Grill Pedestal Install

GG
Look at my original post and the last picture shows the magma stainless base mounted to the bottom of my Solaire Grill drip pan.
Above that is the Magma Round adaptor that goes on top on the pedestal.
Good Luck

Dan
 
What you could do GG is make a stainless rectangular piece that has the space for the propane tube on one side offset from the other side where the black cap and white starboard mount is.
 
Nehalennia said:
I assume your describing trying to mount the kettle style to the Pedestal. It would be difficult because the propane tube feeds through the threaded pipe at the bottom.
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If the rectangular aluminum "tube block" was tall enough and had a center hole to fit the propane tube, it might still work. Maybe it will take something more along the lines of a 4x4 (3.5"x3.5") tubing to fit the propane feed assemply?
 
Daniel P Thomas said:
GG
Look at my original post and the last picture shows the magma stainless base mounted to the bottom of my Solaire Grill drip pan.
Above that is the Magma Round adaptor that goes on top on the pedestal.
Good Luck

Dan
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Duh!! Thanks Dan, I completely missed that. From what I see, it looks like the Magma Round Adaptor fits either into or over the pedestal tube itself and then has a square base plate mounted to it to allow mounting of the Magma stainless base for the grill, correct? If so, does the round adaptor come with the pedestal, or is it a separate part altogether?
 
Round adaptor comes with pedestal kit, along with the smaller retangular piece that mounts to Magma base.
My Solaire base is much larger as it fit onto a tripod.
I took the adaptor off of it and mounted the Magma Stainless piece to it.
Saved the original for 'apres boating season.'
Quick switchout.
Dan
 
Nehalennia said:
I assume your describing trying to mount the kettle style to the Pedestal. It would be difficult because the propane tube feeds through the threaded pipe at the bottom.
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Ah, right, that would certainly complicate it. I no longer have a kettle, just the Newport and the new pedestal. A box with enough clearance for the propane gear would certainly be possible. The regular mount for the kettle uses an L bracket, the box would have to be tall enough to clear the tubing (or have a hole for it) and thin enough to allow using the same sort of nut to secure it. Not impossible though.

Meanwhile, here's a link to the PDF for the pedestal: http://www.magmaproducts.com/Produc...atalina_mounts/521G/T10-185/T10-185_instr.pdf

And to the parts page: http://magmaproducts.com/shopsite_sc/store/html/page230.html

It would appear the round adapter, #2 in the PDF, can be purchased separately for $14.95.
 
gengiant said:
Hummmm... that got me thinking. A local metal supply shop sells rectangular heavy gage aluminum tubing (roughly 2"x4" if memory serves). I might be able to rig a 'heat separator' from that? I'll have to take a look at the kettle grill to see what its bottom plate looks like. Anyone here care to post a picture of the top of the pedestal, i.e. the cap that wkearney99 is refering to?
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You'd have to eye up how much of a bend the tubing requires, along with clearance for it's propane tank. Just make sure nothing ends up rubbing against the propane tube as you don't want to introduce any added risks of leaks.

Sorry, I didn't take pictures of the parts as I was installing it. The cap is shown in the PDF and parts page links I posted before. They're both about 3 to 4" square. Not entirely sure why they have two parts here. Possibly due to versatility issues, durability, stress or something. They use carriage bolts to drop through the grill base to an adapter plate, which in turn uses regular (all stainless of course) bolts to attach to the cap. So if you wanted to be 'the same' you'd attach your mount to the adapter and then to the cap.
 
Ok, I went a bit different route....

The dealer installed the pedestal mount on the rear swim platform. It is all the way to port and the swim ladder is on the Starboard corner so both can be in use at once.

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Included with the mount was the 2" pipe. I thought I would use the existing mount which was the 2 poles at the bottom that fit into the receiver on the transom of the last boat. I would buy/make a table top to drill and mount the grill and be done.

I wanted teak so that it would look nice and hold up to the environment but it was cost prohibitive to find a solid top, so I went with a slatted tray, a table mount from an RV I used to own and some stainless hardware from West Marine.

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Then utilizing the hardware and positioning the table mount, I bolted it to the tray through the slats.

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I took off all the mounting gear that was on there and the holes lined up nicely with the grill mounting points. I used wingnuts to attach the gril so that it could be separated from the tray top. It is mounted a bit to one end of the top in the photo, but it is completely adjustable as I am only using the slats and not drilled holes.

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Now having lost MANY things overboard, I am paranoid about things not floating or secured. So I have a safety strap that attaches to the handle of the tray and secures the top to one of the rear cleats.

Also note the orange "noodle" in the first picture. When I first started this I was absolutely certain that some how, some way I would be setting up or taking down the grill and lose the damn leg overboard. So I had the crazy idea of using some spray foam on the inside of the leg to trap air and allow the leg to float. While trying to figure this out, I spied one of the new "noodles" I had bought for the season. After much twisting and jamming it finally slid throught the leg. Now it floats very nicely.
 
