Celebrating America? Gag me with a spoon please!

JimG said:
If you're start crunching numbers... get them right!
How about 153 mile range at full charge and 40 minutes to get 80% charge.
https://www.bmwusa.com/vehicles/bmwi/i3/sedan/overview.html
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Actually, I was working off the info I gathered from Porsche owners on actual performance for the Taycan with the performance battery. I'm looking at replacing my P4S with one next year. I understand the EPA range numbers are based on a set of use assumptions that include worst case ambient temperature and driving speeds that in real drivers don't always experience. I've driven the car and the Turbo version (no, it does not have a turbo its just their model name) is absolutely the wildest ride I've experienced in years. In my opinion its a hotter car than the new 911 Turbo.

Charging stations seem to be the big issue. I'm not overly concerned about the range. My P4S has about a 600 mile range in sport mode, but bladder capacity for me these days is down to about 90 miles (or minutes) so driving more than a couple hours without a stop is unrealistic anyways. So a practical 200-300 mile range between charges does not seem to be an issue.
 
techmitch said:
One gallon an hour huh, sure.
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We have a 23KW whole house standby gen that will power our two story central AC'd all day at the equivalent rate of one GPH.
 
joeyleggz said:
It’s all smoke and mirrors no one‘s getting rid of fossil fuels anytime soon you can’t even go all electric because even electricity is produced by fossil fuels . It truly is all political jargon it’s just meant to tell people what they would like to hear for the moment it’s not realistic
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It depends on where you live. On the west coast of Canada we are net exporters of electricity with almost all of it produced at hydro dams or run-of-river power projects. The last thermal plant was shut down many years ago and it only provided for peak demand. The province is also constructing another massive dam that, when complete, will be producing even more export power. The hydro dams are in effect big batteries. When power is in demand, the reservoir is drawn down with all turbines working, then replenished during non-peak hours while some turbines are off-line. We have a two-step rate schedule here: base consumption is less than 7 cents per kWh. The power utility has substantial excess capacity now so even with 100% electrification we will have abundant power into the foreseeable future.
 
Yup ... BC is going green alright....


Site C will have more significant adverse environmental effects than any project ever examined in the history of Canada’s Environmental Assessment Act
By SARAH COX MAY 6, 2019
https://www.hilltimes.com/2019/05/06/198550/198550


And to your claim “Most Canadians hate the tar sands”, what do you think Canadians would say to this ??? ..... Crickets?? .. somebody has an agenda here:

Yes, anti-pipeline Vancouver really is North America’s largest exporter of coal
A city dead set against expanding petroleum exports is decidedly less irked about another type of fossil fuel....

Coal production is a mainstay of the province’s economy, generating billions of dollars in annual revenue and supporting thousands of well-paid jobs,” reads the website for B.C.’s Ministry of Energy, Mines and Petroleum Resources.

https://nationalpost.com/news/polit...ly-is-north-americas-largest-exporter-of-coal

And when the Liberal government of the province of Ontario decided to go green:

“Ontario’s McGuinty government also implemented a German-style green power and with equally disastrous results. Coal-fired power plants were shuttered and the planned expansion of nuclear plants cancelled. The government signed 25-year locked-in windmill and solar contracts at several times existing rates. Electricity prices more than doubled, taking Ontario from one of North America’s lowest-cost power jurisdictions to among the highest, with prices more than twice those in other provinces. As beleaguered homeowners struggled to pay their electricity bills, manufacturers decamped to low-cost states like Georgia and the Carolinas. Caterpillar, United Steel, Heinz, General Motors, Navistar, Kellogg’s, John Deere, Kraft Foods, Unilever and Bacardi closed some or all of their Ontario plants.

https://financialpost.com/opinion/g...ically-impossible-and-economically-disastrous


So, until Trudeau and the greenies stop coal mining and exports, they can hardly claim the high moral ground of extinguishing the monetary benefits and energy self sufficiency of oil.

Yes, there has to be a transition away from fossil fuels, but perhaps we can let market technology find the solutions rather than ham fisted government policies reacting to extreme special interest groups.
 
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Timeflys said:
Yup ... BC is going green alright....
Site C will have more significant adverse environmental effects than any project ever examined in the history of Canada’s Environmental Assessment Act
By SARAH COX MAY 6, 2019
https://www.hilltimes.com/2019/05/06/198550/198550
https://www.hilltimes.com/2019/05/06/198550/198550
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Says green activist Sarah Cox. Compared to coal, oil and gas generation, the "emissions" from a dam, over it's 70 year operational lifetime, are miniscule. The dam is controversial, mainly because the land is part of a First Nations claim. There is also the talk around it being agricultural. If you have ever been there, you would know the farms that far north struggle to get even one crop of hay off each year. The season is short. Compared to most renewables, hydro provides dispatchable power that is always available on demand, regardless of sunshine and wind. That makes it a vital supplement to those other forms of generation, even as they come onstream in the future. The major transmission lines are already in place because of the Peace dam and the Bennett dam further upstream. Yes, it will be very expensive but 20 years from now I suspect people will forget that, just as they have done with the many other major hydro facilities built in B.C. Compared to Ontario's experience with nuclear facilities, a dam seems environmentally and economically brilliant.
 
