Should you buy a gun or not?

In Ct. you must have a pistol permit or get a purchase permit to buy ammunition. We had the most gun manufacturers in the country, now they have all left, even the historic Colt building is empty.
 
El Capitan said:
I believe everyone should own and learn proper use but I wouldn’t purchase nor license in a way that puts me on any federal or state registry.
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Now your house is the first house they are coming to, since they don’t know what arsenal you have. Keep posting Dr.
TimW said:
You gotta remember that he doesn’t have two brain cells to rub together.
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You guys just pushed him into panic mode! “They are coming for my guns - Ahhhhhh”
 
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Dani-Lu said:
Now your house is the first house they are coming to, since they don’t know what arsenal you have. Keep posting Dr.


You guys just pushed him into panic mode! “They are coming for my guns - Ahhhhhh”
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More idiocy from @Dani-Lu. Why don't you just post up all your guns serial numbers since you have nothing to worry about...
 
Dani-Lu said:
Now your house is the first house they are coming to, since they don’t know what arsenal you have. Keep posting Dr.


You guys just pushed him into panic mode! “They are coming for my guns - Ahhhhhh”
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C’mon on over. I want to show you something. :D
 
TheDudeAbides said:
That may or may not be entirely accurate. 60% of households THAT WE KNOW OF don't have guns. Not everyone admits to owning firearms. So that % may actually be lower.
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Yup, ya' never know who's got what. What I'm going to share started 60+ years ago, everyone involved is dead and gone...I think it'll be OK to tell one one them.;) A friend of mine's Dad had one of these in his attic, I saw it in his car trunk the day he brought his new acquisition home. Anyone caught going in the attic to steal a peak would get a ass whoopin'. I think he subscribed to the idea 'better to have it and not need it' than 'need it and not have it'...or maybe it was simply 'go big or go home'.:D
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Woody said:
Yup, ya' never know who's got what. What I'm going to share started 60+ years ago, everyone involved is dead and gone...I think it'll be OK to tell one one them.;) A friend of mine's Dad had one of these in his attic, I saw it in his car trunk the day he brought his new acquisition home. Anyone caught going in the attic to steal a peak would get a ass whoopin'. I think he subscribed to the idea 'better to have it and not need it' than 'need it and not have it'...or maybe it was simply 'go big or go home'.:D
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Looks good to me. Am I missing something? Has no shoulder thingy, no bayonet lug, no fore handle, no high capacity clip, etc.

(I know, magazine, I am posting in anti speak)
 
Woody said:
Yup, ya' never know who's got what. What I'm going to share started 60+ years ago, everyone involved is dead and gone...I think it'll be OK to tell one one them.;) A friend of mine's Dad had one of these in his attic, I saw it in his car trunk the day he brought his new acquisition home. Anyone caught going in the attic to steal a peak would get a ass whoopin'. I think he subscribed to the idea 'better to have it and not need it' than 'need it and not have it'...or maybe it was simply 'go big or go home'.:D
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How about just the fun factor for a reason?!? Or the "just because I want to" reason. Either one works for me.
 
Lots of war trophies floating around out there. I’d figure there are about five times more guns than there are residents in the US. Time doesn’t make them just go away.
 
blaster said:
Lots of war trophies floating around out there. I’d figure there are about five times more guns than there are residents in the US. Time doesn’t make them just go away.
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This one did eventually 'go away'. Reduced to it's pieces it was buried here and there in the woods. RIP Ma Duece.:(
 
Shenanigans77 said:
A gun? As in just one? Cpl holder….. I have everything from a .32 seecamp to a .500 6.5” s&w mag. Several AR’s and my home defense shotty. Shotguns with LE buck still the best home defense weapon out there. Just point it down the hall and shoot….

EDC is a glock 30sf
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I have a seecamp... great gun for the boat... all stainless steel.
 
