Evicted from the marina!

Way to go Turtle!

I don't get these marinas that have all these rules about working or gassing your boat. I for one would never stay at such a socialist place! As far as filling up with cans, so long as the can is approved for gasoline or diesel and the owner takes care when filling, there is no difference than going to a fuel dock other than your wallet is a little fatter...... Really? I have a choice and that is to act with my feet and my money. Yep it is my money and I choose who does what on my boat not the marina.....
Depends how you want to look at things, from your view restrictive, from your neighbors view maybe not. I share a narrow dock with my slip neighbor. I don't want him fueling or the smell of gas when I'm cooking on the marinas shore grill or my boat grill. I don't want him fueling up when I'm sitting on my boat smoking a stogey. I don't want to put out my stogey just because he wants to fuel up. I don't want to swim in that sheen on the water from his drippy gas cans. I don't want him backing up on the lawn between the picnic tables so he don't have to carry cans so far, that's were the girls sun on their blanket and the little kids play. Without my marinas rules to prevent this, him and I would have serious conflicts. While some of these rules may be individually disliked I think a side effect is peace and harmony among the slip holders...my slip neighbor likes me...he's just disagrees with the marinas fueling policy.
 
Way to go Turtle!

I don't get these marinas that have all these rules about working or gassing your boat. I for one would never stay at such a socialist place! As far as filling up with cans, so long as the can is approved for gasoline or diesel and the owner takes care when filling, there is no difference than going to a fuel dock other than your wallet is a little fatter...... Really? I have a choice and that is to act with my feet and my money. Yep it is my money and I choose who does what on my boat not the marina.....

I suspect from your answer that your "Alaskan Culture Attitude" is showing. That's the "ain't nobody gonna tell me what I can do and not do on my own damn property."

In PDX you don't have to fuel at their pumps because there are numerous places where you could go if you didn't like their service or prices. Probably not so much on Big Lake, AK where you're from.

RonDDS said:
Some interesting clauses to look for in your contract...
1. no outside contractors
2. outside contractors must check in at the office. This is to be sure they are insured, but they may be charged an "entrance fee," which is tacked on to the boat-owner's bill
3. absolutely no DIY (this includes changing a prop on your outdrive or a zinc on your engine)
4. if you put a "For Sale" sign on your boat and if it sells, the marina gets 10%
Thankfully our marina doesn't have those restrictions. Outside contractors must check in at the office but that's just so they know who is on the docks. There's no entrance fee for contractors and they marina doesn't charge the boat owner. Our marina also not only doesn't charge anything when someone sells a boat, they will advertise them in the monthly newsletter.
 
Way to go Turtle!

I don't get these marinas that have all these rules about working or gassing your boat. I for one would never stay at such a socialist place! As far as filling up with cans, so long as the can is approved for gasoline or diesel and the owner takes care when filling, there is no difference than going to a fuel dock other than your wallet is a little fatter...... Really? I have a choice and that is to act with my feet and my money. Yep it is my money and I choose who does what on my boat not the marina.....

Socialist place?
Rules are rules, like them or move on.
It's only "socialist" if you can't move on.
 
How many hours does it take to "lug" all that fuel? What do you make an hour doing it?

Hours...? It probably is only 10 minutes or so. A good excuse to get down to the pier and enjoy the scenery.
How much do I make? ???
 
Depends how you want to look at things, from your view restrictive, from your neighbors view maybe not. I share a narrow dock with my slip neighbor. I don't want him fueling or the smell of gas when I'm cooking on the marinas shore grill or my boat grill. I don't want him fueling up when I'm sitting on my boat smoking a stogey. I don't want to put out my stogey just because he wants to fuel up. I don't want to swim in that sheen on the water from his drippy gas cans. I don't want him backing up on the lawn between the picnic tables so he don't have to carry cans so far, that's were the girls sun on their blanket and the little kids play. Without my marinas rules to prevent this, him and I would have serious conflicts. While some of these rules may be individually disliked I think a side effect is peace and harmony among the slip holders...my slip neighbor likes me...he's just disagrees with the marinas fueling policy.

Well I did forget to mention "common sense!"
 
I suspect from your answer that your "Alaskan Culture Attitude" is showing. That's the "ain't nobody gonna tell me what I can do and not do on my own damn property."

In PDX you don't have to fuel at their pumps because there are numerous places where you could go if you didn't like their service or prices. Probably not so much on Big Lake, AK where you're from.

Funny I gassed my boat in my slip in Kalama.....but then again
 
Depends how you want to look at things, from your view restrictive, from your neighbors view maybe not. I share a narrow dock with my slip neighbor. I don't want him fueling or the smell of gas when I'm cooking on the marinas shore grill or my boat grill. I don't want him fueling up when I'm sitting on my boat smoking a stogey. I don't want to put out my stogey just because he wants to fuel up. I don't want to swim in that sheen on the water from his drippy gas cans. I don't want him backing up on the lawn between the picnic tables so he don't have to carry cans so far, that's were the girls sun on their blanket and the little kids play. Without my marinas rules to prevent this, him and I would have serious conflicts. While
some of these rules may be individually disliked I think a side effect is peace and harmony among the slip holders...my slip neighbor likes me...he's just disagrees with the marinas fueling policy.

Really?! Heres another perspective - I don't want to smell that crap your cooking on the grill or that disgusting stogey wafting through the air making my stomach turn. Nor do I want to see you in a bathing suit wailing around in the water in my marina, around my boat. And I probably don't want to see your girls sun bathing or listen to your kids making noise. Maybe your dock neighbor doesnt like you at all, it's just the rules. That's just the way I look at things and without those marina rules he would discuss those serious conflicts with you without prejudice.
 