Timeflys said:
Yup ... BC is going green alright....
Site C will have more significant adverse environmental effects than any project ever examined in the history of Canada’s Environmental Assessment Act
By SARAH COX MAY 6, 2019
https://www.hilltimes.com/2019/05/06/198550/198550
And to your claim “Most Canadians hate the tar sands”, what do you think Canadians would say to this ??? ..... Crickets?? .. somebody has an agenda here:
Yes, anti-pipeline Vancouver really is North America’s largest exporter of coal
A city dead set against expanding petroleum exports is decidedly less irked about another type of fossil fuel....
Coal production is a mainstay of the province’s economy, generating billions of dollars in annual revenue and supporting thousands of well-paid jobs,” reads the website for B.C.’s Ministry of Energy, Mines and Petroleum Resources.

https://nationalpost.com/news/polit...ly-is-north-americas-largest-exporter-of-coal
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Research beyond the dramatic headline and then realize that most of the coal exported from the Robert's Bank Terminal, South of Vancouver, is not thermal coal but metallurgical coal, mined near Sparwood, B.C., amid the Rocky Mountains. Metallurgical coal is high quality carbon ore, a necessary component used in the manufacture of steel, stainless steel and in other industrial processes.
 
So there is a dirty coal and a clean coal???
Oil is necessary for transportation, heating, plastics, and a lot other essentials....
It appears that everything resource has an environmental cost.....nothing is free.
 
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Yes, the highest quality, with few impurities and almost pure carbon is anthracite. That is used in steel-making. Then there is bituminous, then cheap and "dirty" lignite.
 
Juliery said:
It depends on where you live. On the west coast of Canada we are net exporters of electricity with almost all of it produced at hydro dams or run-of-river power projects. The last thermal plant was shut down many years ago and it only provided for peak demand. The province is also constructing another massive dam that, when complete, will be producing even more export power. The hydro dams are in effect big batteries. When power is in demand, the reservoir is drawn down with all turbines working, then replenished during non-peak hours while some turbines are off-line. We have a two-step rate schedule here: base consumption is less than 7 cents per kWh. The power utility has substantial excess capacity now so even with 100% electrification we will have abundant power into the foreseeable future.
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What does Canada manufacture?
What contributions in the technology world have they made?
What is Canada’s claim to greatness?
What war have they won?
What countries have they liberated?
Name a Canadian automobile? Aircraft?

Please don’t lecture Americans on a single power plant w an extension chord to nowhere as your claim to ecological superiority.

Hockey is decent though.
 
El Capitan said:
What does Canada manufacture?
What contributions in the technology world have they made?
What is Canada’s claim to greatness?
What war have they won?
What countries have they liberated?
Name a Canadian automobile? Aircraft?

Please don’t lecture Americans on a single power plant w an extension chord to nowhere as your claim to ecological superiority.

Hockey is decent though.
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Bombardier
Linimar
Magna
Timmy’s
Largest rail car manufacturer in NA...can’t think of name
Stelco
Dofasco
Killer maple syrup
Crown Royal
A lot of Americans when walking Europe will put a Canada flag patch on their back pack
Basketball was invented in Canada as well as
Peanut butter
Pablum
Snowblower
Egg carton
Plexiglass
Caulking gun
Paint roller
Robertson screw
Garbage bag
Jolly jumper...yahooooo !
Easy off
Is that enough...I have a lot more
Oh damn... butter tarts and pepperettes !!!!!
Ju Jubes
Hockey
Lacrosse
Okay now I am getting tired
Insulin
Bromine
Ebola vaccine
5 pin bowling
56k modem
Atomic clock
IMAX
Macintosh apple the fruit...not the stolen name
Bagged milk.... this was a good one
The walkie talkie
Snowmobile
Sonar
Ice hockey
The Caesar ... Clamato juice :)
Kerosine
 
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El Capitan said:
What does Canada manufacture?
What contributions in the technology world have they made?
What is Canada’s claim to greatness?
What war have they won?
What countries have they liberated?
Name a Canadian automobile? Aircraft?

Please don’t lecture Americans on a single power plant w an extension chord to nowhere as your claim to ecological superiority.