1. Interarms .44 Magnum 3rd model Virginia Dragoon single action 7.5” barrel, weighs 5 lbs, what they used to call a hog leg. Frickin hand cannon. Use 2 hands, hang on, don’t be scared, will rock you, where ear plugs if you expect to hear in the next week.
2. Ruger Single Six .22, may be the most accurate single action revolver ever made. 7.5” barrel.
Both totally untraceable. One of the great things about Baltimore.
Still looking for a Colt Python.357 Mag with a 2.5 barrel. Hard to find, most were 6”. Taywon and Donte just not coming thru for me these days.
If you notice, i like revolvers. Magazine pistols fire a lot of bullets until they jam, and if you need more than one to stop the situation you need more time at the range.
Pictures of guys with an AR15 slung over their shoulder in a Walmart crack me up.
 
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Pirate Lady said:
If you notice, i like revolvers. Magazine pistols fire a lot of bullets until they jam, and if you need more than one to stop the situation you need more time at the range.
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Revolvers are very reliable but semi-autos can be just as reliable if you buy quality and take care of it. My first handgun was a Jennings Bryco 59 9mm. Cheap junk. Stove-piped about every other round. After that had a Ruger P94, Glock model 22, Glock model 27, and a S&W M&P Shield. Other than the Bryco I have never had a malfunction. My model 22 has had about 3000 rounds through it, the model 27 about 500 and the S&W about 200. Never a malfunction except the ones that we purposely caused in training. The 3 biggest things are buy a good quality brand and 2 keep it cleaned and oiled and 3 use good quality ammo.

As for needing time at the range, agree 100% but when the crap hits the fan things change. You lose fine motor skills when highly stressed. If you ever get the chance to go through a shooting simulator I suggest doing it. This is for anyone. You will be surprised. I was. Your heart rate goes up and palms get sweaty even though you know it is a simulation. During debrief you are asked how many rounds you fire and quite a few had no idea. One scenario I had was a man walking towards me across a parking lot. No words said but at about 20' away he pulls a gun from his waistband. My first shot hit the ground a few feet in front of him and my 2nd hit his knee. The last shot was over his right shoulder but the rest were center mass. There are also no-shoot scenarios. These are interactive and controlled by the operator based on your input. Definitely worth trying if anyone ever gets the chance. I can recall 2 other scenarios that I had in the simulator but those are for another time...lol
 
boatman37 said:
As for needing time at the range, agree 100% but when the crap hits the fan things change. You lose fine motor skills when highly stressed. If you ever get the chance to go through a shooting simulator I suggest doing it. This is for anyone. You will be surprised. I was. Your heart rate goes up and palms get sweaty even though you know it is a simulation. During debrief you are asked how many rounds you fire and quite a few had no idea.
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When the feathers hit the fan and you have lost your fine motor skills is when all those countless hours on the range pay off. That's when you revert to muscle memory.

A large part of proper firearms training is training your mind to react. I can speak to that because I've been there, done that. Everything goes into slow motion, you get tunnel vision, you temporarily lose your hearing and if you've practiced what you need to do to WIN the gunfight, not just be a participant, you will win.
 
boatman37 said:
Revolvers are very reliable but semi-autos can be just as reliable if you buy quality and take care of it. My first handgun was a Jennings Bryco 59 9mm. Cheap junk. Stove-piped about every other round. After that had a Ruger P94, Glock model 22, Glock model 27, and a S&W M&P Shield. Other than the Bryco I have never had a malfunction. My model 22 has had about 3000 rounds through it, the model 27 about 500 and the S&W about 200. Never a malfunction except the ones that we purposely caused in training. The 3 biggest things are buy a good quality brand and 2 keep it cleaned and oiled and 3 use good quality ammo.

