420/44 DB Owners Club

Discussion in 'Sport Yachts/Yachts' started by Alex F, Jan 21, 2011.

  1. Tomco

    Tomco Active Member

    441
    Aug 16, 2012
    Ottawa, Ontario
    2004 420 Sedan Bridge
    GHS Hydraulic Lift
    11' Walker Bay, 30hp
    Cummins 6CTA 8.3M
    I'm thinking that this is a good idea! Could either just let the hose hang loose and connect to the extractor when needed or plumb it into the Reverco line for the engine drain (with a valve on each line).

    As for the 'last bit', given the volume of oil (around a gallon) vs the residual in a drain hose, I'm not too worried about a very small percentage of old oil going back in. For me, making it easier to do, I'll do it when I change the engine oil ... which will be more frequent than I'm doing it now!:)
     
  2. saopm

    saopm Active Member

    846
    Oct 6, 2010
    North Fork - Long Island, NY
    2005 420 Sedan Bridge
    Cummins 450
    The link below is the socket I used. I did the same with grinding the bevel. As for the screens, there was nothing to clean on mine, they looked brand new.

    ATLIN 36mm Oil Filter Socket - Fits Some Ford F250, BMW, Mini, Volvo, Audi, VW, Porsche Vehicles https://a.co/d/eJJQAL9
     
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  3. Mark.60

    Mark.60 Well-Known Member

    507
    Sep 6, 2020
    Westbrook Connecticut
    2007 44 sedan bridge
    Cummins qsc 500
    Has anyone purchased or fabricated a stainless bow protection plate ? I have a Rocna vulcan anchor with Mantus swivel and no matter how careful I am the point of the anchor sometimes hits the bow.
     
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  4. Bruce SEA 993

    Bruce SEA 993 Well-Known Member

    344
    Aug 17, 2016
    La Conner, WA
    Queen of Hearts
    2007 Sea Ray 44 Sedan Bridge
    (LG111) Apex RIB 25 HP
    Past: 2000 Sea Ray 380
    Cummins QSC500s
    I did a search, it seems there are a few generic ones available for small boats. I do not think they would work.

    I wonder if you could use some cardboard to mock up the size and angle you want and take the template to a sheet metal shop for them to put in a brake to bend. One issue may be that if the bow line is curved (I think it is), the sheet steel will not lay up against the bow. Fabricating a compound curve is more difficult. It may have to be made in two pieces and welded together, ground and polished. Far more work then a simple bend a curve in the middle.

    Sounds like, according to the prefab type ones available, that you clean and scuff the gel coat and epoxy the guard on.
     
  5. Irie308

    Irie308 Well-Known Member

    May 28, 2013
    CT
    2004 420 DB, GHS Hydraulic Lift
    Garmin 8600/Garmin 1222 plus
    AB Mares 10 VSX with 30 hp Tohatsu
    Cummins 450C 8.3 L Turbocharged
    Which Vulcan size did you go with?
     
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  6. Mark.60

    Mark.60 Well-Known Member

    507
    Sep 6, 2020
    Westbrook Connecticut
    2007 44 sedan bridge
    Cummins qsc 500
    I have the 44 lb. Best anchor I ever had, sleep like a baby
     
  7. my3sons

    my3sons Well-Known Member

    Feb 24, 2009
    Western NY (Lake Erie)
    2004 400DB, Onan 9 kw Generator, Highfield RIB,
    Cummins 6CTA M-3
    Which transmission did they switch to in late 2004 that only has a 250-hour oil interval?
     
  8. Irie308

    Irie308 Well-Known Member

    May 28, 2013
    CT
    2004 420 DB, GHS Hydraulic Lift
    Garmin 8600/Garmin 1222 plus
    AB Mares 10 VSX with 30 hp Tohatsu
    Cummins 450C 8.3 L Turbocharged
    Went with the Rocna 44 with the roll bar. I wanted the Vulcan but was afraid of what you’re describing.
     
  9. saopm

    saopm Active Member

    846
    Oct 6, 2010
    North Fork - Long Island, NY
    2005 420 Sedan Bridge
    Cummins 450
    I picked up my alternators from the rebuild shop today. It was what he said it was going to be, the brush holder assembly. He said the copper corrodes from the salty air which is why they tend to fail around the same time. Seems to be a $20 part. This sounds like what happened to Mark as well. I guess if one goes down you should have the other serviced as well.

