What Clarion Head Unit is this?

Man up and do the upgrade, it’s not that much work and you will learn a lot about your boat

do what @Wylie_Tunes says

mrsrobinson said:
I talked to a technical person at crutchfield. They suggested returning the five channel amp, and going with the 4-channel kicker amp at 65 watts per channel to get more power going to the 6.5's and a little more power going to the sub, of course using the same configuration as the existing Clarion amp. I like this option because if one day in the future I want to run two more sets of speaker wires to the cockpit, I can use the4 channel amp for the 4 6.5s and get a mono for the sub.
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mrsrobinson said:
With 2 sets of speakers in the boat wired that way, wired together, are they seen by the amp as a singe pair at 2ohm? And basically it's a 3 channel system? @SKybolt I agree with, I prefer 1 channel per speaker. But I never intended to invest this much time in this upgrade, I wanted to do a simple swap. It's not that important to me.
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With the amount of post's you have in as many threads asking what and how to do it, then state you don't want to do the work or spend the money on the upgrade is well ...

Your wasting your time and money to just get a possibly better amp and keep all of the rest.

Do yourself a favor and just wait until you feel like A) spending the money and B) doing the work.

Anything else is a waste of time. JMO, and others on here as well. ...
 
SKybolt said:
With the amount of post's you have in as many threads asking what and how to do it, then state you don't want to do the work or spend the money on the upgrade is well ...

Your wasting your time and money to just get a possibly better amp and keep all of the rest.

Do yourself a favor and just wait until you feel like A) spending the money and B) doing the work.

Anything else is a waste of time. JMO, and others on here as well. ...
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I couldn't have said it any better myself.
 
I don't disagree with any of your honest replies. After spending most of the hot summer in the engine compartment last year chasing down the overheating issue I just don't have it in me this season. My hope was to swap things out with the stereo components, the amps for example, that's not working out to be as simple as I thought it would be unfortunately.
 
Chris-380 said:
Man up and do the upgrade, it’s not that much work and you will learn a lot about your boat

do what @Wylie_Tunes says
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He's not telling me to run new speaker wires though correct? He's stating use the new five channel amp, the sub channel dedicated to the sub, and pairing the 4 6.5s off the two other channels, like the existing amp does right now? Right? That would leave two channels open.
 
Good question, I didn't even pay attention. Lots of distractions in my personal life right now, probably why.
 
SKybolt said:
I'm not a fan of speakers in parallel. For me a system ran that way doesn't doesn't sound as good as with a single speaker to a single channel. I get it's done all of the time, but there always seems to be upper/lower freq. roll off making that zone sound more mid-range then it should.
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No offence, but maybe lead with your opinion of why you dont like speakers in parallel v's indicated to the OP that its going to create an issue for the amp.

The amp he's chosen is perfectly happy with a woofer wired to its dedicated mono woofer chnl and 2 pair of speaker wired only to two chnls. Now, If hes only going to stay with the 2 pair of speakers, I do agree, its most ideal to separate the parallel pairs and run discrete cabling to each speaker and terminate one driver to each chnls. No argument there. With his current configuration, he can ad another pair of speakers in the future.
 
Wylie_Tunes said:
No offence, but maybe lead with your opinion of why you dont like speakers in parallel v's indicated to the OP that its going to create an issue for the amp.

The amp he's chosen is perfectly happy with a woofer wired to its dedicated mono woofer chnl and 2 pair of speaker wired only to two chnls. Now, If hes only going to stay with the 2 pair of speakers, I do agree, its most ideal to separate the parallel pairs and run discrete cabling to each speaker and terminate one driver to each chnls. No argument there. With his current configuration, he can ad another pair of speakers in the future.
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We'll agree to disagree on that one and I did explain why I don't like speakers in parallel. I also think it's bad for a 5 channel amp to only run on 3. Your part that you agree on is why I posted what I did. If you've been following all of these threads and all of the comment's, you would know there isn't going to be any changes for quite a while.
 
SKybolt said:
there isn't going to be any changes for quite a while.
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Ok, that was harsh. Yes, I have asked A LOT of questions and yes it's been a loooong time, but I have tried to change, then realize it's more work (or more complicated work) than I want to do for the return. This has always been a nice to have upgrade for me. If I had multiple sets of capable hands on the boat as well, I may go for it (running new power/negative/speaker wires), but I don't. I did upgrade/replace the sub, so far.
 
mrsrobinson said:
Ok, that was harsh. Yes, I have asked A LOT of questions and yes it's been a loooong time, but I have tried to change, then realize it's more work (or more complicated work) than I want to do for the return. This has always been a nice to have upgrade for me. If I had 4 sets of capable hands on the boat as well, I may go for it (running new power/negative/speaker wires), but I don't. I did upgrade/replace the sub, so far.
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My bad, wasn't meant to be. No one likes to run wires, re-power things etc. even worse to pay someone to do it. But the rewards are oh so sweet when it's done.
 