Hockey is decent though.
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War of 1812
 
Blueone said:
Bombardier
Linimar
Magna
Timmy’s
Largest rail car manufacturer in NA...can’t think of name
Stelco
Dofasco
Killer maple syrup
Crown Royal
A lot of Americans when walking Europe will put a Canada flag patch on their back pack
Basketball was invented in Canada as well as
Peanut butter
Pablum
Snowblower
Egg carton
Plexiglass
Caulking gun
Paint roller
Robertson screw
Garbage bag
Jolly jumper...yahooooo !
Easy off
Is that enough...I have a lot more
Oh damn... butter tarts and pepperettes !!!!!
Ju Jubes
Hockey
Lacrosse
Okay now I am getting tired
Insulin
Bromine
Ebola vaccine
5 pin bowling
56k modem
Atomic clock
IMAX
Macintosh apple the fruit...not the stolen name
Bagged milk.... this was a good one
The walkie talkie
Snowmobile
Sonar
Ice hockey
The Caesar ... Clamato juice :)
Kerosine
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Wow, that's pretty good. I will add a few more:
  • We lost more Canadians in WWII per capital at the time than the US did. 42,000 Canadian soldiers died 0.38% of our population. The US was 407,000 and 0.32% of the population at that time.
  • The telephone
  • The smart phone
  • Alkaline batteries
  • Canola
  • The Bloody Caesar
  • the concept of global time zones
  • Trivial Pursuit
  • Yahtzee
  • The plastic garbage bag
  • Plexiglass
  • the push up bra
  • Electric wheelchair
  • luggage tags
  • pacemakers
  • Icewine
  • Beavertails
  • "Canadian bacon" - that's funny though, its not really Canadian. I think its British.
  • Poutine - mmmmm Poutine. Nothing better on a ski slope
  • Newfoundland screech
  • Donairs - (east coast of Canada version of a middle eastern food - try one at 3:00AM leaving the bar after last call and you will understand)
  • The rental waterheater (this one I really don't get - not rational at all)
 
El Capitan said:
What does Canada manufacture?
What contributions in the technology world have they made?
What is Canada’s claim to greatness?
What war have they won?
What countries have they liberated?
Name a Canadian automobile? Aircraft?

Please don’t lecture Americans on a single power plant w an extension chord to nowhere as your claim to ecological superiority.

Hockey is decent though.
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If you had the initiative to do a quick Google search you would have answered all your own questions. So lazy!

Your intention is obvious, though - to pretend exceptionalism where none exists. Canada manufactures cars with Honda, Toyota and others (G.M. is spending $billions setting up an EV factory in Ontario, Canada) engineered wood products, farm machinery and lots of aluminum among many other things. Canada never starts wars. But what war has the U.S. ever truly won, except with the contributions of allies? As for liberation, ask people in France, Belgium and the Netherlands about Canada (but never say you're an American.) The Avro Aero was a pioneering jet fighter. The DeLorean appears in the film Back to the Future. Many technological innovations began in Canada such as the telephone and BlackBerry smart phones. The Canadarm has been used on the space station for decades. But you wouldn't know that. Canada has made exceptional contributions in the arts but you wouldn't know about that, either. And Canadians will never embarrass themselves, beating their chests, bragging about how great they are.

Mass shootings? Not great. Your response to Covid has proven you are not that great. Actually, the worst. Trump as your President? Great?- Really? Was that your best and brightest? Violent protests and the attack on your Capital? Yeah, you get right out there and make America Great again. Start with yourself.
 
Blueone said:
Bombardier
Linimar
Magna
Timmy’s
Largest rail car manufacturer in NA...can’t think of name
Stelco
Dofasco
Killer maple syrup
Crown Royal
A lot of Americans when walking Europe will put a Canada flag patch on their back pack
Basketball was invented in Canada as well as
Peanut butter
Pablum
Snowblower
Egg carton
Plexiglass
Caulking gun
Paint roller
Robertson screw
Garbage bag
Jolly jumper...yahooooo !
Easy off
Is that enough...I have a lot more
Oh damn... butter tarts and pepperettes !!!!!
Ju Jubes
Hockey
Lacrosse
Okay now I am getting tired
Insulin
Bromine
Ebola vaccine
5 pin bowling
56k modem
Atomic clock
IMAX
Macintosh apple the fruit...not the stolen name
Bagged milk.... this was a good one
The walkie talkie
Snowmobile
Sonar
Ice hockey
The Caesar ... Clamato juice :)
Kerosine
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Wow, thanks.
Don’t forget, Canadians liberated Holland WW2, took in Americans 9-11, saved American Embassy workers in Iran.
 
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