Underwater Lights

Patents, like any other intellectual property, do require owners to make good faith efforts to maintain them. They can't just allow infringement to occur without putting their ownership at risk.

Fortunately patents expire and eventually the market comes up with a wider range of cost effective solutions.
 
SeaHarley said:
Beware.........

Well it seams that "boater4life" is a bit upset with my new inovative design and installation of water fountain lights.
As he has sent me the following threatening "Private Message".


"Please be advised that Todd Hurley of Hurley Marine, Inc. is the legal owner of this U.S. Patent Pending trim tab light design and that your product, as identified is an infringement on this design.

Please be advised that you may be accessed a royalty fee for each sale of this item from a declaratory judgment action. If you wish to continue to sell this item we will have to agree upon a license agreement.

A formal letter may follow.

Todd Hurley
Hurley Marine, Inc."
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Sounds formal, accurate, and direct, but not threatening. It is appropriate. That's the American way. Find a new variant which does not meet the guidelines of the patent, and run with it.
 
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Originally Posted by charlg
Looks like Ebay has them, and they're $159 (not $59).
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Under...em110217251491

Have you (or anyone else...) purchased these lights and installed them? If so, how do you like them and how well are they holding up? Looking for some decent lights at a good price that wont fall apart or rust/deteriorate...
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I'll be putting mine on in 2 wks. and I boat in fresh water only. :thumbsup: . Edit: I see he raised the price again to $169.00 apair. He's getting too greedy..:smt021
 
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We don't need legal stuff going on behind the scenes on this forum. It is also in bad taste to post the contents of a PM. Any more posts about these "Hurley Style" lights by boaterforlife or seaharley will be deleted. I would like to keep this thread alive but will delete it if this stuff continues.
 
Does anyone on this board know how to connect the underwater lights (swim platform) to the acc1 or acc2 switch on a 2005 280da? Just bought a pair of lights and im trying to hook it up the right way. I think the acc2 is 15amp so it should be fine, just dont want to rip the whole boat apart searching for the right wire in the helm...... would appreciate feed back.

gary
trade wins
2005 280 da
florida
 
trade wins said:
Does anyone on this board know how to connect the underwater lights (swim platform) to the acc1 or acc2 switch on a 2005 280da? Just bought a pair of lights and im trying to hook it up the right way. I think the acc2 is 15amp so it should be fine, just dont want to rip the whole boat apart searching for the right wire in the helm...... would appreciate feed back.

gary
trade wins
2005 280 da
florida
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I did this on my 340. I pulled out the owner's manual and found the electrical schematic which applies to those switches. I learned the color pattern on the wire, and found the wire dead-ended in the bilge on the foward wall in a bundle of wires as indicated on the schematic (see related thread). That was the hot wire. I wired it to the hot wire on the lights. Then, I grounded the lights back to a grounding bus in the same area. Switch on = lights on.
 
Thanks John, did you find the wires on the port side or starboard side of bilge? Did you have to go into the helm to figure out color scheme, trace back to acc1 or acc2 switch?

Thanks Gary
 
I ran new wires all the way from the ACC1 switch back to the lights. I took the power from the fuse block under the Steering wheel. Make sure you use Boat wiring. Don't go to home depot.

John
 
I found them on the stbd side, directly above the stbd transmission. I didn't trace them from the helm, except on paper in the schematics.
 
Thanks again, i bought the Barnegat under swim platform lights, but im planning on mounting them on the transom. I called Barnegat and said it would be fine there.


Gary
 
Here they are running, slowing, and stopped at the dock.

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Cool video John, I keep waiting for Jaws to show up. :)
 
I've seen several types of underwater lights on both new and used boat at our marina. By far the best approach is the lights made of a one piece bronze housing set in the transom. They are servicable from the interior of the transom...I've seen 3, 5 and 7 light applications. Our dealer gets about $650 ea. for the lights so it isn't for the faint of pocketbook. By far the coolest one has blue lights and has 5 on the transom and one on each side of the hull about 2' forward of the transom. Finding that guy at night just ain't a problem.

These light housing do mount like transducers, but don't use just 5200 on a 460DA. Most 46's have coring in almost every place you will mount a light, so be sure you have the core fully glassed in before you saw the final hole for the light. Then you can bed with 5200. Pilot drill for the hole saw first in the center of each light location and you can see if the area is cored.
 
I had three of the Perko bronze underwater "50" lights installed on the transom last winter in our 460DA. The dealer consulted with Sea Ray prior to installation and I obtained the resulting transom laminate samples. Each sample averaged around 25mm thick and there were two baltek? core laminations at 2mm each surrounded by solid 'glass. The core material in the hole was removed and 'glassed or epoxied (I forget). After curing, the lights were embedded with 5200 and tightened into place. The job was well done and the bulbs are accessible from inside as Frank mentioned, if they ever have to be changed.

The lights are a nice addition to the boat, we use them often and I think they are available for about $350@. In fresh water the green filters look great. Although the LED's might perform better, the question is "How much do you want to spend?". I'll post a photo of the transom core if anyone is interested.

James
 
I just listened to my video. I didn't know it had music, or a fish bubbling sound. I was listening to Triumph when I video'd the fish. That music is coming from the boat. The bubble/splash is from a fish.
 
I know it is not a Sea Ray, but check out this guy's custom underwater lighting he did on his 1972 Chris Craft 35' Commander.

Here is a link is the CommanderClub.com page, and pictures and editorial on underwater lighting are at the bottom of this page.

http://www.commanderclub.com/

This link is directly to this guy's photo album:

http://picasaweb.google.com/ggajcak
 
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