I think we agree on this.
What did you think I meant by my post?
MM
The same.
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I think we agree on this.
What did you think I meant by my post?
MM
What are you hiding on your phone that is so important that you don't want anyone on the planet to know about? How did a software feature turn into an "Absolute Right granted by the Constitution".....that is simply an absurd argument.
The FBI isn't going to find anything major on this phone, and they know it. They are playing the long game. They are using this incident to set the precedent so that all iphones can be compromised in the future.
If one doesn't assert their rights, they are forfeited. It has nothing to do with hiding anything. It's about maintaining one's privacy and security. This quote from Benjamin Franklin applies directly to this situation "Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety."
What are you hiding on your phone that is so important that you don't want anyone on the planet to know about?
Gentlemen, I respectfully disagree. Apple put themselves on a collision course with the Feds when they released IOS 8. In my opinion they should have never created or turned on the "self-destruct" feature. By doing so they have divided the population into two groups: ones that quote Benjamin Franklin and the others that support law enforcement and want to use every tool available to put bad guys away. You can't have it both ways in a country based on laws. I don't care who looks at my iphone.....I stopped keeping anything important on it when I got married for the second time.
I really wanted to stay out of this one, and I'm happy many of you here understand the long term ramifications of what's at stake... PlayDate, you list DC as home, so I don't know what involvement you've had "inside the beltway" and I'm not going to ask, share if you'd like...I've spent a fair amount of my life in tech and dealing with "inside the beltway"...That's why now I'm on an island with my feet up trying to avoid all this...
Truth is, as you all know, the world is a messed up place...Conflicts and unrest all over, and hacking by State Actors and agencies that is unbelievable in scope...I'm going to keep this real short and not bore you... But, Tim Cook isn't an "idiot", nor is the head of Google, or The EFF... In fact, these guys and other White Hats understand what it means to open Pandora's Box...It isn't that we don't recognize the value to law enforcement to be all knowing and all seeing, it's that we understand the the dangers outweigh the benefit...
Perhaps when I make it back up that way we can discuss over a cocktail....Until then, let's hope what this country was founded on doesn't get chipped away at even further....
One Quick Edit - Just keep in mind, encryption is here to stay...It will get stronger for the VNSA, and perhaps weaker for the rest of us...Which just means more DBase hacked and more of your info in the wrong hands.
Right now the govt can track your car if it wants to, see where ,how fast and how far you drove, where you purchased goods and gas. They can track your phone, your e-z-pass ,hell they have even put trackers under your car.
Privacy is what YOU make of it! (For the life of me I cannot understand the attraction of FaceBook.)
I really wanted to stay out of this one, and I'm happy many of you here understand the long term ramifications of what's at stake... PlayDate, you list DC as home, so I don't know what involvement you've had "inside the beltway" and I'm not going to ask, share if you'd like...I've spent a fair amount of my life in tech and dealing with "inside the beltway"...That's why now I'm on an island with my feet up trying to avoid all this...
Truth is, as you all know, the world is a messed up place...Conflicts and unrest all over, and hacking by State Actors and agencies that is unbelievable in scope...I'm going to keep this real short and not bore you... But, Tim Cook isn't an "idiot", nor is the head of Google, or The EFF... In fact, these guys and other White Hats understand what it means to open Pandora's Box...It isn't that we don't recognize the value to law enforcement to be all knowing and all seeing, it's that we understand the the dangers outweigh the benefit...
Perhaps when I make it back up that way we can discuss over a cocktail....Until then, let's hope what this country was founded on doesn't get chipped away at even further....
One Quick Edit - Just keep in mind, encryption is here to stay...It will get stronger for the VNSA, and perhaps weaker for the rest of us...Which just means more DBase hacked and more of your info in the wrong hands.
CSR isn't much different than FaceBook.
That said, no developer likes where Apple has gone in restricting the iphone. They have created a walled garden around IOS replete with claymore mines. As a result, they control the entire infrastructure which is seriously problematic. No developer wants to talk about it for fear that Apple will shut them down. That arrogance has led them to where they are now. I think Apple has great products but this issue is a major distraction for them.