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  10. Mark.60

    Mark.60 Well-Known Member

    507
    Sep 6, 2020
    Westbrook Connecticut
    2007 44 sedan bridge
    Cummins qsc 500
    I used the Mantus swivel, it’s like a ball and socket so the anchor can spin around easily as it’s being hauled up.
     
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  11. Bruce SEA 993

    Bruce SEA 993 Well-Known Member

    344
    Aug 17, 2016
    La Conner, WA
    Queen of Hearts
    2007 Sea Ray 44 Sedan Bridge
    (LG111) Apex RIB 25 HP
    Past: 2000 Sea Ray 380
    Cummins QSC500s
    What is your favorite engine room heater/oil pan heater?

    I do not have one and there is not any 110V in the ER yet. I will add a second dedicated outlet when I run the circuit for the water maker.

    I have heard good things about the oil pan heaters but I wonder if heating the entire ER might be better with all of the water pumps ect down there.

    On the 380 DA, there was an XTreme heater and it did the job. I am leaning that direction but am open to other ideas.

    Cheers!

    Edit: I should add that it never get very cold here...nobody pulls their boats out and very occasionally there is some ice on the surface. The water temp is 45 deg or so and the air temp is in the 20s but just for a few days.
     
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  12. Irie308

    Irie308 Well-Known Member

    May 28, 2013
    CT
    2004 420 DB, GHS Hydraulic Lift
    Garmin 8600/Garmin 1222 plus
    AB Mares 10 VSX with 30 hp Tohatsu
    Cummins 450C 8.3 L Turbocharged
    I use the wolverine oil pan heater from Seaboard. Oddly enough the one on my port motor died twice. Followed install instructions to the letter both units stopped working after a few months. The star one has been fine. I order a replacement from amazon this time. Will see how it goes. I installed a dedicated circuit and outlet in the bilge. Also use a smart Wi-Fi outlet adapter so that i can schedule on and off times as well as remotely turn them on and off.
     
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  13. my3sons

    my3sons Well-Known Member

    Feb 24, 2009
    Western NY (Lake Erie)
    2004 400DB, Onan 9 kw Generator, Highfield RIB,
    Cummins 6CTA M-3
    I have pan heaters and love them for keeping the motors warm and removing humidity in the e/r. If you’re looking for heat to keep things from freezing though, I don’t think they will do it. The engine blocks are warm to touch but other equipment in the e/r is not. I use the pan heaters in season and winterize off season.
     
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  14. bbwhitejr

    bbwhitejr Well-Known Member SILVER Sponsor

    Apr 14, 2013
    Lake Lanier GA
    2003 420DA, 6CTAs
    NA
    I have a 1000w BoatSafe heater and a 450watt XTreme heater. Your water temp gets somewhat lower than ours, but I only use the big one unless it is going way down for 2 days or more. Most years I don't think it ever comes on. Our water temp will get down into the mid-40s. I have never measured it, but I swear is seems like the ER on my 420DA has more cubic feet than when we had the 44DB....just my 4).02...

    Bennett
     
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  15. Irie308

    Irie308 Well-Known Member

    May 28, 2013
    CT
    2004 420 DB, GHS Hydraulic Lift
    Garmin 8600/Garmin 1222 plus
    AB Mares 10 VSX with 30 hp Tohatsu
    Cummins 450C 8.3 L Turbocharged
    I use he same swivel. When the anchor is up how much far is it from the hull?
     
  16. Bob Coleman

    Bob Coleman New Member

    11
    Apr 26, 2021
    2004 420 Sedan Bridge
    480 Cummins
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    Any idea where the black rubber gasket (?) goes?
     
  17. bbwhitejr

    bbwhitejr Well-Known Member SILVER Sponsor

    Apr 14, 2013
    Lake Lanier GA
    2003 420DA, 6CTAs
    NA
    Those are your fuel filters. They go on the threaded nipple before you screw the filters on. Make sure you remove the old ones.

    Bennett
     
  18. Bob Coleman

    Bob Coleman New Member

    11
    Apr 26, 2021
    2004 420 Sedan Bridge
    480 Cummins
    What manual is your picture of? Thanks!
     
  19. saopm

    saopm Active Member

    846
    Oct 6, 2010
    North Fork - Long Island, NY
    2005 420 Sedan Bridge
    Cummins 450
    The book came with the boat in the Sea Ray Bag.
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  20. Mark.60

    Mark.60 Well-Known Member

    507
    Sep 6, 2020
    Westbrook Connecticut
    2007 44 sedan bridge
    Cummins qsc 500
    Sorry for the late response I’m in Grand Cayman,
    The tip of the anchor is about 8” from the bow
     

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