Thanks Bill and Todd! I think mounting the old kettle grill to the post is doable! Before I order the post though, I am going to have to source that heavy gage aluminum box tube I'll need to mount between the post and the grill base. I think I can do that locally. I will then need to see, if I can take the base of the Magma kettle apart so that I can A) drill holes in it to mount it to the box tube, and B) to unscrew the propane feed tube. Theoretically, this should all be possible. Now to find the time to do all this before our San Juan trip in July! (~;
 
I don't think you'd have to drill anything into the bottom of the kettle. If I recall correctly, the propane tube is threaded and has a nut that holds it in place. Just use that same setup. Make the hole in the box the same size as the one in the bottom of the kettle. Bring the tube up through that hole and secure it normally. This would depend on the box being thin enough not to impede using the tube in it's regular form. Since the standard kettle mounting arms fit between the bottom of the kettle and the tube it's reasonable to think the idea would work. PROVIDED the thickness of the box is appropriate. Otherwise you'd still have to make a hole in the box to accommodate the propane tube and then use your idea. I'd use bolts not screws as you really don't want this working loose over time.

But then again since I no longer use (or have) a kettle I'll defer to the advice of others if they have suggestions otherwise.

When installing the base it really requires assistance unless you can easily reach both sides of the bolts holding down the base. It's a pretty simple job. The only part of the instructions that aren't entirely clear is the alignment of the base. They talk about drilling one hole and then mounting the grill before drilling the rest. They do this because the cap has only one position. If you want the grill 'square' then you have to use the position of the base on the deck as your only means of adjustment. This can only be done with the grill on it and the pedestal screwed into the base. So you get one hole through, move it around until it's just right and then drill the remaining holes. I point this out NOW because while it won't matter with the ROUND grill you have presently, it will make a difference if/when you get a rectangular one later on. It might be a good idea to temporarily use a scrap of wood to align the pedestal properly. Use that to 'eye up' how the grill would actually fit. Better to get it right now than to have the grill crooked later.
 
Very nice install. I can see the crowd gathering around that swim platform when the grill fires-up. As an aside, I was surprised that you had enough room in the ER to find a good storage location. The 280's ER is packed-in tight if you have a genset. The only available space is above the water tank which is really the empty base of the aft-facing seat above. Designers should have made better use of the space with a hatch door in the base of the seat and enclosed space for storage.
 
gengiant said:
Thanks Bill and Todd! I think mounting the old kettle grill to the post is doable! Before I order the post though, I am going to have to source that heavy gage aluminum box tube I'll need to mount between the post and the grill base. I think I can do that locally. I will then need to see, if I can take the base of the Magma kettle apart so that I can A) drill holes in it to mount it to the box tube, and B) to unscrew the propane feed tube. Theoretically, this should all be possible. Now to find the time to do all this before our San Juan trip in July! (~;
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GG,
I drew this up. It should do exactly what you need with out the box. It really only needs to be about 4 1/2" x 6 to 8"
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If it's the same thickness as "L" bracket that the Kettle normally attaches to the rod, it will mimic that attachment.
The fuel tube can go right through there.

Then on the Left side you can attach the pedestal top mount.
The Grill will sit slightly to one side, but the pedestal is sturdy and it's not that much weight.
This way the propane tank is hanging just as it would from the Kettle and your mount can stow with the entire bracket still attached.
 
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We have an arrangement similar to yours, DragonAnchor. It works well for our Force 10.
 

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I received an early Father's Day present, which is a Magma Catalina Grill. I have searched all over the boat for a place to mount it on a 2007 260DA. Needless to say it will probably have to go on the starboard side of the swim deck. I have the camper enclosures which using the rod is out of the question. I have used the search feature on the site and didn't find what I was looking for. I had a couple of questions on putting the pedestal mount on the swim deck.

1.) Obviously through the deck bolting would be best. How thick is the swim deck? The boat is slipped and will have to be hauled out. I drop enough stuff when I am on solid ground.

2.) Can it be screwed to the swim deck and sealed?

3.) Do I need to use 5200 or 4200?

I am scared to death to drill that first hole in the boat:smt100! Tried the bigger boat route to fit the grill, but that didn't work.

Any advice would be greatly appreciated.
 
Nehalennia said:
GG,
I drew this up. It should do exactly what you need with out the box. It really only needs to be about 4 1/2" x 6 to 8"
GrillBase.jpg

If it's the same thickness as "L" bracket that the Kettle normally attaches to the rod, it will mimic that attachment.
The fuel tube can go right through there.

