I like that one, now I have a new acronym (ACA disorder) I can use, which pretty much describes my kid’s attitude of “you can’t tell me”! I usually tell them fine, go find out the hard way then!

And I can see Russia from my back door????:grin:

It's not about you can't tell me what to do. I choice also not to pay for an oppressive marina that won't let me do my own work or force me to buy their gas at their extorted prices, so I am good....:thumbsup:

 

[mwph]

"Extorted" prices at the marina's fuel dock is WAY down on my list of things to be pissed about. In many aspects of life, boating included, convenience cost.

Hell, the street prices are far more extorted and affect many more people.

 

[Turtlesboat]

I'm still stuck a few pages back on the nudist marina in FL

 

[sdarc]

I'm still stuck a few pages back on the nudist marina in FL

No $h!t!!! I was hoping for pics.

 

[hack4alivin]

See post #95 ;-)

I'm still trying to figure out post 99 ??

 

[2texoma]

Bill,so there is no misunderstanding,this is about you,yes you,OldSkool,post 103 author. How and why did you insert your self as the target of anything I said? I sense baiting but I will respond if for no other reason to find out exactly what authority you have to issue warnings about members "playing here". Do you have the ability to eject members? Are you a mod,admin,apointed to issue warnings about "playing here" or what?
Although I stated everything as clearly as I could,here's a simple version for the benifit of you Bill and anyone else who's head it went over initialy.
Where's the relevance?
Frugal is a mindset shared by many sucessful people. They don't squander large nor small sums of money.
Reference to money management was in response to thoes debating time management and dollar savings.
So I'm a Snob if I live in an area that has contracts and rule to govern by?
No. The snobs in my example were the HOA repersentives who applied the rules selectivly. The victim lived in the area. Did you think I called the resident with the truck a snob?
That's what they do for the community. Keep the peace. Why should they call the police if you cause an accident. I didn't do it so why use my tax dollars to pay for your accident investigation?
Bill,nation wide there is criminal law which is inforced by tax paid officers,district attorneies and others hired by the citizenery. There are also what is commonly reffered to as civil law. Civil law is what contracts normaly fall under as far as terms and bylaws. It is misconduct when like in this case,the sheriff comes out because he's friends with the owner. It's not quite all that simple but hopfuly you now understand why the sheriff investigates traffic accidents but not some guy painting his house in violation of HOA rules,or people sneeking gas to their boat. If the live on board resident feared a fire might result from the diy fueling, calling the fire department was 100% justifted.
Seriously, where did anyone say he was above anyone else here.
Nowhere but people intrusted with inforceing rules and bylaws of HOAs and private clubs are prone to apply them selectivly to suit their agenda. 9 times out of 10 , the agenda involves putting themselves above someone else. Wherther anyone here does that,I have no way of knowing but I havn't heard it advocated.
There's a pic of Turtlesboat loading up his 45 footer with cans. Guess he's one of those poor down and outers.
Your remark about Turtlesboat is something you dreamed up because I certainly didn't talk about down and outers nor TurtlesBoat nor his 45 footer with or without cans.
BWT, I have a 76' 20ft SR guess that makes me a snob too.
Bill I didn't discuss material possessions in any fashion that could point to size,color,age nor brand of any boat,much less yours.
My feeling about rules is we need rules as long as they are applied equaly.

 

[dicor]

"I thought ya’ll called that “Damn Yankees”

Bill, we only use Damn when it's someone from New York or Jersey.:lol:

As a Yankee born and raised in Pennsylvania but lived in Austin Texas for 10 years where by the way anyone North of Waco is considered a Yankee. There is a distinction between Yankees and Damn Yankees. A Yankee is someone from up North and Damn Yankee is someone from up North driving thru your neighborhood towing a U-Haul trailer.v:smt043

 

[OldSkool]

"I thought ya’ll called that “Damn Yankees”



As a Yankee born and raised in Pennsylvania but lived in Austin Texas for 10 years where by the way anyone North of Waco is considered a Yankee. There is a distinction between Yankees and Damn Yankees. A Yankee is someone from up North and Damn Yankee is someone from up North driving thru your neighborhood towing a U-Haul trailer.v:smt043

That's just too funny there!! I see what you mean. BTW I wasn't pointing out all New Yorkers, just the New York City folks. (Even then it's in good fun.):grin:
So what do you call a guy who was born in the south, went to primary school in PA, high schooll in the mid west and worked in Wisc for many years, only to return to the south and raise children and grandchildren in the souther heritage? :smt101

 

[Woody]

Hey you guys, that isn't a 45 footer that Turtlesboat is fueling up with those red cans. Besides he'd be breaking rules if he was...diesel in red cans :smt009.

