Cummins 450 parts

It was a big learning curve for me last year when I boat my boat but it has been great. I have made a list of parts as I go along so if there is anything else please let me know. You can also go to Westerbeke website and the have a complete list of all parts that is needed for a service.
 
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Belt part number is: cummins 3288812 for the mains. I used the 125w pan heaters, and am very happy, but I boat on the west coast so? Check out www.truckhelp.com for fleetguard parts and filters, cheapest I have found.
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where did you buy the belts? I want to make sure I'm dealing with the right place, prices are from $75 to $35 on the Internet
 
Russ

I get my Racor filters and Fleetguard filters from All Points Marine in Narragansett, RI. Good prices and they ship quickly.
 
There's a local Cummins truck engine dealer that I order parts from. I'm sure there's one in CT. I've bought Fleetguard filters from them for both my mains and my genny. I also buy coolant from them all at about half the price Marine Max charges. They don't carry racor filters.
 
Russ,

Congrats on the boat! We took delivery of our boat with 6CTA's a year ago. We have put 140 hours on the engines and other then a leaky hose and reg maintenance, the engines have been great. Very happy with them. The first year was a learning experience, but a good one. I've learned how to do all the maintenance. If you are not on BoatDiesel, I recommend it. Expecially the maintenance of aftercoolers on these engines.

I'm using 30 micro filters as well.

I've found an IR thermometer a good spare/tool to have on board. It's great for checking everything from the temp of the air conditioning to engine temp, exhaust temps, etc.
 
LMBoat said:
Russ,

Congrats on the boat! We took delivery of our boat with 6CTA's a year ago. We have put 140 hours on the engines and other then a leaky hose and reg maintenance, the engines have been great. Very happy with them. The first year was a learning experience, but a good one. I've learned how to do all the maintenance. If you are not on BoatDiesel, I recommend it. Expecially the maintenance of aftercoolers on these engines.

I'm using 30 micro filters as well.

I've found an IR thermometer a good spare/tool to have on board. It's great for checking everything from the temp of the air
conditioning to engine temp, exhaust temps, etc.
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Thanks, you do your own after cooler maintain? I am on BD but still learning. I have an IR temp gauge, it is very handy, thanks!
 
I got an estimate to change oil, filters, fuel filters and zincs, mains, trans and genny. Change all impellers and change the connections on the bottom drain on both turbos ($600 of bill). $2600.00. What do you think?
 
Russ Calasant said:
I got an estimate to change oil, filters, fuel filters and zincs, mains, trans and genny. Change all impellers and change the connections on the bottom drain on both turbos ($600 of bill). $2600.00. What do you think?
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It's nice to know how much I saved (minus the parts cost, of course).

BTW, all zincs are part of the 600hrs service. So, if you do it, make sure you don't pay twice for the job. I'd change the zincs while they're doing the service (that's actually what I did last year). Same goes for coolant with filters.

Oils, I don't know if you do yours now, but as you've learned by now you have reversa oil system that makes the oil change process a breeze. All you need is a new oil and filter. The rest is easy. If you have 3 valve reversa system, then you'll need to use portable pump to do the tranies.

If you think you might be in position to attempt to do some of this yourself, don't hesitate to ask for tips and I'll walk you through the steps and/or give you hand with some stuff.
 
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Alex F said:
It's nice to know how much I saved (minus the parts cost, of course).

BTW, all zincs are part of the 600hrs service. So, if you do it, make sure you don't pay twice for the job. I'd change the zincs while they're doing the service (that's actually what I did last year). Same goes for coolant with filters.

Oils, I don't know if you do yours now, but as you've learned by now you have reversa oil system that makes the oil change process a breeze. All you need is a new oil and filter. The rest is easy. If you have 3 valve reversa system, then you'll need to use portable pump to do the tranies.

If you think you might be in position to attempt to do some of this yourself, don't hesitate to ask for tips and I'll walk you through the steps and/or give you hand with some stuff.
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Alex,
For the tranny you can make a hose assembly from the Home Depot plumbing department, use the same type of fitting, disconnect one of the three supply lines on the back of the reversa. I plan on doing this in a few weeks.
 
Very true, Jon. Good idea, btw.

I have the Jabsco pump on the 3-4gal bucket and it's dedicated for my tranies.

I guess, it's worth to mention that some people prefer to refill the new oil using the reverso system, but I think it needs to be cleaned from trany oil before refilling the mains or generator. I always pour from the top (the old fashion way). This is why I buy 1gal oil cans instead of 5gal bucket.
 
Russ,

Yes, I did my aftercoolers. It was not too bad. Access on strb engine was a pain. This was the first time I tried it. I followed Tony's instructions at BD.

I've always done my own maintenance. It's definately cheaper, you know that the guy doing the work paid attention <most of the time>, you learn alot more about your boat, how it runs, what to look out for, and if you have troubles on a trip, you are better prepared to deal with it. Plus, you are not at the mercy of getting a good/local mechanic when you need one.

I just did my 100 maintentance. Here's what I did and parts cost:

Engine oil & Filters: $260
Trans oil change: $60
Checked seawater impellet <good shape, did not repace>: $0
Fuel Filter change <one Racor primary and secondary on engine: $60
Zincs changed: 6 for $40
Cleaned out heat exchanger: $20 for endcap gaskets
Cleaned airfilter: $0
Removed and cleaned aftercoolers: $150 for both
Adjusted valves: $0
Fanbelts replaced: $60

I would question a $1,000 to check/adjust the valves. I did in it about 3 hours and that was my first time. Next time, I'll be able to do it in less time.

It took most of the weekend, but total parts bill was less then $700.

FYI, I do use my Reverso to pump oil back into the engines/trannies, but as they use different oils, I drain/fill engine first, the drain/fill tranny. That way there is no "cross-contamination". I do not have enough room to fill the engines with oil from the top.

Coolant flush & fill is my next project.
 
[I got an estimate to change oil, filters, fuel filters and zincs, mains, trans and genny. Change all impellers and change the connections on the bottom drain on both turbos ($600 of bill). $2600.00. What do you think? /QUOTE]

Seems a bit high based on my experience:
Materials should be approximately $700
$200 12 gal of oil
$130 filters for Racors, oil, coolant and secondary fuel
$250 Impellers kits mains and genny
$100 zincs for mains, genny and trans

Subtracting the $600 for the turbo drains, would infer $1300 in labor for the oil and filter change.

I suspect your ER is similar to mine and aside from getting to the STBD water pump and outboard zincs everything else is pretty straight forward, and should not take more than 6 hours.

Good luck with your new boat, Art
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Crazy!! $500 for back up filters and fluids (oil, coolant and fuel additives) I think that's crazy. More so the fuel additives, that was most of it actually. Does everyone spend $300 in additives for 350 gallons of diesel? I used to spend $60 maybe on 225 gallons of gas but this is ridiculous. I cannot believe that all of that was necessary, I'm all for preventative maintenance but I asked some long time diesel owners at the yard and they laughed at me, I swear I heard "sucker" muttered under somebody's breath!
 
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