220 DA thread

I second that. One of the best modifications you can do is to install a two-battery setup for your boat. You'll spend money getting a jumpstarter so you might as well look into the two-battery setup instead.

You bought an overnighter. Nothing beats the freedom of knowing that you can camp on the water running your cabin lights or whatever and then the next morning switching over to the other battery to start the engine with no worry of having run your only battery down.

My wife and I have spent wonderful nights relaxing anchored by a waterfall and falling asleep in the gently rocking boat with the waterfall providing soothing sleep-music in the background. I'd never be able to sleep soundly if I had one battery and the back of my mind was always thinking "what if the anchor light runs our battery down?" It's never a concern - we've always got another battery, and we don't have to worry about jumpstarting or other related stressful fixit drama the next morning when we awake on the boat.

To address your other observation; yes, all those years you rode on all of your friend's boats for a good time and didn't think much of it, once I bought this thing I realized just how much I had cost them. You'll invite many of your friends and they will all have a great time on your boat and I guarantee you that none of them will be realizing that you're spending over a dollar a minute in fuel/ insurance/ maintenance/ etc entertaining them. They are not being disrespectful or inconsiderate; they simply don't realize how much it's costing you. It's a wierd thing you need to get used to as a boat owner. The same close friend that would absolutely refuse to even think of allowing you to buy their eight dollar buffet at Ryans restaurant won't give a second thought to expecting you to burn a hundred dollar bill in fuel cruising them around your local lake - not to mention the other costs associated with just owning the boat before you even get it to the ramp for them to board onto it which double that fuel cost.

Owning a boat is NOT cheap and unless you've walked in those moccasins you have no idea what a great favor your boatowner friend is providing by inviting you along. I cannot make up for past slights to those that I did not adequately compensate for their generosity at the time when they invited me on their boat, but I can try to pass along the favor given to me - to the next generation of boat owners who don't know yet that they will be boat owners in their own future. :smt001
 
You are so right

I do have a two battery system. Both batteries died--because of the marina that left them on all winter. But--I will deal with that later. I am glad to hear that once I get them charged up again--I should have to worry about having a jump box.

I never thought I would feel so inexperienced at boating. I love my boat. I love the water. I feel that I have spent most of my life on the water. BUT-this is a new experience. I have learned how to wax, polish, custom fit a seat. I am a whole new person. I love the advise. Please keep it coming. I need it. My husband just spent the last four hours on the boat charging it back up. It did start. But now the bilge won't work. So if it doesn't sink--I will still be on this thread.

If it sinks--I am so buying a newer model.
 
Oops..... sorry, I just re-read your post and you did indeed write that "both" of your batteries were dead. Oh well, I turn 50 today so maybe I'm getting worse at noticing details - I gotta pay more attention to what the post actually says before running my mouth off :smt001
 
Re: Waxed her today

Marckmann said:
Also--I purchased a swim platform from swimplatforms.com---I will post pictures after I get it installed.
Wendy

Wendy, I did not realize what a family affair you have going working on the boat there. I can understand the tractor-boat issue. Should have both though!

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I have a quote request in to swimplatforms.com, but just sent it off today. I am anxious to see what they say about price and when it could be done. Sounds like they are booked out a ways. That might help with the 'price' issue and my budget! :cool:

Post some pictures if you can of your swim platform, and how it goes on.
 
John Deere--excellent. That is what we also have.

The swim platform will arrive over Memorial weekend. I will post after installation

The 220 platform is about 1500.00 plus shipping.
 
Marckmann, you prompted me to order one too. With some help from others, such as MLauman and GG. Mine is due in about 8 weeks. The swim platform, that is. I am not planning on anything else being due! :smt018

May have to spend more on the boat, did a compression check today, and have one cylinder about 25% low. Appears to be upper end, but I think it is not an urgent problem.
 