 

[OldSkool]

Hey you guys, that isn't a 45 footer that Turtlesboat is fueling up with those red cans. Besides he'd be breaking rules if he was...diesel in red cans :smt009.

Good catch Woodyman. I was looking at his profile and seen the 45'. Still the boat he is fueling does not look cheap and that was my point. Diesel in red cans....BAD...
If the boat is not 45' then it may well have gassers in it.

 

[Woody]

Good catch Woodyman. I was looking at his profile and seen the 45'. Still the boat he is fueling does not look cheap and that was my point. Diesel in red cans....BAD...
If the boat is not 45' then it may well have gassers in it.

Yes it is gas, that's his last boat, a 280DA, looks big in that pic doesn't it. His 2 footitis was severe, 28' to 45' in one jump.:lol:

 

[OldSkool]

2texoma
Bill,so there is no misunderstanding,this is about you,yes you,OldSkool,post 103 author. How and why did you insert your self as the target of anything I said? I sense baiting but I will respond if for no other reason to find out exactly what authority you have to issue warnings about members "playing here".
Do you have the ability to eject members? Are you a mod,admin,apointed to issue warnings about "playing here" or what?
I have no authority other than I pay to play here and you don't. Vest yourself even if it's only 25 bucks. Folks here like it when you have skin in the game.
Was I baiting you? Good call. Always like to know if newbies are going to stick or run at opposition.

Although I stated everything as clearly as I could,here's a simple version for the benifit of you Bill and anyone else who's head it went over initialy.
Where's the relevance?
Frugal is a mindset shared by many sucessful people. They don't squander large nor small sums of money.
Reference to money management was in response to thoes debating time management and dollar savings.
Your point is well taken however gain that is gotten illegally is not counted as fair play. Anyone who gains by disobeying the rules can not be used as an example of frugality.

No. The snobs in my example were the HOA repersentives who applied the rules selectivly. The victim lived in the area. Did you think I called the resident with the truck a snob?
You called the home owners in the HOA snobs for upholding the rules. Selectively or not rules are rules. It can be argued in court if HOA's are showing preferential treatment. He is clearly a victim in your eyes but we don’t know what vantage point you have in the incident. Please let us know how the person made out with the HOA. What grounds did the HOA have to harass this guy and what was the extent of the tasks he was put through. Lastly, your post implies that the HOA members are snobs. When you live in a development you are considered an HOA member therefore if I live in a gated or private community I am a snob by default according to your definition.

Bill,nation wide there is criminal law which is inforced by tax paid officers,district attorneies and others hired by the citizenery. There are also what is commonly reffered to as civil law. Civil law is what contracts normaly fall under as far as terms and bylaws. It is misconduct when like in this case,the sheriff comes out because he's friends with the owner. It's not quite all that simple but hopfuly you now understand why the sheriff investigates traffic accidents but not some guy painting his house in violation of HOA rules,or people sneeking gas to their boat. If the live on board resident feared a fire might result from the diy fueling, calling the fire department was 100% justifted.
Really, warrants are served on civil suits all the time. If you break a contract you commit a crime. Courts enforce these contracts every day. It makes no different if the cop is a friend or not the law is the law. Traffic accidents are civil matters until clear negligence can be found. The cops don’t wait for an attorney to point out a malefactor before they investigate. They go to the scene and help those involved, investigate for negligence and document the incident. This is the vein I was talking about in my post.

Nowhere but people intrusted with inforceing rules and bylaws of HOAs and private clubs are prone to apply them selectivly to suit their agenda. 9 times out of 10 , the agenda involves putting themselves above someone else. Wherther anyone here does that,I have no way of knowing but I havn't heard it advocated.
Can you provide the research to prove this 9-10 times? I have lived in many communities and can say that most of the time the bylaws are lax if anything. If someone is called to task then all that have stretched the rules are involved.

Your remark about Turtlesboat is something you dreamed up because I certainly didn't talk about down and outers nor TurtlesBoat nor his 45 footer with or without cans.
I believe this was your post. "Point is,it appears to me some have used this as a springboard in an attempting to place themselves above others in one form or other. Has live and let live gone out of style?"
Being above others insinuates that someone is of a lower class and they are trying to gain prominence at someone else’s expense or miss fortune. Again it is in this vein that I made my comparison.

My feeling about rules is we need rules as long as they are applied equaly.
On this we can agree.
Thank you for your respectful reply to my last post.


BTW post some pictures of your boat and add a signature.

 

[Larry&Leisa]

So what do you call a guy who was born in the south, went to primary school in PA, high schooll in the mid west and worked in Wisc for many years, only to return to the south and raise children and grandchildren in the souther heritage? :smt101

A smart man finally home