Using a portable generator to run A/C?

Ok, today I learned what a turkey fryer is...and I've just discovered there's an infrared one for our boats! :grin::grin::grin:



Oil-Less Infrared Turkey Fryer

November 26, 2008



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chumbley said:
Personally, I knew when I purchased a boat with a cabin that it would get hot down there. So I made it a point to find a boat with a generator so the AC could keep me cool and the fridge could keep my beer cold.
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Alright! I knew we could get to the beer sooner or later!!:grin:

Mine is in a ice chest filled with ice and cold beer. Who needs a stinking refer!!!:lol:

Glaicer ice in your drink is cool too!!! As a matter of fact, if you are in a glacier bay, just hang the beer over the side!:smt038
 
Only 7 pages, no I'm sure there is more to come(Grin)
 
AKBASSKING said:
Is this thread dead now...........:smt038

It was fun, but I am folding up my lawn/deck chair, bagging my empty beer bottles and going home............:smt089
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jg300da said:
Ummm, wrong.

Doesn't really matter to me, I do not advocate their use on, in, or around a boat under any conditions. Just trying to answer a question brought forth. How many fatalities can be attributed to use of a portable generator used on a boat (externally)? Of all the portable generator threads in recent memory I don't think anyone has come up with any real data to answer this question.

So far just a lot of inane responses about buses and heroin and "what he said!" That's the media for ya...
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way to straddle that fence.
 
Thank goodness that is over. Here's a thought....let's just not reply to portable genny posts?
 
hack4alivin said:
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Now that is the best advice I've heard in a long time!
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Kill it and move on!! :smt021 "You can't fix stupid". Some people will continue to do what they want to do regardless of all of the advice and warning labels that are made available to them. This subject has been beat to death far too many times already. On the other hand, we will probably have to visit this same subject several times a year in order to educate these people who seem to have death wishes that can also affect their dock mates.
 
sfergson727 said:
Speaking of stupid, I think we are really in headed down the wrong path with our school systems and they seem to be putting out a poor product to the extreme. I mean, I was driving around the other day, and in every neighborhood I passed, there was a sign

"SLOW CHILDREN"

We really need to do something before we become a society of morons.
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They'll all use portable generators on their government-provided boats when they get older.
 
sfergson727 said:
Speaking of stupid, I think we are really in headed down the wrong path with our school systems and they seem to be putting out a poor product to the extreme. I mean, I was driving around the other day, and in every neighborhood I passed, there was a sign

"SLOW CHILDREN"

We really need to do something before we become a society of morons.
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I think were almost their.

Advanced test scores- supporters have a low IQ


 
Rick, now don't you start confusing the matter with those facts!
 
fc3 said:
Rick, now don't you start confusing the matter with those facts!
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Sorry, I forgot we were just shooting from the hip, making it up as we go, giving our opinion and otherwise just generally BS'each other.

I'll do better next time!
 
I posted a “challenge” a while back. It was mentioned that this has been done before. Well the reason this exercise gets repeated is that it always works out the same and this group cannot reach a consensus. It is as someone said, similar to politics in its passion. The post is made asking the question, quickly followed by “oh boy”, then discussion degenerating into name calling. That’s where it ends until it is asked again and the cycle repeats.

As I read these posts and re-read past posts as if I were a judge in a court, I do not see the preponderance of the evidence presented by the “your stupid if you do” group. I also do not see that it is risk free or sanctioned by any significant authority.

These generators have been sold in the 100s of thousands as technology and imports have lowered the prices and yet despite this level of use in many situations on and off land few people, proportionate to use, seem to have died from their use. There are clearly some people who have experienced an unfortunate outcome, but no one knows the safety protocols followed. Similar to auto use and risk of death. If there was a wake of carnage I believe the Coast Guard would at least have specific “Portable Generator” advisory notices even if they cannot regulate them.

For those adamantly opposed to their use you are choosing the safest course as there is no risk with no use. Those who believe they can operate them safely with their individual protocols for safely please continue to exercise maximum caution both with onboard and portable generators.

I still do not personally have a conclusion to the question but do not now need the answer, as my boat cannot use either. I plan to never post on this subject again but will watch for any good data that may be presented.

Thanks to all who share their knowledge, experience, time for research, and personal protocols. This sharing may help some who do use these generators to add better safety ideas to their habits making all areas of boating safer.

MM
 
SAFETY ALERT
CARBON MONOXIDE - PORTABLE GENERATORS
The following information is provided by the U.S. Coast Guard's Marine Safety Office (MSO) in Mobile, Alabama.
The MSO is currently investigating two deaths aboard a fishing vessel in Bayou la Batre, Alabama. Preliminary findings indicate that the victims were exposed to deadly levels of carbon monoxide (CO). Although the investigation is not complete, important lessons have been learned.
The carbon monoxide came from the exhaust of a portable generator located in the forward part of the engine room. This generator provided power to the vessel's the air conditioning unit and main deck lighting. The generator's exhaust gases vented directly into the engine room.
Initial inspection of the vessel revealed:
  • improper ventilation in the engine room,
  • exhaust leaks from the main engine exhaust manifold,
  • structural corrosion of the main deck, and
  • open wiring trunks between the engine room and the cabin / wheelhouse.
Inadequate ventilation in the engine room in conjunction with the openings between decks allowed the exhaust from the portable generator to easily enter the cabin area. The victims had ceased fishing, secured the main engine, and retired for the evening. Due to the extreme heat and humidity, the doors to the cabin / wheelhouse were closed and the generator was started to power the portable air conditioning unit. The exhaust from the portable generator quickly filled the engine room with deadly levels of carbon monoxide which in turn seeped through deck openings into the cabin area. Unaware of the dangers, the victims went to sleep.
Carbon monoxide is a colorless and odorless gas produced as a by-product of combustion in diesel and gasoline engines. This toxic gas can accumulate quickly, especially in confined spaces, and has deadly effects on those exposed to it. Proper elimination of exhaust gases is vital in maintaining a safe atmosphere onboard any vessel. The Coast Guard urges mariners to ensure that the exhaust systems of all diesel and gasoline engines are properly vented away from accommodation, working, and recreational areas onboard vessels.

http://www.uscgboating.org/assets/pdf/recalls//BSC86.pdf#BoatingandCO2
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