Really?! Heres another perspective - I don't want to smell that crap your cooking on the grill or that disgusting stogey wafting through the air making my stomach turn. Nor do I want to see you in a bathing suit wailing around in the water in my marina, around my boat. And I probably don't want to see your girls sun bathing or listen to your kids making noise. Maybe your dock neighbor doesnt like you at all, it's just the rules. That's just the way I look at things and without those marina rules he would discuss those serious conflicts with you without prejudice.
Exactly, I can see you understand the importance of having rules.
 
I suspect from your answer that your "Alaskan Culture Attitude" is showing. That's the "ain't nobody gonna tell me what I can do and not do on my own damn property."

In PDX you don't have to fuel at their pumps because there are numerous places where you could go if you didn't like their service or prices. Probably not so much on Big Lake, AK where you're from.


Thankfully our marina doesn't have those restrictions. Outside contractors must check in at the office but that's just so they know who is on the docks. There's no entrance fee for contractors and they marina doesn't charge the boat owner. Our marina also not only doesn't charge anything when someone sells a boat, they will advertise them in the monthly newsletter.

I like that one, now I have a new acronym (ACA disorder) I can use, which pretty much describes my kid’s attitude of “you can’t tell me”! I usually tell them fine, go find out the hard way then!
 
I like that one, now I have a new acronym (ACA disorder) I can use, which pretty much describes my kid’s attitude of “you can’t tell me”! I usually tell them fine, go find out the hard way then!

No acronym here but "We don't care how you do it up north" is what we say in NC.:lol:
 
I hope this question is not too far off topic; do marinas have age limits for the vessels they allow to have slips? This is common in tourist areas for RV parks, no RV's older than 10 or 15 years.

MM
 
Condos have association rules, as do HOAs. Some sound wacky at first glance, but there's usually a good reason for each "wacky" rule. What color you can paint your house, how far away from your home you can cut a tree down, etc. You know what you're getting into when you buy in. If you didn't it's your own fault - don't like it? Move on.

No DIY is a rule that I would NOT be able to live with. I don't believe that has anything to do with insurance issues. That's just an owner who wants to purge the marina of all DIY'rs so that he can turn the service department into a thriving cash cow. It's a philosophy and a business plan - I have no problem with it - they can run their business any way they like; but I would never sign on with a marina that oppressive.
 
MM, not that I've ever seen, unless the old boat is a derelict and not kept up. Many marinas have rules against derelict boats but they're difficult to enforce. One man's view of a boat as a derelict is another man's "restoration in progress".
 
Hours...? It probably is only 10 minutes or so. A good excuse to get down to the pier and enjoy the scenery.
How much do I make? ???

I break everything down to "what do I make per hour" to decide if I will do it or hire it out. I can make $10 an hour mowing my own grass so I hire that out. I figure you make $40 an hour and consume 6 hours or so to do $300 in gas so the pay is not too bad in your example bsaed on saving $1 per gallon.. You cut the hourly rate in half if you save 50 cents. This does not account for bodily were and tear, I'd be very upset if I injured myself or damaged something carrying gas to the boat to save a minor (in boating dollars) amount of money.

MM
 
If you believe frugality=stupity and/or poor economics,consider this. H L Hunt brown bagged lunch. Do any of you question his ability to handle money? How many slip renters and dock owners can you name who are more intelegent than Mr Hunt?
Snobbery has no bounds. A Frisco Tx HOA took it on them selves to dictate what kind of vehicle residents can not drive and took a property owner to task over his new,undamaged,factory color(read common) F-150.
Is it probable a person can pour fuel from a can into a tank without incedent? Those who specialize in fuel handeling(not from arm chairs) agree handling anhydrous ammonia and propane is far more hazardous than gasoline and diesel. I was taught at 11yo by my 17yo brother to handel all 4 and went on to handel thousands of transfers(as did my brothers and numerous other youngersters)without incedent. And,BTW,regarding diy boat repair,same youngsters made minior on the spot equipment repairs and adjustments. Don't you think a 20+ man should be able to pour fuel in his boat without causing concurn?
Ok, I know about your neighbor's crack head son but that's one out of how many?
I believe post #1 set a sorry tone by using disparaging terms to discribe the subject then going on to talk about law enforcment being involved. Personaly,I would be a little miffed to find out my taxs were spent refereeing rules made by yacht clubs,gated communities, country clubs and such. I may be wrong about Bama but Texas would view this as non criminal activity and a public servent would be repermanded for wasting public resources.
Point is,it appears to me some have used this as a springboard in an attempting to place themselves above others in one form or other. Has live and let live gone out of style?
 
I break everything down to "what do I make per hour" to decide if I will do it or hire it out. I can make $10 an hour mowing my own grass so I hire that out. I figure you make $40 an hour and consume 6 hours or so to do $300 in gas so the pay is not too bad in your example bsaed on saving $1 per gallon.. You cut the hourly rate in half if you save 50 cents. This does not account for bodily were and tear, I'd be very upset if I injured myself or damaged something carrying gas to the boat to save a minor (in boating dollars) amount of money.

MM
That is a benefit, physical activity, I don't know how you would assign $$ value though. Start out lite with a couple gals a can and eventually you'll be looking buff and carrying two full cans at a time.:lol:
 

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