Anyone with a 220DA... Do you have the Norcold TekII fridge? I need a model and serial number, mine is missing and I need a new door seal gasket. Norcold won't talk to me without the numbers...
 
yep same fridge.....SN - LLN1745 Model - DE251E
 
To those with the swim platforms..... I've thought of getting one too, but after taking a close look at some on actual boats it looks like if I installed one on mine it would dig in deep every time I raised the bow getting it on plane. I have a hard time getting on plane as it is with a full load and several adults aboard and cannot help but wonder the drag effect of the back of that platform digging down into the water when I first hit the throttle and the bow raises up.

Does anyone have any experience or insight into this possibility?
 
Quint... THANKS!!!!

GJarrett, I don't think the swim platform would be a factor. I'd bet it's a few inches away from the water.
 
Gerald,

I have a platform on order, but don't have it yet for my 270. I have the same general issue you have regarding getting on plane with a full load. I am sure hoping that the platform is designed so it does not drag in the water. I think that will be the case.

However, it will add some weight as far to the rear on your boat as you can get. Maybe about 120 lb. This will shift the center of gravity of your boat towards the rear slightly, making it harder to get on plane. The effect will likely be the same as a 100lb person standing on the rear of the boat.

I find that when I am loaded heavy, I need the engine trim full down, and also the tabs full down when starting out. At about 18 - 20 mph, I start retracting tabs and trimming up. I have also recently switched from my 23 inch pitch prop to my spare, which is a 21 inch pitch. That also helps.
 
Let me know your experiences once you install the platform. The ones I saw installed did have a slight upward tilt of a few degrees toward the rear but evenso there was only a few inches clearance which seem sure to plant down onto the water once the bow raises. Maybe they act like a huge trim tab :grin:
 
Gerald, I think the bow does not start to raise until you have a little bit of speed, and then the stern is also start to raise and clear water behind it. But I will let you know. I am about 8 weeks out on delivery right now.

I think you could call the company and ask about this too. Or has been mentioned elsewhere, have everyone lean forward on takeoff!

I have been more concerned about leverage on it from waves coming in to the backside of the boat. I've taken water inside the cockpit, rear lower section, from just a small boat handling boo boo in light chop. Got passengers feet wet. But I did get my hat back. :thumbsup:
 
GJarrett said:
To those with the swim platforms..... I've thought of getting one too, but after taking a close look at some on actual boats it looks like if I installed one on mine it would dig in deep every time I raised the bow getting it on plane. I have a hard time getting on plane as it is with a full load and several adults aboard and cannot help but wonder the drag effect of the back of that platform digging down into the water when I first hit the throttle and the bow raises up.

Does anyone have any experience or insight into this possibility?

On my 270 ... I had the same concern before I got mine - it seems to sit very close to the water. In fact, I was out in a raft-up yesterday and had newer 270's on either side of me which have the factory swim platforms. My platform was easily 5-6 inches closer to the water than theirs.
But to answer the original question - it does not appear to dig into the water at any time while getting on plane. I have not noticed any difference in the performance or plane time on my boat since I installed it.
 
4 sisters--all married (sorry)

I should have my platform within the month--I will let you know after it is installed. I assume it won't drag--I don't need anymore drag.
 
I have two quick questions--What pitch do you have on your prop? and are you satisfied?

Question two--do any of you have fender holders on the bow of your boat? Do you recommend them?

':smt038'***By the way***I love this website---I can ask all sorts of questions and hopefully not make stupid mistakes.****You don't know how helpful this has been*****':smt038'
 
I forget my prop pitch...got it wrote down somewhere....I had the fender holders up on the bow rail but the fenders were in my line of site....it bugged me so I removed them.
 
I just put on a 15x16 four blade. Going in the water on Saturday, so I'll see how it is. The old prop was a 15x17 3 blade. I was happy with the old one, the new one should perform better.

One other thing I did was bend the arm on the carb to keep it from kicking in the secondaries on the 4 bbl. I can get on plane by 2700 and then trim up and gain another 7 to 800 rpm. Made a big difference in fuel comsumption.

Before this, I could hear the secondaries opening at the 2700 rpm range. If I backed off I would slowly loose being on plane.
 
Got the first run in today with the new prop, it's really nice, better response coming into the dock also.

Got on plane much quicker and can keep it there at lower rpm's.

It's a Quicksilver Diamond 4.
 

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