As for needing time at the range, agree 100% but when the crap hits the fan things change. You lose fine motor skills when highly stressed. If you ever get the chance to go through a shooting simulator I suggest doing it. This is for anyone. You will be surprised. I was. Your heart rate goes up and palms get sweaty even though you know it is a simulation. During debrief you are asked how many rounds you fire and quite a few had no idea. One scenario I had was a man walking towards me across a parking lot. No words said but at about 20' away he pulls a gun from his waistband. My first shot hit the ground a few feet in front of him and my 2nd hit his knee. The last shot was over his right shoulder but the rest were center mass. There are also no-shoot scenarios. These are interactive and controlled by the operator based on your input. Definitely worth trying if anyone ever gets the chance. I can recall 2 other scenarios that I had in the simulator but those are for another time...lol
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My last two classes at Sig involved scenarios using sim munitions, bullet made from something like air soft pellets in a cartridge case with primer and just enough charge to be realistically loud. The pistol was a slightly modified P320 with a blue paint job on the slide. You wear a coat made from a very tough luggage grade ballistic nylon, a full coverage helmet kind of like a cross between motorcycle and paintball with a guard that protects your throat. The bad guy(s) are dressed up similarly as you. You do feel the impact when you get shot.

We did a one bad guy mugging, a two bad guy mugging where the first guy gets your attention, and a couple involving stationary cars. Logic says don’t try and draw on a guy who has the drop on you because you can’t win. Guess what? They’re right. In my defense the other guy was a Sig instructor and an ex-Seal, so I never really had a chance in that gunfight. But it was very eye opening, the biggest thing realizing that sometimes being armed isn’t always going to help you, and even with heightened awareness under the right conditions you still can be taken by surprise.
 
I posed this question in another thread but more appropriate for this one. For current and former LEOs, what data is out there that supports the idea that owning a gun is more dangerous for the gun owner than the intruder? It seems like a common argument against gun ownership for self-protection is that your gun will get you killed. My thinking has always been, most gun grimes are committed by street thugs or junkies that are using a stolen gun with whatever ammo happened to be loaded. They most likely are not range trained or take the time to go out of town and target practice. Most are just using the gun as a threat and are not wanting to actually fire it during a robbery. The gang thugs shooting one another or the idiot that uses a gun to escalate a road rage incident also is not going to be a sharp shooter. How often do you investigate a case where a home owner or a street crime victim was mortally wounded while attempting to protect themselves with a firearm?
Carpe Diem
 
Henry Boyd said:
We did a one bad guy mugging, a two bad guy mugging where the first guy gets your attention, and a couple involving stationary cars. Logic says don’t try and draw on a guy who has the drop on you because you can’t win. Guess what? They’re right. In my defense the other guy was a Sig instructor and an ex-Seal, so I never really had a chance in that gunfight. But it was very eye opening, the biggest thing realizing that sometimes being armed isn’t always going to help you, and even with heightened awareness under the right conditions you still can be taken by surprise.
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Henry, did they do any training on taking a gun away from a bad guy who is pointing it at you? Even after all these years if I'm confronted by a guy with a gun and he's within 3' of me, that gun is going to be mine. I spent countless hours going over that with the guys I happened to be working with at the time. We figured that's what graveyard shift was for.

It's relatively easy when they get close because (1) they're not expecting it and the element of surprise is awesome and (2) the mechanics of a gun takeaway work in your favor, not his. It would be easy to break his hand when you take the gun if you do it right. :rolleyes: Or if you don't break it, you could at least break a finger or two.
 
Carpediem44DB said:
I posed this question in another thread but more appropriate for this one. For current and former LEOs, what data is out there that supports the idea that owning a gun is more dangerous for the gun owner than the intruder? It seems like a common argument against gun ownership for self-protection is that your gun will get you killed. My thinking has always been, most gun grimes are committed by street thugs or junkies that are using a stolen gun with whatever ammo happened to be loaded. They most likely are not range trained or take the time to go out of town and target practice. Most are just using the gun as a threat and are not wanting to actually fire it during a robbery. The gang thugs shooting one another or the idiot that uses a gun to escalate a road rage incident also is not going to be a sharp shooter. How often do you investigate a case where a home owner or a street crime victim was mortally wounded while attempting to protect themselves with a firearm?
Carpe Diem
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CD, it would be difficult to compile stats on that because (a) the media glorifies it when some thug with a gun robs/beats/shoots a law abiding citizen so they can blast the airways with how bad guns are and (b) you almost never hear about the situation where a gun owner uses a gun to protect himself/his family/others around him.
 
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