Yeah, yeah, yeah... it looks like a sneaker

Converse48

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Nov 20, 2006
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Chesapeake Bay
Boat Info
2010 McKinna 57 Pilothouse
Engines
QSM-11
So... I sold Festivus, my 2007 44DB last fall. I didn't really want to, but let's just say that "marital difficulties" were a major contributing factor. Nonetheless, the search for the next boat began before the ink was dry on the contract.

Criteria:
  • Under 50' (not a MUST, but I really wanted that so I could keep my current slip)
  • Three staterooms; my two kids are 14/12 boy and girl, we virtually live aboard so I wanted them to have separate staterooms
  • Access to the water for my 80 pound dog (no ladders to the water!)
  • An air conditioned helm station
  • Further down the depreciation curve than my 2007 44DB, ideally ten years old or more.
  • The ability to cruise at a minimum of twenty knots
  • CAT 3196s need not apply
  • Detroit 2 cycle diesels need not apply

I looked at many, many boats up and down the eastern seaboard and I kept coming back to the 2002 480MY sitting in the parking lot of my marina for the winter. I know the owner and I knew that he wanted out since his kids are older and they just don't get the use out of the boat. He and I had discussed a possible deal in broad terms over the past summer. For a whole host of reasons, I'm not going to get into the particulars, but let's just say that we were able to work out a deal that is a true win/win.

So, pending sea trial and Cummins inspection of the QSM-11s, I will be the proud captain of a 480MY!

So let the fun begin:

1) "It looks like a sneaker" I'm not going to deny that. But have you SEEN that aft cabin? Also, the back deck/helm (which is fully air-conditioned) is quite a bit more Dancer-like (i.e. social) than that on a DB. Ok, so it's eight feet off the water instead of three. You can't have everything. And I once described this as the ugliest boat ever made, but then I was reminded about the Carver mariner series, and the Silverton motor yachts. So it's not the ugliest, but it is ugly. Get over it. I have.

2) "It's a pig in 2-3' beam seas and isn't as good of a sea boat as a 54' Viking" Probably true, I certainly can't doubt the source (Frank W), but up in the cozy confines of the upper Chesapeake Bay for me to see 2'-3' beam seas I would need to be tooling about in a named storm. Perhaps that's why the per-capita count of MYs is much higher on the Sassafras River than in most places. So my water isn't "manly"? Boo hoo. I'll take the beautiful, winding, deep, tree-lined, sandy-bottomed, warm, salt-free Sassafras over any other place on the Bay. True, I will probably see some "real seas" when I come to Atlantic City in July (!) and when I do, I will just hold on for dear life and just smile to myself about that aft cabin... have you seen that aft cabin? :)

3) "To replace the engines you need to cut a hole in the side of the boat" Also seems to be true; I can't imagine weaseling a QSM-11 through that cockpit door. So if the engines need to be rebuilt at some point we will cross that bridge when we get to it. In the meantime, the engine room is actually quite roomy as far as access to everything. Also, I really wanted a boat with QSM-11s. I had nothing but success with my QSCs and I've heard/read nothing but good things about QSMs.

So, that's my story and I'm sticking to it.

Fire away!
 
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So... I sold Festivus, my 2007 44DB last fall. I didn't really want to, but let's just say that "marital difficulties" were a major contributing factor. Nonetheless, the search for the next boat began before the ink was dry on the contract.

Sorry to hear that, I hope everything works out for you.
 
Never really cared for the styling much, but they have really grown on me. That being said, the only persons opinion that matters is yours! Forget about what anyone else says about it. Good luck and hope it all goes smooth for you!


Shaun
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Nice to see you couldn't "kick" the habit!! Sorry, I couldn't resist! Best of luck.....on all fronts!
 
Congrats on the impending purchase! To speak to your 3 points:

1. I think the 480MY is easier on the eyes than the 390MY for some reason. Just so you know, NEVER raft up with another 390MY or 480MY since the hard tops will bang against each other when you get waked.
2. I remember Franks discussion about the beam seas bothering this boat but I have a friend with a 560DB that helped run a 480MY up the coast from Mexico and he told me the boat handled the seas wonderfully. I imagine that you can tack to keep the swells off of your beam most of the time.
3. I had heard that to replace the blocks you empty the cabin, cut a hole through the top and remove straight up. This may be less invasive than cutting a hole that large through the side of the boat but chances are, you will never be challenged with this issue.

All of that being said, the look of the boat will grow on you. The space in the boat is amazing and that can trump any shortcomings. That bad boy can throw one hell of a wake too!
 
Whenever I've seen these on the water I look to see if any of them are called "Glass Slipper" - seems appropriate based on the sneaker shape and fiberglass construction...
 
Congrats Tim. Name it the "Air Armand"
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If you and the family like the boat, then that's what counts. Good luck with the purchase.

Mark
 
I have no issue with the styling and think it's a uniquely-designed motoryacht that can be a great match for certain boating areas and lifestyles. The sheer size and layout of the interior is hard to beat. We jokingly call them "the high top with a hard top" but if you've been in one, it opens your eyes wide. So, congratulations and best of luck with her (but I'll stick with my sedan bridge with the crappy 3196s).
 
(but I'll stick with my sedan bridge with the crappy 3196s).
No offense intended, I've just read too many scary things about the 3196. I came very close to buying an Ocean 48 SS with 3196s in it, and the 480DB with 3196s were in my price range too. You will see a big difference in price between the QSM powered 480s and the 3196 versions. Yes, I know the QSM ones are newer, but the gap is pretty significant.

For the record, if I could have gotten a QSM powered 480 for a similar deal as this 480MY (or even close), I would have gone that way.
 
Nice. The two I've seen didn't have lifts. Does yours? What about a lazarette or is it an " open" engine room?
No lift. :-( But it does have a davit system and a nice center console dinghy. But the system is not sufficient to carry a Jet Ski. That's why I roll with a buddy with a 40DB that has a lift. I've seen 480MYs with lifts, in fact there is one in my marina.
Engine room is accessed via in the salon sole. Pretty roomy in the ER, but the engines must have been installed before they put the lid on the boat as there is no obvious way to replace the engines without a major structural "cool mod"
 
There isn't anything wrong with that boats looks looking from my lil 280DA:thumbsup:
 
Id assume there's plenty of head room to do major maintenance type work though? So no access via the aft cabin...but i guess the location of the pedestal bed probably would only give you access off centerline if there was a hatch. What's her dry weight?
 
Id assume there's plenty of head room to do major maintenance type work though? So no access via the aft cabin...but i guess the location of the pedestal bed probably would only give you access off centerline if there was a hatch. What's her dry weight?
Dry weight per spec sheet is 38,500. The pedestal bed in the master is actually oriented along the transom, but there is a big built in counter/furniture precluding access to the ER that way. The only access if from above via the salon sole, and yes, there is decent head room in there.
 
I hope it works out for you being the proud owner of one of your sneakers babies. Are heard it all too and here are my answers.

1. It doesn't look like a sneaker from the helm.
2. I took my baby sneaker out into 8 to 10's on Lake Erie where the wave length is less than 4 seconds. I don't want to be in anything bigger anyway.
3. If you put 100 hours a year on your engines and you get 5,000 hours out of those diesels, you probably won't be alive to see the hole cut in the side.

To add a 4th, if you put 100 hours on a boat per season and you are there 1/2 the weekends per year (26), you would have spent 1,248 hours on the boat of which you were running it 8% of the time. Going for comfort ain't that bad.

Good Luck,

Dan
AKA Baby Sneaker
 

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