Electoral Vote Prediction

OllieC said:
How did he 'fan the flames'?
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Did you listen to his speech to the supporters this morning? Listen to it and tell me he didn't embolden the radicals in that crowd. I listened to it the AM, and my reaction was - "This is going to get bad. He is riling up an unruly mob."

He is the goddam president of the USA. What he says matters. He knew (or should have known) that that protest could get violent and he very easily could have sent a very different message by specifically saying that no matter what, they must be peaceful.

And a lame tweet 6hrs later doesn't change it. Just watch how his tweets will change to "the radical democrats caused the trump supporters to violence."

This is all very pathetic. Is this the America you want to live in? More than 50% of your fellow Minnesotans voted Democrat. So while you are defending your fellow Trump supporters' actions in DC, they are disgusted by it.
 
Creekwood said:
Well its your party. If it went to the shits, you helped let it happen and Trump is making it worse, not better. Maybe he is a symptom, not a cause. But he was not a cure either.

And stop telling me I am not informed. You have no idea how well informed I am any more than I do about you.
I know that there seems to be a view by some (including Trump), that the best way to debate a topic is to insult the other side or say they are not informed. Never in the history of the world has that ever led to a constructive outcome. In a bar it leads to a fight. In the real world it has never solved a difficult divergence of opinion. Trump tried to tell America that if they voted Democrat they were radical Antifa liberals. Like Hillary when she said that Trump supporters were deplorables, Trump got his ass kicked by doing the same thing in the only bar fight that matters.
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Sorry, but your not. You keep opining on Republican and US politics but most of it seems based on main stream media accounts. They are clueless and liars.

And it ain't "my party." I'll vote for them because the Democrats are nuts and worse. But they, the Republicans sold guys like me out years ago.
 
Creekwood said:
Did you listen to his speech to the supporters this morning? Listen to it and tell me he didn't embolden the radicals in that crowd. I listened to it the AM, and my reaction was - "This is going to get bad. He is riling up an unruly mob."

He is the goddam president of the USA. What he says matters. He knew (or should have known) that that protest could get violent and he very easily could have sent a very different message by specifically saying that no matter what, they must be peaceful.

And a lame tweet 6hrs later doesn't change it. Just watch how his tweets will change to "the radical democrats caused the trump supporters to violence."

This is all very pathetic. Is this the America you want to live in? More than 50% of your fellow Minnesotans voted Democrat. So while you are defending your fellow Trump supporters' actions in DC, they are disgusted by it.
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Sorry but there wasn't any violence, at least as compared to what we saw last summer. A little pushing and shoving, but mostly selfies and stuff. Nothing lit on fire. Senate/House floor not ransacked. Pelosi's office not ransacked. The media has their panties in a bunch. Where was everyone as Kenosha car dealers where burned to the ground, etc. So over all the bull chit.

And no, it is no longer the America I want to live in. I'm in favor serious secession talks.
 
Creekwood said:
Did you listen to his speech to the supporters this morning? Listen to it and tell me he didn't embolden the radicals in that crowd. I listened to it the AM, and my reaction was - "This is going to get bad. He is riling up an unruly mob."

He is the goddam president of the USA. What he says matters. He knew (or should have known) that that protest could get violent and he very easily could have sent a very different message by specifically saying that no matter what, they must be peaceful.

This is all very pathetic. Is this the America you want to live in? More than 50% of your fellow Minnesotans voted Democrat. So while you are defending your fellow Trump supporters' actions in DC, they are disgusted by it.
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Yes, I listened to the whole thing. You must have listened to something different.

How would he know people were going to storm the Capitol Building?

Yes, and those same Democrats allowed my cities to burn for days....so save it.....and when did I say I defended the actions of violence, "ASS CLOWN"?
 
OllieC said:
Yes, I listened to the whole thing. You must have listened to something different.

How would he know people were going to storm the Capitol Building?

Yes, and those same Democrats allowed my cities to burn for days....so save it.....and when did I say I defended the actions of violence, "ASS CLOWN"?
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Dude, they where taking selfies with the Capitol Police. This was nothing even close to the crap we saw this summer. Politicians need to get over themselves and go talk to the guys who had their businesses burned to the ground.
 
OllieC said:
Yes, I listened to the whole thing. You must have listened to something different.

How would he know people were going to storm the Capitol Building?

Yes, and those same Democrats allowed my cities to burn for days....so save it.....and when did I say I defended the actions of violence, "ASS CLOWN"?
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If you listened to Trumps this morning he told his cult that they will march to the Capitol building together.
When the curfew kicks in at 6:00 it will get ugly. The "ASS CLOWN" is Trump hiding in the White House after starting a riot.
The count will continue and Biden will be confirmed as per the Constitution.
 
Iprof said:
If you listened to Trumps this morning he told his cult that they will march to the Capitol building together.
When the curfew kicks in at 6:00 it will get ugly. The "ASS CLOWN" is Trump hiding in the White House after starting a riot.
The count will continue and Biden will be confirmed as per the Constitution.
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Yawn.....
 
OllieC said:
Yawn.....
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I'm not surprised you don't care about the breaking of windows and the damage done to a historical building your cult leader promoted it.
 
Listening to the MSM is as expected. It's an attack, the capitol is under siege, it's chaos, a riot, they're rioters, boy the tear gas and flash bangs work good, this is undermining law/order and democracy itself. They're in shock, my God....people are breaking the law.
 
Woody said:
Listening to the MSM is as expected. It's an attack, the capitol is under siege, it's chaos, a riot, they're rioters, boy the tear gas and flash bangs work good, this is undermining law/order and democracy itself. They're in shock, my God....people are breaking the law.
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Tell that to the woman that was shot and died. Just more blood on Trump the cowards hands. He instigated the riot then ran and hid must have been the bone spurs.
 
Iprof said:
I'm not surprised you don't care about the breaking of windows and the damage done to a historical building your cult leader promoted it.
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I do not. Especially when the people in that building didn't give two chits about people's businesses being looted and burned to the ground. The "rioters" didn't even clear the papers off the desks.
 
Woody said:
Listening to the MSM is as expected. It's an attack, the capitol is under siege, it's chaos, a riot, they're rioters, boy the tear gas and flash bangs work good, this is undermining law/order and democracy itself. They're in shock, my God....people are breaking the law.
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Worse the Watergate?
 
Golfman25 said:
I do not. Especially when the people in that building didn't give two chits about people's businesses being looted and burned to the ground. The "rioters" didn't even clear the papers off the desks.
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Ya but one guy sat in Pelosi chair and put his feet up on her desk. There's pictures.
 
Iprof said:
I'm not surprised you don't care about the breaking of windows and the damage done to a historical building your cult leader promoted it.
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I’m not surprised, you, like Ass Clown, assume I condone violence. Nowhere have I ever said such things here or anywhere. However I’m sure creekwood does appreciate his ignorant grandmother coming to his rescue by inserting himself into our conversation.
 
Woody said:
What's that got to do with the MSM coverage of the event?
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You must have missed the video not surprised the cult members have selective sight.
 
OllieC said:
I’m not surprised, you, like Ass Clown, assume I condone violence. Nowhere have I ever said such things here or anywhere. However I’m sure creekwood does appreciate his ignorant grandmother coming to his rescue by inserting himself into our conversation.
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Yawn dullard
 
Woody said:
Ya but one guy sat in Pelosi chair and put his feet up on her desk. There's pictures.
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That's kinda my point. I mean, if you where actually rioting and isurrecting wouldn't you turn the place over? Steal the secret files? Find out who killed Kennedy? Or what happened in Roswell?

The contrast from the summer of looting couldn't be more clear.
 
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