I talked to two different techs at crutchfield. Both said, independently, the existing Clarion amp is not meant to run the way it's being run at 2 ohms with the kicker 6.5s and that subwoofer. That I should see a lot of benefits from the kicker four channel I've now purchased.
 
mrsrobinson said:
Ok, that was harsh. Yes, I have asked A LOT of questions and yes it's been a loooong time, but I have tried to change, then realize it's more work (or more complicated work) than I want to do for the return. This has always been a nice to have upgrade for me. If I had 4 sets of capable hands on the boat as well, I may go for it (running new power/negative/speaker wires), but I don't. I did upgrade/replace the sub, so far.
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Yeah, just a few.

1. http://www.clubsearay.com/index.php?threads/upgrade-replace-cabin-speakers.113704/

2. http://www.clubsearay.com/index.php...first-head-unit-amplifier-or-speakers.113644/

3. http://www.clubsearay.com/index.php...eels-directional-add-a-2nd-sub-woofer.112820/

4. http://www.clubsearay.com/index.php?threads/head-unit-whine.112545/

5. http://www.clubsearay.com/index.php?threads/amplifier-headroom-does-size-matter.111947/

6. http://www.clubsearay.com/index.php...am-replace-stereo-amp-s-positive-wire.111893/

7. http://www.clubsearay.com/index.php?threads/infinite-baffle-subwoofer-recommendations.111887/

8. http://www.clubsearay.com/index.php...-the-cockpit-subwoofer-or-a-5-channel.111875/

9. http://www.clubsearay.com/index.php?threads/do-i-really-need-a-marine-grade-subwoofer.111797/

10. http://www.clubsearay.com/index.php?threads/what-clarion-head-unit-is-this.111739/

Just sayin, it makes people tired.
 
mrsrobinson said:
You certainly have the option to not read and reply. I think you can unwatch a thread as well, I suggest you try one of the three, since it's so tiring. In addition when I feel a thread has gone off topic I'll start a new one to get back on topic in case others are searching in the future, and find a thread helpful.

And hell if it's so tiring for all of you, why not ask the moderator to delete my threads.

Oh, a private message to me is also another option versus public shaming.

Just sayin...
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Now that was harsh. Ten threads on asking what to do with a stereo when the first few post's of your your first thread answered all of your questions. Then arguing that you don't need all of that etc. Or don't want to do the work. Then instead of conceding to I should just wait until I am ready, you post more threads about the same exact thing.

The real issue here Greg is we/I want to help out as best I can as does everyone else. But this has become the little boy who cried wolf. You did forget one other option, there is also an ignore option as well.
 
I've still got the original amps and speakers in my 18yo boat. All I know about those things is if I drink a few beers, sit in the right spot, it sounds good to me.:cool:
 
Update for those following along at home now or in the future.

I replaced the amp this weekend, fairly easy/straightforward. The time consuming part was replacing all of the ring connectors with fork connectors, since the screws do not come all the way out on the new Kicker amp https://www.crutchfield.com/p_20646CX36T/Kicker-46CXA360-4T.html.

I configured the new Kicker the same as the old Clarion: sub is bridged to 2 channels, 6.5s are in parallel on the other 2 channels. Powered it up and it worked fine.

I had my volt meter and downloaded test tones from Kicker to set the Gain. I realized I can't set the Gain on the sub and the 6.5s separately because of this configuration. The Clarion CMD 6 https://www.crutchfield.com/S-o06LhaWkKo1/p_020CMD6/Clarion-CMD6.html has a Non Fader RCA out on the back (see attached #5 and #6) I think I can use for a dedicated sub going to the new Kicker amp, so I purchased some 12 foot RCA 2 channel patch marine cables https://www.crutchfield.com/p_142R12/EFX-Marine-RCA-Patch-Cables-12-foot.html to try this next time I am on the boat. I plan to plug these into one of the two amp channels on the Kicker amp, the one I have bridged for the sub, then set the gain for the sub and 6.5s separately. Crutchfield support explained it's a 4 channel amp, though it's really 2 2 channel amps. So I think this will work.
 

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