Then on the Left side you can attach the pedestal top mount.
The Grill will sit slightly to one side, but the pedestal is sturdy and it's not that much weight.
This way the propane tank is hanging just as it would from the Kettle and your mount can stow with the entire bracket still attached.
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Hi Todd,

I am pretty clear on how said bracket would mount to the post and how the kettle would sit on the extended end with the propane feeding tube sticking through the hole. What would keep the kettle attached to the mounting plate?

Though I think that such a plate mount would work, given that I am very tall, I am going to pursue the "box mount" first, as this would conceivably raise the kettle another 3-4 inches. Lastly, rather than those little "throw-away" propane bottles, we've switched to a small refillable cylinder. I think it might be 1.5 gallons or something like that. With a 5-foot hose to connect it to the bbq, this tank can sit pretty much anywhere it wants in proximity to the grill. We like the fact that this tank is easily refillable and stores neatly underneath the aft-facing seat.

Btw., Bill, thanks for your foresight regarding a potential future upgrade to the rectangular style grill. Though I probably wouldn't have thought about it during the install of the post for my current kettle grill, an upgrade may definitly be in my future.

Cheers!
 
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Those little bottles go a long way. When used for weekend dinners I've had a small bottle last most of the summer. That and the less you store, the less you risk. A small bottle goes right onto the grill. Whereas a hose has to be stowed and periodically checked for leaks, as does the bottle. But to each his own.

Just be sure to stow that bottle properly, in a locker that's vented over the side. Propane, being heavier than air, will settle and you do not want it settling down into the cabin or engine compartment.

As for attaching the base, 5200 is generally considered "permanent". As in, it will rip up gelcoat before it gives way. There are solvents and methods that can be used to remove it, but even then it's a hassle. 4000 is nearly as strong but without the degree of hassles to remove. And since you're making a good mechanical fit using bolts there's really no need for excessive adhesives. You could even get away with caulk (suitable for outdoor use, of course). You're basically only trying to eliminate risk of water intrusion. I went with 4000 when installing mine. The underside of the base has a number of edges, I just followed them with the 4000. Just take care not to gum up the release cam.

The only thing that bugs me about the pedestal is the open area it leaves when the column is not installed. I'd like to find a plug of some sort to help prevent water and gunk from pooling up in there.
 
bw76273 said:
I received an early Father's Day present, which is a Magma Catalina Grill. I have searched all over the boat for a place to mount it on a 2007 260DA. Needless to say it will probably have to go on the starboard side of the swim deck. I have the camper enclosures which using the rod is out of the question. I have used the search feature on the site and didn't find what I was looking for. I had a couple of questions on putting the pedestal mount on the swim deck.

1.) Obviously through the deck bolting would be best. How thick is the swim deck? The boat is slipped and will have to be hauled out. I drop enough stuff when I am on solid ground.

2.) Can it be screwed to the swim deck and sealed?

3.) Do I need to use 5200 or 4200?

I am scared to death to drill that first hole in the boat:smt100! Tried the bigger boat route to fit the grill, but that didn't work.

Any advice would be greatly appreciated.
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Were you planning on mounting it under the swimstep hatch?
gengiant said:
Hi Todd,

I am pretty clear on how said bracket would mount to the post and how the kettle would sit on the extended end with the propane feeding tube sticking through the hole. What would keep the kettle attached to the mounting plate?

Though I think that such a plate mount would work, given that I am very tall, I am going to pursue the "box mount" first, as this would conceivably raise the kettle another 3-4 inches. Lastly, rather than those little "throw-away" propane bottles, we've switched to a small refillable cylinder. I think it might be 1.5 gallons or something like that. With a 5-foot hose to connect it to the bbq, this tank can sit pretty much anywhere it wants in proximity to the grill. We like the fact that this tank is easily refillable and stores neatly underneath the aft-facing seat.

Btw., Bill, thanks for your foresight regarding a potential future upgrade to the rectangular style grill. Though I probably wouldn't have thought about it during the install of the post for my current kettle grill, an upgrade may definitly be in my future.

Cheers!
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I thought about the bigger tank too. Keep in mind you still will have to attach the tank to the tube.

Also, yes the idea was to attached the tube for yours where you see the large hole and the four holes would mount to the pedestal base.
The box would also work well with a U-shaped notch for your tube(that didn't sound right)
 
Bill,

I hear you regarding the risk of storing propane in the boat. It is something I've been aware. As to those little bottles, we used them the first season we got the grill. Our experience was that they didn't last all that long. I may have to re-think this concept for short weekend trips, but for our 2-week trip through the San Juans, I think I'll keep the larger tank.
 
Ok, I just ordered the pedestal and mounting kit. Can't wait to figure out how to mount my kettle grill to it. It'll be nice to have the grill out aft on the swim step rather than over the side where it tends to be in the way during a raft-up.
 
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